Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming
Reply #316 –
In economics you are just fine with them.
That's a presumption of yours… (You do that quite a lot!)
I never was in any science.
That has often seemed obvious…
We simply disagree what the core model of climatology is. For me it's the greenhouse effect.
Have you a reason for such a pronouncement?
But if such a model fails even the simplest of tests -verification- than why would you cling to it so desperately?
(Or do you have a super-secret pseudo-mathematical formula for waving away contrary evidence?)
For you it's predictions of warming.
As usual, with your either-or logic (Syllogistic and the oh-so venerable Venn diagrams…), you've reached a conclusion that you can't verify:
The models (based upon a simplistic understanding of the greenhouse effect) have predicted warming that has not occurred; and, since the models start from a misconception of that "effect", they hinder the science of climatology: They have predicated an outcome that both data and theory mostly don't support…
I take you at your word that you have no science in mind… Except the greenhouse effect itself, as understood by high schoolers! Or perhaps I took you wrong: Do you think it imperative that "the world" drastically reduces its dependence on fossil fuels, because of CO2 "pollution"?
Or perhaps you simply believe some trace gasses in our atmosphere are "magical"…
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@Belfrager: You did read the (skimpy) article, didn't you? "Ultimately," noted [Walt] Meier [,a research scientist at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center's Cryospheric Sciences Lab], "it is an editorial decision as to what to show and how."
Confirms [Rosemary] Wardley [National Geographic's senior GIS cartographer]: "We do not show the minimum extent simply because there is only so much information we can put on the map before it becomes confusing to the user."
(your source, Bel…)
Perhaps confusing the "user" was the point?
At any rate (so far demonstrable — pun intended!), 2012 was the end! Why bother with more data?
Oh, wait: That was the Mayan apocalypse… It's difficult to keep some of these doomsday scenarios separate!
But as they say: "Any storm out of port…" (That's not right, is it? ) But a "sailor" must have his sea stories to tell! Else how's 'e gonna cadge drinks?