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Energy of a Life

anyone have ideas , How is the Shape of Energy of Life  in some organism   --> Human , plant , animal, microorganism , Alien  ,  etc 

What make that kind of energy  so special until can make some  Matters to be Alive  ?

and how is exactly that stuff work ?

Re: Energy of a Life

Reply #1 –
I don't understand OP, but here's some knowledge for you:

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Reply #2 –
unfortunally.. that kind of trollo .. argumentum ad hominem aint work... 



probably it need a more simpler description.


everything is matter, except energy.


you are a matter, that live bc there are kind of energy that keep your matters stay alive.

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Quote from: Sparta on
and how is exactly that stuff work ?


Science hasn't put it altogether yet, but they're working on it.  The Earth is about 4.54 billion years old and life began at least 3.7 billion years ago in the form of nano-scale biogenic graphite.  Doesn't sound too exciting, but you gotta start somewhere.   :knight:  :cheers:
James J

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Reply #4 –
indeed ,  Sir !

btw...
i also heard if carbon loves bonding .

that almost makes a sense , about why all organism in this world are carbon based.

because perhaps some carbon , or probably Carbon in the Nano size   bond with some Energy , then somehow   miracely -  it alive .   :D   8)   :cheers:  :drunk:

but not that  the point ... 

i was questioning about the shape of that energy .

The shape of Energy that bond in the carbon based life.

is it round, circle , triangle ,  move like the light energy , like electromagnetism ?
exist   inthe 3rd dimension , 4th , or 5th , or another ?

is it measurable ?  producable ?   :monkey:

... creatable ?  :insane:

 

Re: Energy of a Life

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And Baru in here  , it mean   New .
is that logic?   labelling some one  an idiot just bc do not know if Baru mean is New ?
IMHO, that kind of Red herring is good,   but only if in satirical purpose ..

also  some  energy probably  doesnt have any shape ..
but some energy will shaped  like this




Sir , i was pointing the pattern , shape or nature of ( Energy ) that have capacity to perform a life .
those which give some carbon a life , even in the micro or nano size .

not phenomenas of   electrical , thermal , kinetic , mechanical , light ,   sound ,   chemical , or another energies  in the Carbon based life .




Quote from: Belfrager
resilient

hmm..




allow me to ilustrate that .
when some Alive carbon , shaped Square Die .
that unknown Energy splited from that carbon .
then  back to the original Shape , let say the original shape is round .

so some of that trait  is - resilient .

not sure if legit , or exactly same with in your mind ..

:drunk:


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Reply #8 –
Energy is of the shape of wobbly goo. Life energy is so freaky wobbly that it looks steady for those who cannot keep up.

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Reply #9 –
Nice.

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Reply #10 –
@Barulheira: :)
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Sparta's question was answered long ago…

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Sir , i was pointing the pattern , shape or nature of ( Energy ) that have capacity to perform a life .


It is in the shape of a double helix, of course.  It is in every living cell of every living thing on this planet and probably on other planets with life.  The components of DNA have now been confirmed to exist in extraterrestrial meteorites, but DNA itself would not survive traveling through the radiated universe, so it likely developed purely by chance here on Earth.   :knight:  :cheers:

http://www.hawking.org.uk/life-in-the-universe.html
James J

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Reply #14 –
@Sparta: I believe what you're looking for is confirmation of Vitalism… Science won't give you that — no matter how long you'd wait! :)
But back up a bit, to a less intellectual and more common-sense standpoint: When you say energy you're conflating at least two meanings (and metaphorically, to boot!)…

My advice? If your idea doesn't refer to fuel, don't use the term energy.
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I see no one has squeezed a topic out of this batshit yet. :surprised: /s

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Quote from: OakdaleFTL
doesn't refer to fuel, don't use the term energy.


mechanical energy  , kinetic energy , etc are not even fuels  ...  at least for now  :left:
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/04/scientists-discover-how-to-generate-solar-power-in-the-dark/360679/


i fully aware , about if there are some chances of White or black fallacy .

but...
only there are two kinds in this universe , matter and energy .

if a matter such a carbon  can alive , then it must be caused by energy .
not matter .

a matter can give matter a life ?
i guess no ..  :coffee:

the Question  is Simply = What Energy ?


Quote from:  jseaton2311

There is no time, to wait for Darwinian evolution, to make us more intelligent, and better natured. But we are now entering a new phase, of what might be called, self designed evolution, in which we will be able to change and improve our DNA


is this related to something like this one ?

http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2014/05/D1-Tucker-military-building-brain-chips-treat-ptsd/85360/


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But some people won't be able to resist the temptation, to improve human characteristics, such as size of memory, resistance to disease, and length of life  :drunk:

i never read Mr. hawking's books or reviews until today , but it seems he and i have similar thoughts

:yes:
Flipped Logic , Lobotomy - Human Mind  Evolution

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In the theory of relativity, if one can travel faster than light, one can also travel back in time


some fabulous sollutions from sir hawking ..   :hat:
once we can travel faster than light , we can back to the past to check how  such a carbon can have a life.
and do some sh*t of course   , for Science Purpose  :sherlock:

well ...
the problems   ;
Our brain is simply just too small , to understanding , to intelligence , nor Create  all of that Star-trek techies  .  :beard:

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Reply #17 –
Quote from: Sparta on
if a matter such a carbon  can alive , then it must be caused by energy .
not matter .

Try to run ten thousand volts in a dead cow body and see if "carbon" gets alive.
When the cow starts moo you let me know.

The vital principle has many names but Oakdale told you the truth, you will not find it in science.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #18 –
Quote from: Sparta on
only there are two kinds in this universe , matter and energy .


Matter is energy. I figured our local physics 'expert' would of shut this down by now.

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Reply #19 –
pardon my ignorance ..

but , isn't that a half truth ?


Matter is energy 

it seems not every matter is energy .
if it mean Photons , Photons is Stuff , and Energy is not Stuff .

Matter =  anything that has mass.
Energy =  the ability to do work



Matter and  Energy used to found together .
but correlation does not imply causation .




and please tell me more about  Heat  or another energies have masses  ? 

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Reply #21 –
 
yes ,  that is mass - energy equivalence .

E= m.c(2)
but not work  for something that has no mass

E = 0 x 299 792 458   (2) --> 0
E= 0  


so that Equation  will say some energy like:
light Energy or Heat Energy   = Zero ,  empty  , there is no energy , you have no power in here .
:doh:







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Reply #22 –
You should really read that article. There is no such thing as "zero energy thing". Massless particles have something to say about it.

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Reply #23 –
Quote from: Sparta on
if it mean Photons , Photons is Stuff , and Energy is not Stuff .


Quantum mechanics states that light can be viewed as a collection of "particles"--photons.  Photons cannot be brought to rest, and so the idea of rest mass doesn't really apply to them, therefore it is convenient for physics to consider them to have zero rest mass.  However, an upper limit to the mass of a photon has been established by observation and improved upon by experimentation to be 7 × 10−17 eV of energy.  Since M=eV/c2, a photon's mass is <1×10−18eV/c2 or 1.07×10−27 atomic mass units.   1 atomic mass unit equals 1.66053892 × 10-27 kilograms, making the mass of a photon <1.67 x 10-54 kg.   :knight:  :cheers:
James J

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Reply #24 –
But lively! :)
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