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Topic: Money dumped in vast amounts for space? (Read 15915 times)

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Reply #51
Imagine preparing for all 344 and then it fails because of something dumb like log4j running on the release mechanism for some reason.

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Reply #52
According to NASA, China is starting a war in space.

“What do you think is happening on the Chinese space station?” Nelson said, referring to China’s Tiangong space station. “They learn there how to destroy other people’s satellites.”

The first pieces of the Tiangong space station were launched into orbit in April of last year, and the rest of the station remains under construction, with the next component section scheduled to launch on July 23, according to Space News.

Nelson is not the first U.S. official to warn of Chinese plans to develop weapons to destroy the satellites of other nations. In April, the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) described various potential Chinese space-based weapons including the Shijian-17 satellite, which is equipped with a robotic arm the agency believes could be used to grab and damage other satellites.

China has claimed systems like the Shijian-17 satellite are to be used to help clean up space debris and denied the systems will be weaponized.

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Reply #53
Russia's Luna-25 has smashed into the moon

MOSCOW, Aug 20 (Reuters) - Russia’s Luna-25 space craft has crashed into the moon after it spun into uncontrolled orbit, Russia’s space corporation Roskosmos said on Sunday.

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Reply #54
It could happen to anyone, though in context one would suspect too much pressure, too little time and too little budget.

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Reply #55
Yes, they were in a hurry. Russians were competing with India. India's probe launched earlier, but is on a longer trajectory. India's probe is now lowering itself towards the moon and in a few days we'll see whether it lands or lands to pieces.

ISRO is bidding to make a successful soft landing on the moon, which will make India the fourth country in the world to achieve the feat after the United States, Russia and China.

"Chandrayaan-3 is set to land on the moon on August 23, 2023, around 18:04 Hrs. IST. Thanks for the wishes and positivity! Let's continue experiencing the journey together," ISRO announced on X (formerly Twitter).

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Reply #58
If they make a successful sun landing, that would be the first.


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Reply #60
This time Elon Musk organised probably the biggest rocket explosion ever. I don't see him get enough credit for it.

Footnote: "Rapid unscheduled disassembly" is a euphemism for explosion Spacex invented at an earlier occasion. The euphemism seems to have caught on.

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Reply #61
There's some urge to celebrate 25 years of ISS just before it will be relegated into space junk. In some people's minds, the space station has served as an indication that cooperation with Russia is possible. I'd say it is more of an indication that Russians can restrain themselves in landmark situations of cosmic proportions. However, they still interpret those situations their own way, different from what anyone else might think.

Not too long ago Russians also managed to put out a real space movie, the world's first feature film shot in space, to go along with their other space successes, such as first satellite in space and first man in space. I have not seen it.

Instead I have seen the very anti-space space movie Gravity with Sandra Bullock. The main message: Space is deadly dangerous. You're lucky if you get back alive. Excellent 3D effects though, worth seeing in 3D.

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Reply #62
Ironically, the Russians are the only ones who are welcome everywhere in space.

The US vetoed having the Chinese on the ISS, so they built their own treehouse in space, Tiangong 天宫 (Sky/Heaven Palace), where the Russians are welcome, and nobody else. Wikipedia has nice schematics.

Bit different from the Space Station 5 of 2001.

Anyway, the Russians have talked about having a treehouse of their own, as has India. Neither seem likely to get off the ground soon, but my money would be on India. So when the Space Cow ends about 2030, there will be no obvious successor. There would be a mini-ISS around the Moon, and possibly some commercial moneybag tourist refreshing station. But nothing ISS+ size this side of 2050. 

Payload costs go down, so it is certainly feasible if someone has enough billions burning in their pockets.