How do you live with/without FF 29?

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How do you live with/without FF 29?

2014-05-05, 05:59:57

Some distros, such as Mageia, conservatively come with ESR on board. I will avoid FF 29.

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #1 – 2014-05-05, 06:39:17

I'm using ESR and so far it's OK.

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #2 – 2014-05-05, 11:45:29

Didn't update yet but I'll keep the old package around just in case

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #3 – 2014-05-05, 14:11:44

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/firefox-29-sucks.html

That being said, I don't use Firefox much. As far as I'm concerned they already went on a clear route to Chrome-wannabe since 4.0, anyway. 3.5/3.6 was the pinnacle of Firefox GUI.

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #4 – 2014-05-05, 16:21:06

Will IceWeasel be affected somehow?

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #5 – 2014-05-05, 17:08:07

It would seem that Google is god. For proof, witness the race to the bottom that Google's Chrome browser has started.

Frenzie, that link you provided has a link within it to an add-on that restores Firefox to reasonable looks, if not reasonable usability. I tried it just a few minutes ago, not great maybe but not too bad. Especially since "great" seems to be a goal that nobody is working towards anymore. Minimizing everything so a barely-trained ape using a cell-phone browser can use it seems to be the goal these days.

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #6 – 2014-05-05, 18:41:25

Quote from: Barulheira on 2014-05-05, 16:21:06

Will IceWeasel be affected somehow?

As FF becomes Australis, Iceweasel becomes a fork rather than mere rebranding, I suppose. I also think that Vimperator won't be affected. Vimperator is in active development and can keep both its own interface and compatibility with FF. (I don't use Vimperator myself.)

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #7 – 2014-05-05, 21:31:04

I am using both Cyberfox 28 and Firefox 29 on a regular basis. With the right extensions, Fx Australis 29 can look the same as Firefox 28. Unlike Opium, Firefox is still highly customizable.

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #8 – 2014-05-07, 01:04:14

Updated and ... looks like they're trying to make the X11 version look like the one for Android which in turn tries to look like Chrome. Took me a minute or so to get the menu bar back, otherwise things arent too horrible.

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #9 – 2014-05-08, 18:06:34

Things are horrible at my main work. Everybody's Win computer is being changed to Linux Mint. I got mine today, fully updated. This means that I am working in Australis interface now.

Naturally I don't have admin privileges. We'll see if I care go through the extensions hassle to change FF back to something what it used to be.

Also, there's a bug (feature?) in Cinnamon desktop environment that causes FF always to confirm when closing multiple tabs. No FF tweak in about:config helps. This must be something in Cinnamon desktop, because it doesn't happen in other Mint editions.

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #10 – 2014-05-08, 21:19:18

You all worry too much with computers,
Women are better.

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #11 – 2014-06-03, 19:32:35

Works surprisingly well, even on SPARC ( which is about as un-x86 as you can get )

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #12 – 2014-06-03, 20:36:08

At work, I have learned to live with it. It's not like they changed keyboard shortcuts or took any necessary features away. It doesn't operate too differently.

But everywhere else besides workplace, I have replaced it. If a distro ships with it, I uninstall FF. Seamonkey is (again) the best Mozilla.

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #13 – 2014-07-24, 07:32:16

I prefer to use only Portable Versions of FireFox.

I presently have these versions resident on my Windows 7 SP1 Laptop.

[glow=yellow,2,300]The Yellow Highlighted Folder is FireFox Portable ESR Version 24.7.0 which I just downloaded today & will be using until the next ESR version is available.[/glow] So far it works perfectly, & as yet I can't detect any difference between this & the prior version. All my extensions from the previous version work with this version, & there seems to be only one that I needed to modify the max version# to enable.

These are the Extensions I'm presently running on this ESR:
(Total 61)
EXTENSIONS: 61
1. "Adblock Plus 2.3.2" {d10d0bf8-f5b5-c8b4-a8b2-2b9879e08c5d} (Aug. 07, 2013) :: ACTIVE
2. "Adobe Acrobat - Create PDF 1.2" web2pdfextension@web2pdf.adobedotcom (May 02, 2014) :: ACTIVE
3. "All-in-One Sidebar 0.7.18" {097d3191-e6fa-4728-9826-b533d755359d} (Aug. 02, 2013) :: ACTIVE
4. "Base64 ⇒ Encoder 1.3.14" {ad4fb47f-4ae5-4405-79c9-19fc7034c4d3} (Jun. 12, 2012) :: ACTIVE
5. "Block site 1.1.8" {dd3d7613-0246-469d-bc65-2a3cc1668adc} (May 05, 2014) :: ACTIVE
6. "Classic Compact Options 16.0.1" notreal.ccoptions@environmentalchemistry.com (Jan. 01, 2013) :: ACTIVE
7. "ColorfulTabs 21.5" {0545b830-f0aa-4d7e-8820-50a4629a56fe} (Jun. 27, 2014) :: ACTIVE
8. "CoolPreviews 3.9" {CE6E6E3B-84DD-4cac-9F63-8D2AE4F30A4B} (Apr. 15, 2013) :: ACTIVE
9. "Custom Buttons 0.0.5.8" custombuttons@xsms.org (Jun. 02, 2014) :: ACTIVE
10. "Download Status Bar 10.0.0" {6c28e999-e900-4635-a39d-b1ec90ba0c0f} (Jun. 27, 2014) :: ACTIVE
11. "DownloadHelper 4.9.21" {b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d} (Nov. 29, 2013) :: ACTIVE
12. "DownThemAll! 2.0.16" {DDC359D1-844A-42a7-9AA1-88A850A938A8} (Apr. 19, 2013) :: ACTIVE
13. "Easy Youtube Video Downloader Express 7.24" {b9acf540-acba-11e1-8ccb-001fd0e08bd4} (May 29, 2014) :: ACTIVE
14. "Extended Statusbar 1.5.8" {daf44bf7-a45e-4450-979c-91cf07434c3d} (Sep. 20, 2011) :: ACTIVE
15. "Extension Options Menu 2.7" {1feca320-6b4d-11df-a08a-0800200c9a66} (Jul. 21, 2013) :: ACTIVE
16. "external IP 0.9.9.6" externalip@erik.morlin (Feb. 09, 2014) :: ACTIVE
17. "Fasterfox 3.9.85" {c36177c0-224a-11da-8cd6-0800200c9a91} (Jun. 08, 2014) :: ACTIVE
18. "FEBE 7.1.0" {4BBDD651-70CF-4821-84F8-2B918CF89CA3} (Jun. 25, 2014) :: ACTIVE
19. "Flagfox 4.2.11" {1018e4d6-728f-4b20-ad56-37578a4de76b} (Jan. 20, 2014) :: ACTIVE
20. "FoxClocks 3.1.26" {d37dc5d0-431d-44e5-8c91-49419370caa1} (Mar. 27, 2014) :: ACTIVE
21. "FoxyProxy Standard 4.2.1" foxyproxy@eric.h.jung (Jan. 20, 2014) :: ACTIVE
22. "Ghostery 2.9.6" firefox@ghostery.com (Nov. 26, 2013) :: ACTIVE
23. "Google Shortener 0.3" {B81B80BF-8F35-4BC0-9236-EFB3F7EE9282} (Mar. 07, 2013) :: ACTIVE
24. "Google Translator for Firefox 2.1.0.3" translator@zoli.bod (Dec. 09, 2013) :: ACTIVE
25. "Greasefire 1.0.8.1esr6pre" greasefire@skrul.com (May 28, 2014) :: ACTIVE
26. "Greasemonkey 0.9.22" {e4a8a97b-f2ed-450b-b12d-ee082ba24781} (May 28, 2014) :: ACTIVE
27. "gTranslate 0.9" {aff87fa2-a58e-4edd-b852-0a20203c1e17} (Jul. 28, 2013) :: ACTIVE
28. "IE Tab 2 (FF 3.6+) 4.12.22.2" {1BC9BA34-1EED-42ca-A505-6D2F1A935BBB} (Nov. 26, 2013) :: ACTIVE
29. "iMacros for Firefox 8.6.0" {81BF1D23-5F17-408D-AC6B-BD6DF7CAF670} (Feb. 09, 2014) :: ACTIVE
30. "Image Download Ⅱ 6.0.5" imagedownload@Merci.chao (Jan. 01, 2013) :: ACTIVE
31. "Image Zoom 0.6.3" {1A2D0EC4-75F5-4c91-89C4-3656F6E44B68} (Jul. 07, 2013) :: ACTIVE
32. "ImageShack right-click 1.0.1" imageshack@unsubstantial.info (Oct. 11, 2011) :: ACTIVE
33. "Imgur Uploader 1.0.6" giorgio@gilestro.tk (Jan. 01, 2013) :: ACTIVE
34. "Link Gopher 1.3.2" linkgopher@oooninja.com (Jul. 01, 2014) :: ACTIVE
35. "Linkification 1.3.9" {35106bca-6c78-48c7-ac28-56df30b51d2a} (Jul. 13, 2012) :: ACTIVE
36. "MeasureIt 0.4.12" {75CEEE46-9B64-46f8-94BF-54012DE155F0} (Jul. 07, 2013) :: ACTIVE
37. "Menu Editor 1.2.7" {EDA7B1D7-F793-4e03-B074-E6F303317FB0} (Nov. 06, 2011) :: ACTIVE
38. "MR Tech Toolkit 6.0.4.9000" {9669CC8F-B388-42FE-86F4-CB5E7F5A8BDC} (Sep. 21, 2011) :: ACTIVE
39. "NetVideoHunter 1.9.5" netvideohunter@netvideohunter.com (Nov. 26, 2013) :: ACTIVE
40. "Noia 4 Theme Manager 1.7.5" Noia4Options@ArisT2 (Jan. 08, 2014) :: ACTIVE
41. "NoSquint 2.1.6" nosquint@urandom.ca (Nov. 13, 2013) :: ACTIVE
42. "Password Exporter 1.2.1" {B17C1C5A-04B1-11DB-9804-B622A1EF5492} (Feb. 09, 2014) :: ACTIVE
43. "PDF Viewer 0.8.1" uriloader@pdf.js (May 02, 2014) :: DISABLED
44. "ReminderFox 2.1.2" {ada4b710-8346-4b82-8199-5de2b400a6ae} (Nov. 26, 2013) :: ACTIVE
45. "Restore View Source for Firefox 6+ 0.1" restoreviewsource@jsanders.us (Dec. 01, 2012) :: ACTIVE
46. "Resurrect Pages 2.0.6" {0c8fbd76-bdeb-4c52-9b24-d587ce7b9dc3} (Dec. 16, 2011) :: ACTIVE
47. "RightToClick 2.9.4" {cd617375-6743-4ee8-bac4-fbf10f35729e} (Jan. 01, 2013) :: ACTIVE
48. "Saved Password Editor 2.7" savedpasswordeditor@daniel.dawson (Apr. 19, 2013) :: ACTIVE
49. "Secure Login 1.0.3" secureLogin@blueimp.net (Jan. 01, 2013) :: ACTIVE
50. "Session Manager 0.8.0.8" {1280606b-2510-4fe0-97ef-9b5a22eafe30} (Aug. 15, 2013) :: ACTIVE
51. "Show Password 1.7" showpassword@pratikpoddar (Oct. 15, 2012) :: ACTIVE
52. "Site Favicon in Urlbar 8.1" sitefavinurlbar@sonco.com (Nov. 26, 2013) :: ACTIVE
53. "Speed Dial 0.9.6.15" {64161300-e22b-11db-8314-0800200c9a66} (Jul. 07, 2013) :: ACTIVE
54. "Statusbar Clock 1.8.0" {3669edc0-b1ad-11d8-92e7-00d09e0179f2} (Dec. 18, 2013) :: ACTIVE
55. "Stylish 1.4.3" {46551EC9-40F0-4e47-8E18-8E5CF550CFB8} (May 22, 2014) :: ACTIVE
56. "Tab Mix Plus 0.4.1.0" {dc572301-7619-498c-a57d-39143191b318} (Apr. 20, 2013) :: ACTIVE
57. "Text Formatting Toolbar 0.1.4.10" format.bar@codefisher.org (Feb. 09, 2014) :: ACTIVE
58. "Toolbar Buttons 1.0" {03B08592-E5B4-45ff-A0BE-C1D975458688} (Nov. 26, 2013) :: ACTIVE
59. "User Agent Switcher 0.7.3" {e968fc70-8f95-4ab9-9e79-304de2a71ee1} (Sep. 28, 2011) :: ACTIVE
60. "Vertical Toolbar 0.5.1" verticaltoolbar@xuldev.org (Aug. 15, 2013) :: ACTIVE
61. "Web Search Pro 3.0.7" {8B8A525A-CFCA-44cf-81C3-3969E6CB96E0} (Jun. 14, 2012) :: ACTIVE

I have Compatibility Disabled, & some of them are no longer supported by their creator so I needed to update the max version # myself.

Sometimes that works, but then again sometimes it doesn't.... Not being a programmer, I rely on pot luck.

Now, FireFox V29 Australis works ok, but the changes were a pain to overcome & adapt to, & I find the new Customize Toolbar a real abortion, so I have decided to stay with the Portable ESR which so far hasn't gone to Australis. If it does, I will stop with the last non-Australis version.

If anyone needs Custom Toolbars for Australis, there is an undocumented extension I came across which can provide you with as many (or as few) as you wish. Experienced programmers can adjust the number of toolbars generated in the overlay.xul

I needed them for my custom buttons (Custom Buttons Extension).

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #14 – 2014-07-24, 08:01:04

That's an impressive number of extensions!

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #15 – 2014-07-24, 08:23:15

Yeah, The only impact I see with them is the initial loading time, & Re-Start cycle times (+/- 35 seconds).

I'm willing to live with them, but there might be a few I could cull without too much impact to my simple browsing habits.

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #16 – 2014-07-24, 19:14:11

A year after switching to Firefox from Opera 12, I have gotten very comfortable with Firefox and a couple of its 64 bit branches.

Cyberfox-30.64 in on both my laptop and desktop as default browser.
Waterfox-30.64 is being tested on my laptop.
On a USB 3.0 portable drive:
Firefox 31 Portable
Firefox 32 Beta Portable
Firefox 33 Aurora Portable
Firefox 34 Nightly Portable
Firefox 34.64 Nightly Portable

All are running a copy of the same profile. Some extensions are a absolute must:

All-in-One Sidebar 0.7.21/7.23
InstantFox 2.8.9
Classic Theme Restorer 1.2.3beta4
Classic Toolbar Buttons 1.4.1beta5
S3.Menu Wizard 1.05
Speed Dial [FVD] -5.4.1
Tab Mix Plus 0.4.1.4pre.140613a1

Plus 45 other extensions I find useful. Australis is not a problem as long as there are extensions to correct the lame development/marketing design.

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #17 – 2014-07-25, 08:05:19

Quote from: Frenzie on 2014-07-24, 08:01:04

That's an impressive number of extensions!

Indeed.
However I'm using Firefox ESR with 'only' 5 extensions and it's OK for me. So far the best replacement for Opera.
- All In One Gestures
- Archive Format
- Toggle JavaScript
- Toggle Cookies
- Toggle Proxies

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #18 – 2014-07-25, 09:09:42

I'm sure I could cull the patch a tad, but I've been collecting them for years, & the only time I rid myself of one is when there's a conflict, or it impacts on what I want to do.

So, if they sit there & mind their own business, & leave 'em be.

So far, the only impact to my style is -- as I noted earlier -- seems to be the re-start, & initial load times.

What do you FireFox users think of the Custom Buttons Extension?

A number of my buttons have been negatively impacted upon by recent FX changes, but the CB community always seems to find a fix.

Personally, I couldn't live without it.

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #19 – 2014-07-25, 09:21:39

Quote from: krake on 2014-07-25, 08:05:19

However I'm using Firefox ESR with 'only' 5 extensions and it's OK for me. So far the best replacement for Opera.

I use three main ones at the moment, but Opera/Presto is still my main browser: Greasemonkey, Stylish, and Tab Mix Plus.

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #20 – 2014-07-25, 10:28:49

Quote from: Frenzie on 2014-07-25, 09:21:39

but Opera/Presto is still my main browser ...

Mine as well, for the most time as you can see

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #21 – 2014-07-25, 11:22:42

My main browser is FireFox Portable v24.7.0 ESR, but my first go-to-browser would be/is Opera v12.16.

Actually I have about 25+ browsers at my fingertips, which opens the open URL in whatever browser I choose via a 1 button press from a drop-down menu:

So, if I open a site in FFx & I don't like what I see, or it just isnt quite right, or I think there's more to be had, I just open my Browser Launcher Button & choose the browser I want to give the present URL a run on (From the above list).

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #22 – 2014-07-26, 05:39:52

I have heard rumours that newest official ESR now sports the same Australis interface and the next update cycle on our Linuxes will bring it on to us.

I have ESR on one machine. Seamonkey on other personal machines. Australis at work.

Many extensions are not my thing. On Seamonkey I have some adblock (Adblock Edge right now), wmlbrowser, some themes (true themes), nothing more. On ESR I have, in addition, more copy-paste and tab management features. That's it.

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #23 – 2014-07-27, 11:11:08

Just updated, actually feels a little bit faster

Re: How do you live with/without FF 29?

Reply #24 – 2014-07-27, 11:39:17

Quote

In Firefox 31, the browser.tabs.closeButtons option was removed. This addon forces what previously used to be a value of 2 for that option: no close buttons on any tabs.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/no-close-buttons/?src=search

This is far beyond ridiculous. The updates consist purely in removal of options. How is the work invested into removal of usability justified? Is it meant to provide extension authors with a happy sense of being useful?

I'm completely done with FF now.

Poll

FF 29 has landed. How do you carry on through this?