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Topic: What's going on in Benelux? (Read 44880 times)

Re: What's going on in Benelux?

Reply #100
Mearsheimer is "favourite" with the far left (not having read him, but loving Putin), the far right (pretty much the same), and it seems Elon Musk.

Incidentally, GoogleTube is pushing this one hard for the moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA-tCQJEzqk



Re: What's going on in Benelux?

Reply #103
Big pogrom between Ajax and Tel Aviv football fans in Amsterdam last night.

- dozens injured
- 62 arrests
- 5 in hospital

Netanyahu says it was Kristallnacht.

(And Ajax won 5-0, if you are interested in that.)


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Reply #105
Wilders and not somebody across the divide? Both did it and there's a race going on who can do it louder. Here's an article from The Atlantic, both a hot-take insta-reaction and historico-contextualising at the same time.
[Ajax] fans—blond-haired men with beer guts, boys with blue eyes—sing “Hava Nagila” as they cram into the trams taking them to the stadium on the fringes of Amsterdam. Ajax fans tattoo the Star of David onto their forearms. In the moments before the opening kick of a match, they proudly shout at the top of their lungs, “Jews, Jews, Jews,” because—though most of them are not Jewish—philo-Semitism is part of their identity.

Last night, the club that describes itself as Jewish played against a club of actual Jews, Maccabi Tel Aviv. As Israeli fans left the stadium, after their club suffered a thumping defeat, they were ambushed by well-organized groups of thugs, in what the mayor of Amsterdam described as “anti-Semitic hit-and-run squads.” What followed was a textbook example of a pogrom...

There's more from where that came from.
...a swath of the press—and an even larger swath of social media—has minimized the assault, sometimes unintentionally. Some headlines described the anti-Semitic nature of the assaults in quotation marks, despite all the conclusive evidence about the motive of the mob. Because some of the Israeli fans ripped Palestinian flags off buildings and chanted bigoted slogans, it was implied, the mob was justified in stabbing and beating Jews. Such widespread ambivalence over the attack reflects a culture that shrugs in the face of anti-Jewish violence, which treats it as an unavoidable facet of life after October 7.

But the most bitter fact of all is that these assaults transpired the same evening that the Dutch commemorated the 86th anniversary of Kristallnacht. In the presence of actual Jews, the Dutch failed them again.

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Reply #106
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“Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the gas.”
This is weirdly incorrect. The opposing hooligan phrase is all Jews.

Re: What's going on in Benelux?

Reply #107
Wilders posted this at 6:03. It doesn't seem that anybody used the word pogrom prior to that.
A pogrom in the streets of #Amsterdam.

We have become the Gaza of Europe.

Muslims with Palestinian flags hunting down Jews.

I will NOT accept that. NEVER.

The authorities will be held accountable for their failure to protect the Israeli citizens.

Never again.
6:03 AM · Nov 8, 2024

At 7:23 the word was then also used by Isaac Herzog.
https://x.com/Isaac_Herzog/status/1854771676891791407

Re: What's going on in Benelux?

Reply #108
Don’t eat your Christmas tree, Belgians warned, after city posts food tips
The unusual message came after the city of Ghent, an environmentalist stronghold in the country’s northern Flanders region, raised eyebrows by posting tips for recycling the conifers on the dinner table.

Pointing with enthusiasm to examples from Scandinavia, the town website suggested needles could be stripped, blanched and dried – for use in making flavoured butter, for instance.

Asked what they thought of the idea, the reply from Belgium’s federal agency for food chain security, AFSCA, was a resounding “No”.

“Christmas trees are not destined to enter the food chain,” it said in a statement.
This leaves the impression that in Scandinavia it is normal to eat Christmas trees, while in Benelux there is still some work to be done to sway the public towards more ecological behaviour.

In other news, Kim Jong-un banned hot dogs and this is no small matter. In North Korea, hot dogs are considered treasonous and you will get a life sentence for eating or selling or serving them. There's some background to this:
As part of the regime’s efforts to quash capitalist culture among citizens, it has forbidden the sale of budae-jjigae – a dish imported from pro-Western neighbor South Korea.

It [budae-jjigae] was born from meats discarded by US soldiers based in the region during the Korean War of the 1950s, with hungry locals using the items to create stews.

Re: What's going on in Benelux?

Reply #109
This leaves the impression that in Scandinavia it is normal to eat Christmas trees, while in Benelux there is still some work to be done to sway the public towards more ecological behaviour.
One of 'em that we planted over 20 years ago is very, very big now. :)

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2025/01/07/je-kerstboom-opeten-dat-doe-je-toch-maar-beter-niet-zegt-het-v/


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Reply #111
Yes, all of Belgium (or really all of the world) used to be completely accessible by tram, but the regional tram lines have mostly disappeared. In Belgium and the Netherlands specifically most of the rails were stolen by the Germans to aid with the war effort in the east,[1] so after the war the replacement buses were considered close enough while rolling out the red carpet for King Car.

Wikipedia also has a map of the situation as it was in 1940.
From which to some extent they were taken by the Russians in turn, so there's a small chance you might still have some of those rails in operation in Estonia. I suspect it's more likely to simply be overgrown and forgotten in Poland though.

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Reply #112
Oh, so for you narrow gauge railway is the same thing as tram.
...there's a small chance you might still have some of those rails in operation in Estonia...
Unlikely, because Estonia had its own dense network of narrow gauge railways. Not nearly as dense as in Belgium, but still about the same, I think, when adjusted for population density. The network was built up mainly for industrial factory and forestry needs (i.e. more often for cargo than passengers) since 1880s; Tallinn tram is from 1888.

In interwar time the network expanded both for industrial and passenger use, because the first republic took the development of countryside seriously, nationalised the railways and expanded them. There's a town near my birthtown that was born out of the slum for workers who dug up peat moss in 1920s. The peat moss was carried from the bog on the local narrow gauge railway (the tracks were adjusted over time as needed) to the local power station (powered by the same moss, powering the railway machinery, and providing heat and electricity to the slum).

In interwar times the network was dense enough so that during WWII Estonia's railways were subject to looting rather than the stash of stuff looted from elsewhere. By the latter half of 1960s Estonia's soil had dried up so much that bogs became accessible to land machinery and such railways were all dismantled.