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The Epstein Files
I expect my interest in such is odd, compared to most.

What I want to know is not the salacious details or the names of celebrities... What I most want to know is which law-enforcement officers and politicians coerced or were complicit in covering up proven crimes...
And why their actions were not seen, investigated and prosecuted.

Any comments?
  • Last Edit: 2025-03-05, 14:40:36 by OakdaleFTL
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Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #25 –
Sam Harris is in the Epstein files. Not in a depraved way like Lawrence Krauss or Richard Dawkins, but the wrongness of his perception on the Epstein saga is revealing enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdNVfUGU_tQ

Of the entire New Atheist gang, Sam Harris was always the most far-right extremist one politically, openly pro-W and genocidally Islamophobic. This warps his perception of Trump. He thinks Trump is politically incoherent and ludicrously psychopathic, which in Harris's mind is so damning that he cannot imagine adding sexual perversions à la Epstein to it. After all, Trump is the president, and Americans would not vote for a totally-totally sick and pervert guy, right? The American "system" would not allow for it...

Except that the "system" allows for it just fine. In addition to his warped picture of politics, Harris is here exercising his defective character judgement. The corrective to the character judgement would be a more thorough familiarity with the factual extent that Epstein and Trump were close friends + business partners + the exact business they were in + how their private lives were inseparable from their business.

Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #26 –
Quote from: ersi – on
Of the entire New Atheist gang, Sam Harris was always the most far-right extremist one politically, openly pro-W and genocidally Islamophobic.
As such the shady dealings surrounding for example Israel, Russia, and Syria that are in there could also play a role.

Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #27 –
Quote from: Frenzie – on
Quote from: ersi – on
Of the entire New Atheist gang, Sam Harris was always the most far-right extremist one politically, openly pro-W and genocidally Islamophobic.
As such the shady dealings surrounding for example Israel, Russia, and Syria that are in there could also play a role.
No. Sam Harris's islamophobia was singularly informed by 9/11. He may have marginally updated his knowledge by now and maybe even introduced some nuance lately, but this was not the case even ten years ago.

This article scratches the surface somewhat.

Note: The heading "How the New Atheists merged with the far right" is wrong and the contents of the article do not bear it out. On my view, New Atheists are either politically quiet or very close to mainstream political establishment position. Harris is a meanstreamist. A "Muslim ban" and such views are perfectly mainstream in USA, not necessarily connected to Trumpism. As to misogyny and institutional grifting - and Epstein was institutionally embraced and embedded -, the article is spot on. Edit: The subheading "What once seemed like a bracing intellectual movement has degenerated into a pack of abusive, small-minded bigots" conveys the spirit of the article. Of course, I thought of New Atheism as small-minded bigotry since the moment they emerged.

On this forum we have also this foray into international relations by Sam Harris with Noam Chomsky. Sam Harris general view is very clear: When "we" attack, it's justified; when "they" do it, it is unjustified, no matter how they try to justify it. This view or sentiment was always mainstream in USA, W put it on steroids after 9/11 and Harris was 100% on board with it.