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Reply #75
Did passingly muse that you may be a well educated ex-colonist but i ponder on that. Ulster is not going anywhere and i would also inform you that a number of years ago the Irish republic withdrew from it's constitution any claim on the "5 Counties." You could also have come out with that stuff of Scotland leaving the UK at the last vote on it and even with all the guff did not happen. Scotland not in Gt Britain would be a catastrophe as it would lose the annual subsidy via the Barnett Formula and indeed this year an extra sum passed up to Scotland. Nationalists messed up the police by merging all into one force and created a massive debt. The National Health suffered under them as did education. Regarding Boris Johnston he has an eccentric side but I would remind you that he stormed into office and the Labour Party got it's worst result since before the 2nd World War. That included scrubbing Labour's working class position in North England. Passingly amusing a Yank yakking on here when you consider your country's failing internally as well as internationally. You can waffle nonsensical stances but it shows you ignore America's internal history as well as wanting to fight wars all the time. You might have been well educated but  vague of using the grey cells properly!
All of this rabbiting on and no substance. You don’t seem to understand some things.

1. I wasn’t referring to RoI claiming N. Ireland. I was referring to the fact that the self-inflicted wound, Brexit, is going to drive N. Ireland into the RoI’s arms. Thus re-uniting Ireland after G. Britain meddled in Ireland’s domestic affairs for hundreds of years.

2. The self-inflicted wound will also drive Scotland out of rUK and into Brussel’s arms again. Barnett formula or no.

3. I do not disagree on the shape of modern Labour. It’s an absolute catastrophe. I keep up with several friends from the UK and a little more than half are (former) Labour and the rest Tories. Labour needs to either clean house or make a manifesto fit for the working class and not the elites.

https://youtu.be/RouB8iUQzTA

4. Yes. I can offer commentary on a topic I actively keep up with and know about. We, the US, are your only hope of keeping an old and excellent country together. We shall have to subsidize you all a lot, but so long as you respect the Irish and the Good Friday decision, we’ll offer the UK the trade deal they so desperately want.

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Reply #76
Well, Colonel! It seems that you are indeed smitten! (Again...:) Are you still enamored with the Lost Cause?) GB (can I call it "George Bernard?!) -merrie olde England, etc., is a beautiful country, and home to wonderful people; I agree, and I too think it worth saving -- again :)! (Throw in Wales and Scotland; Ireland will take care of itself. :)) Remind me if you'd like to read (portions...?) of my uncle's memoir, “Bad Night at the Occidental”. He takes the family back to before the New World...

But we have important stuff to deal with in the here-and-now.
Have you contemplated the trajectory of our politics? I'd ask you to read David Cole's "The Curse of Aaron"? There are few serious thinkers who aren't afraid to write with clarity and cogency...

(If I remember correctly, it was you who chided me for reading Taki's Mag... "An actual fascist...!" I think you said. :) Are you still of the same opinion? -Taki's youth in Greece, what with WW II and everything, is not so very hard to understand.)
You have, I hope, finally realized what a boon Lincoln gave us: By refusing to hobble the south and treat its leaders as the laws of war required, he did an amazing thing: He preserved the union -- as best anyone could.
And then some fool of an actor shot him...
Reconstruction work out well for anyone, without Lincoln's steady hand and stout heart to guide our nation back?! (You know the answer; perhaps you've grown beyond fairy tales...) If only Frederic Douglas's advice had been followed...we might not have the makings of another real insurrection, with our black population presumed to be willing cannon fodder.)

Have I given you enough to chew on, Colonel? :)
I'll only add, you do have a regiment, don't you?:)! (Let's see Howie try to pry into this aspect of the topic...:)
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Reply #77
2. When Scotland leaves what will soon be known as "rump UK, 'rUK' for short) lawfully or you lot get a Catalonia-type situation, how are you going to react and feel about that?
By the by, ruk is Dutch for crappy.

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Reply #78
Scotland not in Gt Britain
Moderator message: You're repeating your nonsense again Rj.

https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=2927.msg85372#msg85372
https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=2927.msg85375#msg85375

What have you been told about that?
The start and end to every story is the same. But what comes in between you have yourself to blame.

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Reply #79
Well, Colonel! It seems that you are indeed smitten! (Again...:) Are you still enamored with the Lost Cause?) GB (can I call it "George Bernard?!) -merrie olde England, etc., is a beautiful country, and home to wonderful people; I agree, and I too think it worth saving -- again :)! (Throw in Wales and Scotland; Ireland will take care of itself. :)) Remind me if you'd like to read (portions...?) of my uncle's memoir, “Bad Night at the Occidental”. He takes the family back to before the New World...

But we have important stuff to deal with in the here-and-now.
Have you contemplated the trajectory of our politics? I'd ask you to read David Cole's "The Curse of Aaron"? There are few serious thinkers who aren't afraid to write with clarity and cogency...

(If I remember correctly, it was you who chided me for reading Taki's Mag... "An actual fascist...!" I think you said. :) Are you still of the same opinion? -Taki's youth in Greece, what with WW II and everything, is not so very hard to understand.)
You have, I hope, finally realized what a boon Lincoln gave us: By refusing to hobble the south and treat its leaders as the laws of war required, he did an amazing thing: He preserved the union -- as best anyone could.
And then some fool of an actor shot him...
Reconstruction work out well for anyone, without Lincoln's steady hand and stout heart to guide our nation back?! (You know the answer; perhaps you've grown beyond fairy tales...) If only Frederic Douglas's advice had been followed...we might not have the makings of another real insurrection, with our black population presumed to be willing cannon fodder.)

Have I given you enough to chew on, Colonel? :)
I'll only add, you do have a regiment, don't you?:)! (Let's see Howie try to pry into this aspect of the topic...:)
Remembering the LC has its uses. In the interesting political times we live in, it seems as though the former Republican Party has forgotten what happened to the Democrats in 1860. It will be interesting to see what happens prior to 2024; will the former Republican Party split into two, or will it hold together.

Sure, I’ll have a look at your Uncle’s book.

I wrote a paper nearly a decade ago stating that by 2050, I felt as though the USA would cease to exist. Domestic terrorism, hyperinflation, and overextending foreign entanglements bring the causes.

Yes, Lincoln did leave us an excellent situation and we’ve bungled what he left us.


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Reply #80
I wrote a paper nearly a decade ago stating that by 2050, I felt as though the USA would cease to exist. Domestic terrorism, hyperinflation, and overextending foreign entanglements bring the causes.

Yes, Lincoln did leave us an excellent situation and we've bungled what he left
Us?! I's say you and I have done our part, mostly admirably! As have the vast majority of our countrymen. The Reconstruction was done -however cruelly, crudely and ineptly; and the past is the past. The vexatious Marxist influence in our society is the root of our current peril...
You cited proximate causes. (I won't dispute them...) But it may be too late for half-measures and palliatives: Someone once said something about "a house divided" and that counsel remains valid, as cautionary considerations go.
(Let us pray -if we've a mind to- that Franklin's admonition ("...hang together or...") is not what is needed!)
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Moderator edit:  You've been told to keep PM conversations off the forum, you've been told to take your repetitive guff elsewhere. You've had enough warnings but you still persist. My patience has now ran out and that's the final straw.
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Reply #82
The Capital police have reportedly shelved plans to re-install barriers 'round the Capital... :) See? Just give the mobs what they want and everything's peachy-keen! (Wanna bet?:)
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/y1Rwwb6Qaas

The speaker is Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Republican rightwing nutwoman in US Congress. Everything she mentions in the video, she thinks it's a Democrat authoritarian commie conspiracy that Biden should be impeached for, something she is indeed busy working on at the Congress.

For the rest of the world, those are completely uncontroversial policies. Even so for Biden, who took her speech and used it for his presidential campaign ad.

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Reply #84
That's hilarious.

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Reply #85
(It's too soon, because several keys are undecided yet, but) Biden is the more likely winner, according to Alan Lichtman who has correctly predicted every presidential election result since 1984 https://politicalpulse.net/us-politics/alan-lichtmans-prediction-for-2024/

Americans with their stupid non-system where the president has the freedom to be a treasonous nepotist election-denying incompetent buffoon and run again without any repercussions to himself while all his lawers and more eager supporters are being jailed left and right. And that this idiotic campaigning takes years in enormous cost of time, money and nerves. Oh Lord have mercy.

Good that this is over and done with now. Except if one of the main party candidates dies and the not the other....

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Reply #86
Americans with their stupid non-system where the president has the freedom to be a treasonous nepotist election-denying incompetent buffoon and run again without any repercussions to himself while all his law[y]ers and more eager supporters are being jailed left and right.
Can't even manage to put your frothing-at-the-mouth anger into sentence form! :) But look on the bright side: Michelle Obama might be "drafted" to run...
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Trump was a self-inflicted wound. But now it is like "it felt so good when we shot ourselves in the foot, so it must feel so much better if we shoot ourselves in the head".  It's beyond parody. Because of the consequences even if he isn't elected, this leans much further into tragedy than farce, but there is plenty of both.

USA is broken, hopefully not beyond repair.

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Reply #88
What you really mean is: The EU, Russia and the CCP don't want this... :)
 I understand your point of view: Bureaucratic power is the most important thing to maintain!
The U.S. must be cobbled... if it won't accede to its bureaucracy.
Good luck with that!

What you want is something that you can't deal with...  A United States that adheres to its original principles.                                                               
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What you mean is that you have no idea about anything. Russia welcomes Trump. Russia contributed to Trump's election campaign in 2016, significantly so, if not outright decisively. Trump and Putin are best buddies. Not as best as Trump and Epstein, but almost.

CCP also warmly welcomes an erratic American leader once again. The status of the war in Ukraine conveys the following message to the Far East: Westerners don't help even those of their own race, so they definitely won't help Asians. Meaning that Taiwan is entirely on its own, absolutely helpless in case USA gets a pact-ignoring Nato-demolishing president who has no idea about geopolitics, no idea about global trade and does not care to get an idea. For CCP this means: If Trump wins, we have Taiwan in our pocket. Foreseeing this, Japan has decided to remilitarise.

The EU is divided. Ever since the end of Cold War, the western half spearheaded by Germany and France has been working to undermine Nato (as a defence alliance against Russia) and USA's role on the continent. The western half of the EU has been working to approach Russia economically and politically, envisioning Russia's membership for the EU. A part of this policy has been to divest the new members of their voting rights with every new renegotiation of the EU constitution, and the next such step is right now on the lips of all western EU leaders, including Scholz, Macron, and Leyen.

The eastern half has no use for this kind of the EU. The eastern half of the EU sees Russia as an existential threat. They joined Nato and the EU (and Nato first) in order to counterbalance and counteract this existential threat. The current status of the war in Ukraine conveys the following message: Despite all treaties, alliances and memberships, the West does not do anything to hold itself to their declared values and signed commitments. The West sees no problem giving up the eastern countries to Russia. The following action by the eastern EU countries depends on how fast they are able to take this message in and reorient themselves. The fastest one to correctly foresee this coming was Orban who already reoriented Hungary pre-emptively. Hungary is best positioned for the post-Ukraine-war situation by having operable relations both with Russia and the EU biggies and also with USA, whoever the president there be. Hardly anyone else will (be able to) reorient themselves this radically, but at least nobody has any reason to hold to their commitments to the West any longer, since the West has by now clearly dropped all commitments (and even pretension of fairness) to the East which, for the East, held existential value, the most important value of all. The betrayal from the West has been absolutely total and thus reorientation is forced, inescapable. So, even though nobody in the eastern half of the EU welcomes a Nato-demolishing president in USA, realistically nobody can expect any president in USA be capable of saving Nato's reputation either. As a result, nobody in the eastern half of the EU gives a damn who becomes the president of USA. But the western half would welcome a reasonably polished diplomatic figure who would not look too bad to take a photo together with. Trump is not welcome for that reason.

And what is your reason to favour Trump for president, OakdaleFTL? I get it: He is the treasonous nepotist election-denying dictator wannabe with no morals, no principles, and no professionalism. He represents everything near and dear to yourself.

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Reply #90
Trump attempted a campaign video. Did not go well.

Trump Posts, Then Takes Down, Video Online With Headlines About a ‘Unified Reich’ - The New York Times

I saw the video. Its bold points (all of them):

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What happens after Donald Trump wins?
- The economy blooms
- The border is closed and the largest deportation in history is underway
- No more wars as we focus on home
- Law and order is restored
- The American dream is back and the best is yet to come
Make America Great Again!
These were all in bold and in caps in the video, and also spoken in audio. Normal campaign promises. American voters have no issue with those. The issue that NYT raised was instead that, in the video, which was designed as if newspaper headlines, the blurred newspaper main text (the "fine print") spelled out "the creation of Unified Reich". Trump evidently concurred it does not look good for him, so he took the video down.

And the presidential race continues. Cheers!

 

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Reply #91
Apparently they have plausible deniability. One wonders how such a thing would slip in "accidentally"…

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Reply #92
"the creation of Unified Reich"
Apparently, a few Europeans (as well as most Americans...) don't know much of their history.

But I'd agree, somebody more savvy should be in charge of Trump's social media.

Still: Who in their right mind takes "social media" seriously? :) (I know, of course!)
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Apparently they have plausible deniability.
There is no deniability to a campaign video, definitely not anything even remotely plausible. Simple test: Think if Biden had done it...

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Reply #94
Nobody thinks Biden does anything... :)

Since you've long maintained your animosity and ill-wishes for the U.S., your support of Biden is quite understandable: His "team" will, if he wins a second term, do everything possible to destroy America.
And you'd applaud their efforts, ersi. Why, I wonder...[1]

Are you also gleeful about the predictable Jew-hatred becoming "popular"? :)
You've never explained your reasons...
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[Biden's] "team" will, if he wins a second term, do everything possible to destroy America.
Can you lay out the steps how he would proceed to do it? And why only on the second term? Why not now?

I can easily see how Trump would do it. Namely, he would just follow the steps of his first term again, more aggressively. How would Biden do it, please?

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Reply #96
Inflation, destruction of the auto industry, destruction of the energy sector; DEI in the military, schools and corporations... The "Migrant Crisis" engineered by the administration...

And, yes, in his first term he's pursued all of that consistently.

His faux folksiness doesn't extend to the old maxim: When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging!
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I was expecting that you'd mention Biden's attempt to assassinate Trump on the Mar-a-Lago raid. Did you accidentally forget it?

Inflation, destruction of the auto industry, destruction of the energy sector; DEI in the military, schools and corporations...
Inflation is not what a president does. Inflation is pretty much like weather. The Fed and the Wall Street have the closest effect on it. The president does not. Besides, the inflation has been stabilised in USA. It is worse in the EU where there is no Biden.

Your auto industry started having a crisis as soon as you started importing Japanese cars. The worst times were under W. The city of Detroit went bankrupt in 2013. Since then, things have gotten better for the industry. Perhaps you don't like electric cars? Neither do I, except that I don't like cars overall. By the way, the biggest EV maker in USA is Elon Musk, who is part of the Trump cult. He is not complaining that the auto industry is being destroyed.

Destruction of the energy sector? You have been lied to.

DEI in the military, schools and corporations? If it's so bad, why did not Trump do anything to stop it? Maybe because in truth he really doesn't care to govern, as was demonstrated by his first term. He only likes to revel in attention and power, which he thinks must be absolute when he's the president.

The "Migrant Crisis" engineered by the administration...
You mean the migrant crisis engineered by Trump administration? First, he supposedly built a wall against migrants. If not, blame him. If yes, but there is still a real migrant crisis, blame him because his wall does not work.

But in truth there is no real migrant crisis, except for what Trump falsely claims for his campaign purposes. If you believe him, then you are exactly the factless type he targets. He targets the types who have no capacity to look things up. In other words, congrats for having been successfully brainwashed into the personality cult of your party leader.

Will you ever ask yourself why you are consistently wrong about everything? Of course you won't. You don't care about right or wrong. You care about hyperpartisanship for your dictator wannabe.

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Reply #98
DEI in the military, schools and corporations? If it's so bad, why did not Trump do anything to stop it? Maybe because in truth he really doesn't care to govern, as was demonstrated by his first term.
You'll see mentioned in the article from the City Journal that, indeed, Trump promptly rescinded Obama's DEI "guidance" from the Department of Education...

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The intensity of the battle doesn’t guarantee the longevity of the war. Sometimes, the defeated party accepts the public’s verdict and stops demanding rematches.

That may be happening in American civil rights law. In its name, contemporary progressives advocate the use of disparate-impact analysis to force private parties to treat Americans differently based on race and ancestry. Yet, after promising loudly to do otherwise, the Biden administration has largely avoided defending the legality of this practice in its enforcement of Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

Because of the size of the federal government, the stakes for Title VI enforcement are high. Federal outlays account for about 20 percent of American GDP. Title VI applies to all recipients of those outlays. Many non-recipients may plan to bid for federal contracts or grants in the future, so they’ll need to demonstrate compliance with Title VI, too. Title VI, then, directly or indirectly, effectively governs more than 20 percent of the national economy.

But Title VI is a nondiscrimination statute. Applying the theory of disparate impact—which seeks to uncover intentional but hidden discrimination—turns Title VI on its head by transforming the statute into a cudgel that would require discrimination. The Biden administration wants to compel the very practice that Congress passed Title VI to forbid. The administration has indeed deployed disparate-impact theory through Title VI, pushing for what it calls “equity” through a host of administrative actions.

Still, in at least two settings where parties challenged that deployment as illegal—school disciplinary policies and environmental policy—the administration has dodged consequent litigation. The White House implicitly concedes that it lacks the power to use civil rights regulations to require discrimination.
The intensity of the battle doesn’t guarantee the longevity of the war. Sometimes, the defeated party accepts the public’s verdict and stops demanding rematches.  That may be happening in American civil rights law. In its name, contemporary progressives advocate the use of disparate-impact analysis to force private parties to treat Americans differently based on race and ancestry. Yet, after promising loudly to do otherwise, the Biden administration has largely avoided defending the legality of this practice in its enforcement of Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.  Because of the size of the federal government, the stakes for Title VI enforcement are high. Federal outlays account for about 20 percent of American GDP. Title VI applies to all recipients of those outlays. Many non-recipients may plan to bid for federal contracts or grants in the future, so they’ll need to demonstrate compliance with Title VI, too. Title VI, then, directly or indirectly, effectively governs more than 20 percent of the national economy.  But Title VI is a nondiscrimination statute. Applying the theory of disparate impact—which seeks to uncover intentional but hidden discrimination—turns Title VI on its head by transforming the statute into a cudgel that would require discrimination. The Biden administration wants to compel the very practice that Congress passed Title VI to forbid. The administration has indeed deployed disparate-impact theory through Title VI, pushing for what it calls “equity” through a host of administrative actions.  Still, in at least two settings where parties challenged that deployment as illegal—school disciplinary policies and environmental policy—the administration has dodged consequent litigation. The White House implicitly concedes that it lacks the power to use civil rights regulations to require discrimination.
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(Your comment about inflation shows a surprising ignorance! Like the weather? Really? :) )
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You don't know how to quote. Everything you quote is irrelevant to your point. I had to go to the full article to see if there is anything relevant there. The relevant part is this:

Obama’s guidance was never challenged in court, before the Trump administration swiftly rescinded it.
See how short it is? I mean, you see how full of nonsense you are? In so many words you are saying absolutely nothing. And they are not even your own words. They are mindless quotes from people whose air you like, but whose drift you do not understand.

This (what I quoted, not you) is absolutely all that this article says about what Trump allegedly did about DEI. The problem is that the article does not reference the document by which Trump did it. Therefore the article provides no timeline to assess how "swiftly" Trump did it.

The logical problem is that, if Trump indeed rescinded Obama's DEI swiftly, then Obama's DEI was never tested in practice, had no time to have a practical effect, so there is no way to compare whether Trump's policy was better or Obama's. But assuming that Obama's DEI policy stuck around long enough to be deemed bad by you, but there were no court challenges to Obama's DEI, then the problem is that you are deeming DEI bad based on your lunatic hallucinations only, regardless of law, order, justice etc. which are clearly meaningless things for you. This is your normal mode of operation.

What I was able to gather from primary sources is that in September 2020 Trump issued an executive order 13950 “Combating Race and Sex Stereotyping” that banned DEI trainings. As you very well (don't) know, 2020 was Trump's last year in office, not first or second or third, so there was nothing swift or prompt about his executive order. Trump lost elections by the end of the year and Biden became the president. In January 2021, pretty much as soon as he had taken over, Biden signed an executive order revoking Trump's executive order. So the facts are that it was Biden who was swift against Trump. Trump's executive order was in effect for less than one academic study term, thus having no practical effect. But of course you do not know any of this, because you do not acknowledge that Biden is the president, you do not care about facts, you do not know what news are, and you have no capacity to look things up from primary sources. You only look at factless word salad opinions of hyperpartisan think tanks who are probably producing their articles by means of ChatGPT these days.

All this is not to say that I am in favour of DEI. I am not. I hate corporate wokeness. But, being corporate wokeness, there is nothing much for ordinary people to do about it legally. The power disparity is too steep. The DEI talks about gender and other BS, but does nothing about actual far more glaring inequality, such as income inequality, thus DEI policies demonstrate that their purpose is not to address any actual social issues, but to drive people mad with their hypocrisy. The best that people can do is to not take the bait, not go mad. But you have gone incorrigibly mad.

(Your comment about inflation shows a surprising ignorance! Like the weather? Really? :) )
And what insight are you providing here? What is inflation according to you, doofus? Nah, never anything of substance from you, just factless partisan blather.