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Reply #100 –
Well done there. A brilliant picture of a real man and a pity the ex-colonies cannot produce anything but would-be world dictators. With 80% of his country behind him Yanks can only fall back on this stuff and what they are brained into so well done boy!
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #101 –
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Reply #102 –
Quote from: Colonel Rebel on

I think Donetsk will be the turning point in his ambition(s).
Annex it and he leaves no doubt,....

No doubt to whom? Is there anyone doing anything about the annexation of Crimea?

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Reply #103 –
Would you call the staged putch in Kiev 'nothing'?
As for all those who are really concerned about the Ukrainian people - how about transfering 10% of your income to Kiev?
The (failed) state is already bankrupt.
Besides, Mr Poroshenko will have to build a huge fence around the territories he still has under control so young people, liable to military service can't flee.

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Reply #104 –
Colonel rebel like the average US brained guffs this nonsense of Russia absorbing the 2 eastern provinces. That he hasrepeatedly and in public  said he does not want them makes no difference to the closed mindset. Now how many times have we also been dished out the news of the dozens of Russian tanks across the country and all the troops. Just the other day the commander of the Ukrainian Army has backed away from this Kiev rubbish because it cannot be substantiated and he is bright enough to know that.  That the Ukrainian National Guard has a lot of the Right Sector Nazis on board is of course neatly avoided and I watched a tv news item with young me from the West of Ukraine (note West!) saying they objected to being in the army fighting for what. Hhhm, interesting one that.

A week or two ago the Ukrainian Army mounted a large attack on the rebels which was quite different from the breaks in the cease fire. However our news in the West will intimate the occasional Ukrainian soldiers killed as a balanced report? In the same report hospitals which are not involved in the civil war are now suffering. Kiev has suspended the salaries of doctors and nurses and medical with supplies about to run out. Why are they doing that?  A million Ukrainians have fled into the Russian Federation for safety. Ordinary people not fighters and that gives a strain on Russia having to provide shelter and help at great cost. If this was Africa we would get help flowing in and a lot of damn hype.

That Kiev cuts off medical staff tending to civilians is a disgrace and simply ignored by the West. Neo-Nazi government ministers, wanting monuments to the Kiev Nazi leader during WW2 and getting support from the Right Sector is all very principled, eh? There are two very prominent matters in Ukraine that needed to be remembered. The West side actively supported the Nazis in WW2 and the East did not and much of that attitude still lives on.  When that coup overturned a democratic election Kiev did not include the East because they knew that part of the country would be against the illegality. Then they made a point of stopping Russian as a national language so they created this disaster not Putin not Russia. Indeed Putin was very correct about saying that if Kiev had went for a federal system there would have been no such trouble as now so what was wrong with that? When you also consider that the East provides much of the economy you would have though that sense would come in Kiev but it hasn't. The Prime Minister is an arrogant and despicable oaf too.

So there you are a federal thing would have avoided all this trouble that Kiev made so maybe the West should ask why this was not considered instead of using anything to have a go at Russia because America and the West cannot dominate it.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #105 –
Quote from: rjhowie on

Colonel rebel like the average US brained guffs this nonsense of Russia absorbing the 2 eastern provinces. That he hasrepeatedly and in public  said he does not want them makes no difference to the closed mindset.

It might be true that he don't want them as part of the RF but he wouldn't mind if they would become autonomous regions.

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Reply #106 –
And in America the great democracy and temple of rights? All phone calls, texts, bill paying, emails, etc all open to spying on by a list of spy agencies at home (more than any other nation) of which the NSA is the worst. Probably the most expensive, dangerous and uncontrolled and no-one can equal this American interference in the privates lives of EVERYONE.I would sum it up as.....worrying.




on their own people. I would sum it up by saying.....worrying.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #108 –
Didn't the Soviet Union at least partially implode from spending far too much of its money on the military instead of civil stuff?

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Reply #111 –
No! He's a Putin fanboy.

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Reply #112 –
I think RJH expects Putin to bring back the Romanov dynasty-- or a reasonable facsimile thereof. I have a suspicion there won't be anymore tsars in Russia though. What does come down is a bit of a mystery, but a return to tsarist Russia probably ain't it.
What would happen if a large asteroid slammed into the Earth?
According to several tests involving a watermelon and a large hammer, it would be really bad!

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Reply #113 –
It apparently never occurred to him that some of revolution was pretty well inevitable to tsarist Russia due to the combined incompetence and tyranny of the tsars.

Of course, you can read about NIcholas in the quick go-to source.

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Nicholas II ruled from 1 November 1894 until his forced abdication on 15 March 1917.[4] His reign saw Imperial Russia go from being one of the foremost great powers of the world to economic and military collapse. Political enemies nicknamed him Nicholas the Bloody because of the Khodynka Tragedy, alleged anti-Semitic pogroms, Bloody Sunday, his violent suppression of the 1905 Revolution, his execution of political opponents, and his pursuit of military campaigns on an unprecedented scale.[5][6]

Under his rule, Russia was humiliatingly defeated in the Russo-Japanese War, which saw the almost total annihilation of the Russian Baltic Fleet at the Battle of Tsushima. The Anglo-Russian Entente, designed to counter German attempts to gain influence in the Middle East, ended the Great Game between Russia and the United Kingdom. As head of state, Nicholas approved the Russian mobilisation of August 1914, which marked the beginning of Russia's involvement in the First World War, a war in which 3.3 million Russians were killed.[7] The Imperial Army's severe losses and the High Command's incompetent handling of the war, along with other policies directed by Nicholas during his reign, are often cited as the leading causes of the fall of the Romanov dynasty.


Yup, that really sounds like the type of leadership to wax romantic over. The only remaining question is what kind of hallucinogens was the  Russian Orthodox Church on when they canonized him as a saint.

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Reply #114 –
Quote from: Sanguinemoon on

The only remaining question is what kind of hallucinogens was the  Russian Orthodox Church on when they canonized him as a saint.

Because those godless commies got him.
The way things were going someone would have got him sooner or later, it's not like they were the only ones trying to get rid of him.

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Reply #115 –
Yes Imperial Rssia did get slapped in it's war with Japan and what a disaster Sanguinemoon. May I also remind you dear red neck that your wonderful big military machine and country got humiiated and beaten in South Vietnam/ Soldiers who wounded themselves  and were undisicpined, on drugs, etc? Soodon't take the moral ground when you are not justified. Yeah I would like to have seen a Monarchy back in Russia but it won't happen as too long a gap. At the same time back on the Opera Forums I have a link to a Us historian whwhich showed that the US President before WW1 actually complimented the Russian Emperor Nicholas 2nd for the changes and improvements taking place. In law the Bar was totally independent og government and often annoyed the government in some of the court decisions. The secret police was tiny which surprised the Provisonal Government in 1018 and in fact it couldn't come and arrest you willy-nilly. They had to get a warrant from the ordinary police via the Governor and you were entitled to legal representation. Farm and heavy industry production was up, gradually wider franchise and what goes with it. Nicholas was not that keen on being Tsar but had no choice. So a US Prsident patting a Tsar> Nice one!

When you consider the formation and growth of the US and all the terrible stuff that happened that totally contravened that "Constitution" again the moral high ground is not an option.Russi is quite entitled to extending it's defence if it wants and what a load of codswallop from Yanks who think they have a damn right to control and rule the world. Over 400 bases and more, intimidating places that don't follow your political ground or commerce, make excuses to invade and thing you have some Godly right to militarily and politically rule the world?

Now 8 new NATO bases as close to Russia as can get them involving a situation that has damn nothing to do with America nor NATO. You folk are so big-headed, full of yourselves and some mistaken belief you are principled and moral. Politically and militarily you are children. Oh and jimbro dancer. The day the country stops being imperial in these modern days and stops marching the world creating wars I will stop drinking Irn Bru and might stretch to a shandy. Tsar Vladimir 1st? Yeah great ring to it - bring it on even if it makes the Chicagoan neo-con sill his beer! Good that Russia is re-asserting itslef and Cold War brained Americans who are miffed they have competition!  :lol: :up:

ps Whilst diung this I am playing a CD from the St Petersburg Naval Academy Band which includes all the marches of the former Imperial Tsarist Guard Regiments.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #116 –
What's Putin up to now! Sinkholes, that's what.

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Reply #117 –
I wonder what kind of hallucinogens our friend from Glasgow is on. That must be some really potent stuff!

Nicholas II didn't cut such a fine figure, he couldn't grasp that the world was changing and that autocratic rule was becoming a thing of the past-- even if he had been a competent ruler, which apparently he wasn't. Getting involved with Rasputin made things infinitely worse, too.
What would happen if a large asteroid slammed into the Earth?
According to several tests involving a watermelon and a large hammer, it would be really bad!

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Reply #118 –
Quote from: Jimbro3738 on

What's Putin up to now! Sinkholes, that's what.




:sing: Ain't no place like a hole in the ground, a hole in the ground, a hole in the ground.  :sing:
What would happen if a large asteroid slammed into the Earth?
According to several tests involving a watermelon and a large hammer, it would be really bad!

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Reply #120 –
This guy says Russia would've been pretty similar with or without Putin: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/02/nice-putin-russia-115431.html

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We keep hearing that with the invasion of Crimea, Russia has upset the stable post-Cold War order.

However, I have no idea who this "we" is. I haven't heard such a thing on NPR or any European media.

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Reply #122 –
Quote from: Frenzie on

This guy says Russia would've been pretty similar with or without Putin: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/02/nice-putin-russia-115431.html


At least with this single sentence of his, I agree. Most of the rest of his saying is viewed through US made glasses...

With G.W. Bush or B. Obama as President, the USA is pretty similar as well. So it will be similar irrespective of whoever will replace B. Obama.
Geostrategic ambitions and interests of a sovereign state don't change with the President.

BTW, US military parade in its new backyard - a few hundred meters away from the Russian border.

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Reply #124 –
Quote from: krake on

Quote from: Frenzie on

This guy says Russia would've been pretty similar with or without Putin: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/02/nice-putin-russia-115431.html


At least with this single sentence of his, I agree. Most of the rest of his saying is viewed through US made glasses...

With G.W. Bush or B. Obama as President, the USA is pretty similar as well. So it will be similar irrespective of whoever will replace B. Obama.
Geostrategic ambitions and interests of a sovereign state don't change with the President.

BTW, US military parade in its new backyard - a few hundred meters away from the Russian border.



Where?