The American 2016 Presidential Elections & The Ongoing American Saga

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Reply #875 – 2016-03-25, 14:12:50

Quote from: OakdaleFTL on 2016-03-25, 04:20:16

socialist crypto-capitalist like Clinton. Kleptocracy is not what I'd vote for…

Well... the only way of making sense together in a phrase the words socialist, crypto-capitalist and kleptocracy it's by calling the lady a sort of industrial Robin Hood... strange politics the American ones.

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Reply #876 – 2016-03-25, 14:49:04

Quote from: OakdaleFTL on 2016-03-25, 04:20:16

Good for the country, I'd say. Should Trump become president, we'd really need a Republican House and Senate — to constrain his "proclivities"…

Wow is that ever deluded. If Trump wins and a Republican Congress will be kissing his fascist ass. If Congress does remain in Republican hands, I'm thinking there is one hope, depending on his fraud charges play out. We need to find out if a president can be impeached for crimes committed before entering office.

Article 2, section 4 of the constitution says:

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The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors

You'll note it doesn't specify when the crimes have to committed

The failure of the plan is that a party afraid of Mexicans, Muslims, Chinese, some red guy with horn, gays, etc doesn't have the balls since they're afraid of everything.

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Reply #877 – 2016-03-25, 15:05:05

Christie says no more ‘blank checks’ for nearly bankrupt Atlantic City

Atlantic City is a stronghold of Trump's business, where he (Trump) regularly and safely goes bankrupt. If now the city goes bankrupt, it will destroy Trump's reputation and he will not become the president. Of course, he has no reputation to begin with, so the fact that he got as far as he got in the presidential race is not a sign of health of U.S. politics.

As always, the question in U.S. presidential elections is not who is the best, but who is the least insane.

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Reply #878 – 2016-03-26, 06:37:31

What an odd parallel Oakdale saying that you do not want to see your country going the same way as mine??

We have a far wider parliament and also a good selection of parties to put into it whereas you have 2 giant ones controlled by the Wall Street mindset. Trump has got where he has because so many people are fed up with the system you have but the downside is that the election is making your nation a bit of a world laughing stock I am afraid. Someone like Trump would get nowhere here and if he ends up the candidate for one party I have to tell you that such a step would be a disgrace. Your system is far too limited with the big two and the unlimited money and the "people" are being fooled.

I still think that the con merchant, Clinton will win and she will make little difference to the economy, military games and controlling the increasing deficit. The poor will see no change either and if you were not a citizen of the place you would be shocked and gob-smacked at the behaviour of Trump and how ludicrous he makes the country look. It is not democracy it is bordering on political farce and the people deserve much better. A clown and a woman con merchant so how sad is that?

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Reply #879 – 2016-03-26, 08:24:55

Quote from: rjhowie on 2016-03-25, 22:37:31

We have a far wider parliament and also a good selection of parties to put into it […]

And that's a virtue?

Tell me again how you feel about Salmond!
A barrel full of monkeys kind of fun, i'n'it?

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Reply #880 – 2016-03-26, 14:50:01

Don't you understand yet? Only America has screwballs, and Scotland certainly doesn't

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Reply #881 – 2016-03-27, 19:33:30

It IS a far wider parliamentary system and it includes a far wider aspect of represntation than your Wall Street controlled mechanism. So don't try to avoid the truth . Outside of two controlled parties you don't have a damn proper system hence the embarrassment of Trump and the two-faced Clinton you lot are stuck with. Face the truth boy.

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Reply #882 – 2016-03-28, 12:18:26

Winds of revolution blows from Alaska and Hawai...

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Reply #883 – 2016-03-28, 15:58:16

Didn't Bernie win Washington state too?

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Reply #884 – 2016-03-28, 17:04:40

Yes he did but I was kepting it secret to use later... kind of an unstopable wave...

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Reply #885 – 2016-03-28, 23:51:24

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Reply #886 – 2016-04-01, 10:33:36

Quote from: Belfrager on 2016-03-28, 12:04:40

Yes he did but I was kepting it secret to use later... kind of an unstopable wave...

Maybe he should be referred to as Tsunami Sanders.

Compare him to Wrestlemania Trump and you have what makes America great.

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Reply #887 – 2016-04-03, 00:43:42

As I said earlier on this election it is a wide unsatisfactory attitude with the system that has brought Trump and sanders to the public eye. It would not be so bad of a non-politician running but Trump is an utter nutcase and he is an embarrassment for the country to the world. Sanders however is doing well because he is more genuine and is touching the deep despair people have for what is a political machine. How can a modern and advanced nation have someone like him in the front line?

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Reply #888 – 2016-04-03, 01:21:45

Quote from: rjhowie on 2016-04-02, 16:43:42

Sanders however is doing well because he is more genuine and is touching the deep despair people have for what is a political machine.

You do know, RJ, that Sanders has worked for government and held elective office for 35 years?!

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Reply #889 – 2016-04-04, 07:55:12

What a negative answer that one is for goodness sake. At the same time there have been scores holding office for years who are in the control of the money barons so you prove nothing. He is outside of the limited thing that is meant to be a wide democracy but isn't.

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Reply #890 – 2016-04-06, 22:29:03

It's ironic to me that the most hated man in the US Senate (also a foreigner who is lipless) is who is now preferred as the next (R) candidate for the presidency.

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Reply #891 – 2016-04-07, 00:06:35

Come on laddie -don't be a big feartie.

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Reply #892 – 2016-04-07, 01:00:33

Quote from: Most Reverend Colonel Rebel on 2016-04-06, 14:29:03

It's ironic to me that the most hated man in the US Senate (also a foreigner who is lipless) is who is now preferred as the next (R) candidate for the presidency.

You've done well, Grasshopper! You've learned to parrot your professors — without ever giving a thought to anything yourself…
You'll probably vote for Trump.

(BTW: You don't know what the term "ironic" means…

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Would you accept, explain or reject The Donald's campaign statement following his loss in Wisconsin?

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Reply #893 – 2016-04-07, 01:34:58

Quote from: OakdaleFTL on 2016-04-07, 01:00:33

Quote from: Most Reverend Colonel Rebel on 2016-04-06, 14:29:03
It's ironic to me that the most hated man in the US Senate (also a foreigner who is lipless) is who is now preferred as the next (R) candidate for the presidency.
You've done well, Grasshopper! You've learned to parrot your professors — without ever giving a thought to anything yourself…
You'll probably vote for Trump.

(BTW: You don't know what the term "ironic" means… )

Would you accept, explain or reject The Donald's campaign statement following his loss in Wisconsin?

Wrong on all counts, and I will probably vote 3rd party once again. #NeverTrump #NeverCruz #NeverHillary

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Reply #894 – 2016-04-07, 06:50:44

Hallelujah. A good political assessment going third party.

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Reply #895 – 2016-04-07, 06:55:37

Being "besides the point" is sort-of a Howie kind-a thing, i'n't?

"Wider democracy," and all that rot.

(You weren't old enough to vote for Wallace, were you? Or Perot?)

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Reply #896 – 2016-04-07, 18:14:28

Quote from: OakdaleFTL on 2016-04-07, 06:55:37

Being "besides the point" is sort-of a Howie kind-a thing, i'n't? "Wider democracy," and all that rot.

(You weren't old enough to vote for Wallace, were you? Or Perot?)

Nope. 2008 was the first time I was old enough to vote in the Presidential elections. Registered to vote in 2006.

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Reply #897 – 2016-04-07, 23:14:53

Quote from: Most Reverend Colonel Rebel on 2016-04-06, 17:34:58

I will probably vote 3rd party once again. #NeverTrump #NeverCruz #NeverHillary

As in #NeverMatters…

Just another bloc to be used to the advantage of the Democrats or Republicans.
It's much the same in GB, but the "unwashed" never seem to catch on!

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Reply #898 – 2016-04-07, 23:48:54

Quote from: OakdaleFTL on 2016-04-07, 23:14:53

It's much the same in GB, but the "unwashed" never seem to catch on!

But you forget, the UK has "wider Democracy" and it isn't like every Prime Minister isn't since 1858 has been Labour or Conserve. Oh wait, they actually have been .

Mississippi will automatically go to the Republicans anyway. Nevada is actually a competitive state. Those southern states would vote for a clone of Hitler himself (with the same ideology) as long as he had an R by his name.

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Reply #899 – 2016-04-08, 01:06:09

Typical limited knowledge there and totally ignoring that our parliament has not just two corporate parties like the restricted ex-colonies.

Nationally in the Commons are Conservative, Labour, Liberal democrat and now the UKIP (which won the Euro Elections here). Then regional parties in Scotland, Wales, Ulster and all have MP's. In addition the standing committees of parliament have all of these parties represented on them. The government before the present one was a coalition of 2 main parties so we are of a wider democracy. You lot are stuck with the big 2 machines and no-ine else can get a look in. No political democracy comparison and that is why people over the pond are so frustrated that Trump a global laughing stock gets where he does.

It wouldn't be so bad if you had something to go on but you don't. For the tens of millions in the US it doesn't matter a damn whether Trump or Clinton gets the White House it will still be a restricted system.