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The Epstein Files

I expect my interest in such is odd, compared to most.

What I want to know is not the salacious details or the names of celebrities... What I most want to know is which law-enforcement officers and politicians coerced or were complicit in covering up proven crimes...
And why their actions were not seen, investigated and prosecuted.

Any comments?
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Re: The Epstein Fo;es

Reply #1 –
For a rabid Trump devotee and apologist, it's shocking how little you know about him. Trump's most recent move wrt Epstein saga was to re-release some files that had already been public, except Trump removed archive references and applied more redactive sharpie.

Since you are an absolute doofus, let's spell it out for you: Trump is the one doing the cover-up.

Re: The Epstein Fo;es

Reply #2 –
Quote from: OakdaleFTL – on
I expect my interest in such is odd, compared to most.
I hadn't expected ersi to be the first to reply — or even to reply at all! But apparently he's such a Drama Queen, he couldn't resist...[1]

Does anyone else have anything to say?
1 But please note: I gave him an obvious avenue to berate me... But he's so obsessed with his bizarre form of TDS that he can''t see straight! :) Or read... (But that's not actually a new problem for him.)↵
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"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman
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Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #3 –
I was the only one to assume that you were actually interested. Others won't make the same mistake. You can stop pretending now.

Everybody knows all about Epstein files and reasons why Trump is covering them up. Good to know that you know nothing. And even better to know that you don't care.

To be productive and constructive, I suggest you make a summary of Trump's speech before Congress. I am particularly interested for you to back up his list of supposed government waste in that speech with evidence, an alleged accountant with alleged credentials as you claim to be.

Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #4 –
Quote from: ersi – on
Everybody knows all about Epstein files and reasons why Trump is covering them up.
What a strange world you live in...

Now that a whistle-blower has intervened and disclosed the location (in the Southern District of New York...of course) of the files that weren't given to the AG as she ordered, they are being prepared for general release...
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"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman
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Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #6 –
The files from the Southern District of New York were delivered on Friday...

Quote from: ersi – on
At least it's good it isn't the FSB plant whistle-blower as in the attempts to impeach Biden  :lol:
Yeah. "Smirnov, a dual US-Israeli citizen, had been an FBI informant for more than a decade [...]" The FBI has been known to do that...
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Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #7 –
Quote from: OakdaleFTL – on
The files from the Southern District of New York were delivered on Friday...
Oh, so you are merely catching up with old events, poor dude. Very very poor sad sorry dude, miserable failure doofus.

The whistle-blower (who was a fake whistle-blower who appeared only in fake media and was wisely ignored by real media) showed up before this. I can now deduce what his planned role was.

The whistle-blower's task was to stir up some excitement around the release of the files so that the target audience would think that the release would be a real revelation. It was not, but Oakdalean redneck Trump-deranged cultists were successfully duped.

I recommend that you dump RT and other propaganda.

Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #8 –
Quote from: ersi – on
I recommend that you dump RT and other propaganda.
Actually, you're the only one I know who reads and pays attention to them.

I should have realized that this thread was prematurely launched, and that only those who already (and always) know everything would reply...

What's your explanation for the Southern District of New York having and witholding files of the Epstein investigation?
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Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #9 –
Quote from: OakdaleFTL – on
What's your explanation for the Southern District of New York having and witholding files of the Epstein investigation?
Didn't you just say the files were released? :lol:

If I personally were Southern District of New York, I would definitely refrain from releasing them to Donald Trump or his administration. Why? He is an interested party in the case, not to say one of the main suspects :)

Here's a good status overview https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/jeffrey-epstein-files-delivered-pam-bondi/ (Hint: search for "Trump")

Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #10 –
Quote from: ersi – on
If I personally were Southern District of New York, I would definitely refrain from releasing them to Donald Trump or his administration.
Yes: Petty functionaries run the government and should be honored! :)
Because you -like many still in my government- are partisan hacks — who think you are in control of everything (including the news) and that losing an election only means you have to use subversive means to defeat the will of the people. (That's our Democrats' view of democracy... :) )
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Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #11 –
The status of Epstein files is of course I told you so. Pam Bondi set herself a deadline for yesterday but missed it totally, just like Trump the day-1 and 24-hour man.

Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #12 –
And now FBI and DOJ (i.e. Kash Patel and Pam Bondi) say in a joint memo that not only is Trump not implicated in any way, there is no client list at all (contrary to statements in February when the client list was on Bondi's desk and she was ready to release it, and contrary to known contents of Epstein's notebooks and Lolita Express flight logs).

- There is no client list, no names or further documents to release
- Epstein killed himself by himself all alone
- Be happy that Ghislaine Maxwell is locked up
- Nobody else and nothing else is going to be investigated

DOJ, FBI review finds no Jeffrey Epstein 'client list,' confirms suicide https://abcnews.go.com/US/doj-fbi-review-finds-jeffrey-epstein-client-list/story?id=123526125

Quote from: OakdaleFTL – on
What I want to know is not the salacious details or the names of celebrities... What I most want to know is which law-enforcement officers and politicians coerced or were complicit in covering up proven crimes...
And why their actions were not seen, investigated and prosecuted.

Any comments?
Indeed, any comments?

Edit: This guy has watched through the "raw" 11-hour footage of Epstein's prison so you don't have to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKFTeXukqBw

Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #13 –
WSJ wrote a bit about the letter Trump had written to Epstein's 50th birthday. To be fair, it was Ghislaine Maxwell's idea to gather letters from friends to a single book as a gift for Epstein. Alan Dershowitz was also among those friends who wrote a letter. So this matter comes down to: Who hasn't written a letter to Epstein?

Then there's the Epstein List: Full list of names revealed in unsealed court records. This is a collection of names from the court records, not from Epstein's notebook and flight logs. It is certainly not a list of rapists identified from Epstein's photo&video collection.

Edit: Trump's impressions of Epstein from yesterday, "He has been dead for a long while now. He was never a big factor in terms of life."

Edit2: And Trump actually sued WSJ, and Murdoch personally, for facts,
Quote from: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/07/18/trump-sues-wsj-rupert-murdoch-slander/85282651007/
Donald Trump is seeking $10 billion in damages in a lawsuit against the Wall Street Journal, its parent company, owner and two reporters claiming libel and slander for publishing an article saying the future president wrote a lewd letter to Jeffrey Epstein for his 50th birthday.
Trump wrote the letter. Trump did the doodle. He has done more doodles, gifted to friends, and framed some doodles and put on auction. The lawsuit ensures that the topic won't die. In a lawsuit it is bound to come out that Trump was not just close to Epstein - Trump was a version of Epstein preying on and pimping the contestants of his beauty pageants.

What could be Trump's rationale with this lawsuit? I think he is putting his thesis "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"  to test. The lawsuit will lay bare that Trump is a wealthy unaccountable pedo and rapist (yet again) and his cultish followers will have to demonstrate their ability to do (yet again) what they have done thus far - stay faithful to the Orange God-King.

Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #14 –
Somebody found evidence that Ghislaine Maxwell is a sex offender. It looks as follows:



This is a snippet from Ghislaine Maxwell's prison file. She is right now in this prison https://www.bop.gov/locations/institutions/bry/

It's the same prison where Elizabeth Holmes, the Theranos visionary resides. It's a minimum security prison: You get your bed and breakfast there and otherwise you can roam free and do whatever you want. For example Elizabeth Holmes has set up a followup to Theranos during her spare time.

Here's the relevant bit of Ghislaine's prison file that says that she walks free like Epstein.
Quote from: https://www.muellershewrote.com/p/exclusive-i-have-ghislaine-maxwells


What stands out here is the custody level “OUT”, which allows her to leave the minimum security campus for work assignments; much like Jeffrey Epstein was allowed to leave prison as part of the sweetheart deal he got from Alex Acosta that was penned by Alan Dershowitz.
This is what Trump has given to Ghislaine Maxwell for now.

Otherwise Maxwell is as dangerous to Trump as Epstein was so his plan for her is for her to go away quietly. My guess is that Trump will give Alaska to Putin, so that everybody will get furious and shocked about it, entirely forget about Epstein files and nobody will notice when Trump kills off Ghislaine on the side.

Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #15 –
Quote from: ersi – on
My guess is that Trump will give Alaska to Putin, so that everybody will get furious and shocked about it, entirely forget about Epstein files and nobody will notice when Trump kills off Ghislaine on the side.
He did just call it Russia after all…  :lol:

Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #17 –
Enjoy Howard Lutnick's (Trump's Secy of Commerce 2025) interview with New York Post's Miranda Devine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8_s4Z2TQAE

Even though this outlet is Rupert Murdoch's irresponsibly pro-Trump drivel tabloid, right up front Lutnick is lured into the trap of talking about his life as Epstein's neighbour. Lutnick, morally oblivious as he is, divulges that he was instantly invited in by Epstein, as soon as they became neighbours.

Already in the second minute, Lutnick mentions Epstein's massage room and makes a transparent pretension of how Epstein is gross and the most disgusting person ever. This suspiciously departs from Trump's assessment of Epstein as "fun to be with" and raises the question how Lutnick bears to hang around Trump.

3 min 35 sec -
Miranda Devine, "So how come Bill Gates and all these other people could hang around him and not see what you saw? Or did they see it and ignore it or...?"

Howard Lutnick, "No, they participated in it."

Miranda Devine, "Right..."

You don't have to imagine Donald Trump's name in place of Bill Gates's - you know it's there. And it would make the interviewer's question more apt, not less.

This interview is a seismic Prince Andrew magnitude PR disaster for Lutnick - and for Trump. Watch it before it's deleted.

Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #18 –
Here's a weird one
Quote from: Ted Cruz (R-Texas)
How about we all come together and say, "Let's stop murders"? How about we all come together and say, "Let's stop rapes"? How about we all come together and say, "Let's stop attacking pedophiles"?

See it for yourself on video at 02:09:45 (thanks to recorded congressional hearings) https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/committee-activity/hearings/blue-city-chaos-and-tragedy-how-the-trump-administration-is-addressing-the-human-cost-of-soft-on-crime-policies

Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #19 –
Quite an amusing error, even if clearly he meant to say something else. :)

Re: The Epstein Files

Reply #20 –
The Epstein files are:
- Black notebook of contacts (available)
- Lolita Express flight logs (available)
- Emails (partially released)
- Photo and video collection (mostly not released)
- Bank account transaction history (not released)

Edit: Oh, and the little birthday album.