The American 2016 Presidential Elections & The Ongoing American Saga

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Reply #550 – 2015-09-26, 05:12:49

Quote from: rjhowie on 2015-09-25, 22:03:48

The main negative about him is that he is embarrassing the country to the rest of the world.

So he's like America's rjhowie.

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Reply #551 – 2015-09-26, 05:47:21

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Reply #552 – 2015-09-27, 01:35:39

Shows the unfortunate general world ignorance of the ex-colonies there ersi. Someone like him would get nowehere here but therein we have a wider democracy than you and a more grown up voters You will not of course that I commented that in nutjob land Trump would be booted.

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Reply #553 – 2015-09-27, 04:15:16

Quote from: rjhowie on 2015-09-26, 17:35:39

Shows the unfortunate general world ignorance of the ex-colonies there ersi.

Would you mind, RJ, referencing ersi's comment?

Or admit that, as usual, you don't even know who you're talking to! (But, since you seldom know what you're saying, it shouldn't matter, eh?)

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Reply #554 – 2015-09-27, 19:19:21

I'm gonna let him try to weasel out of that before I point out some interesting correlations.

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Reply #555 – 2015-09-30, 19:57:26

It wouldn't be so bad Oakdale for a criticism if it was not from someone like yourself. You are a house hermit and stuck in books and that gives you the self-importance that would be lost amongst the outside and normal world. I mix with people, organisations, life in general and do try to make allowances for your lack of confidence on that outside world. I dare say it keeps you happy!

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Reply #556 – 2015-10-03, 14:47:14

The real problem with this election cycle is that it's hard to make a parody of it. This election cycle IS a parody. See below:

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK-I_LYbOcY[/video]

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Reply #557 – 2015-10-04, 02:25:34

Haha, well done. Some clever translation work all told!

I feel that there are many people in America who would like a change from just the Democrats and Republican matter but getting tired of much of what is happening. Salaries are not shooting up and the gap (which is basically acceptable as a principle) is now far wider than ever befor and in fact, rocketing. Seventeen million citizens cannot afford health insurance along with all the other strains. You cannot help but feel for them and understand why the last Hill elections total was not impressive. You do need aa wider system than you have mjsmsprt40 and the lack of it is turning many people of. There are so many decent and thinking people who are politically getting nothing valid.

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Reply #558 – 2015-10-04, 02:46:07

Quote from: rjhowie on 2015-09-30, 11:57:26

[The criticism wouldn't be so bad were it] not from someone like yourself. You are a house hermit and stuck in books and that gives you the self-importance that would be lost amongst the outside and normal world. I mix with people, organisations, life in general and do try to make allowances for your lack of confidence on that outside world.

From where do you get these outrageously misinformed tidbits, from which you've built such a woefully misguided précis of my life?

RJ, take your meds! (They're "free" ain't they?

)

Or —just once— get drunk and get laid!

(If the lady says her name is L-O-L-A, Lola…pass out! See what happens. You might like it…)

I don't really know why you have such animosity for those who, unlike yourself, can actually read books — without losing a major part of their "free" time. (I'm not the speediest of readers, but I can keep my place in a book -for years, if needed- without missing important dates or abrogating commitments…)

You imply that your travels are more extensive than mine. Hm. Haven't the extremes been crossing the Atlantic? Which peoples did you meet while doing so?

I've traveled the U.S. pretty extensively… Lived in many places. Of course, you'd want to talk about foreigners, as a dodge. But, RJ, foreigners are everywhere in the U.S. Always have been! And I've not had any particular problems because of my supposed xenophobia, linguistic inadequacy or feelings of superiority (…that really is your bugaboo, in't?

— I'll come back to this, another time). I've "traveled" at least as much as you! (And I'm younger!

)

I'm going out on a limb here: God only knows what criticism you referred to… (I'm too drunk to search…) But, kiddo, boy-o, my Scots friend: You seem often to be calling a fellow a queer, because he told you your fly is undone as you exit the Loo. (In the old sense of the word:) You're a queer duck, Howie!
Isn't it more likely that he was just trying to save you some embarrassment?

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Reply #559 – 2015-10-04, 08:09:55

Quote from: OakdaleFTL on 2015-09-24, 01:21:02

I've not entirely given up on getting good candidates into office… But we haven't had a Ronald Reagan in a very long time!

Ronald Reagan, the dumbest President since Herbert Hoover?

Ronald Reagan's world map:

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Reply #560 – 2015-10-05, 00:56:53

Hey Oakland, maybe you should have waited until one of your occasional dry sessions?!

As for travelling it is one thing going about one's own country (even though your s is large) but the average Joe over there cannot get much further as they really cannot afford it. Tell you what. When it comes to that carnival called a Presidential Election you argue with yourself to be sober on the voting day and ensure you can walk in a straigh line (will cheer you own dear man) and you will be so confident that you will be able to work out who to vote for! Maybe i could send you a crate of Irn Bru to celebrate before you slip back to normal??

On a more general note away from my distant pal, it will not make a damn difference to the legions of the ordinary, poor or suffering who wins the election. Now that IS sad.

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Reply #561 – 2015-10-08, 18:35:16

One good consolation is that Americans will not put Trump in the White Houe and I will be confident enough to congratulate that in advance. Good on you!

Hope you don't mind OakdaleFTL?

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Reply #562 – 2015-10-09, 06:39:03

it have been a while ...

so, who is Republican Candidate.

and who is Democrat candidate ?

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Reply #563 – 2015-10-09, 07:46:43

They haven't been chosen yet, by their respective conventions…

It's an odd system, I know. But there it is.

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Reply #564 – 2015-10-09, 13:19:57

They haven't had the Iowa caucuses yet. Talk about something weird in American politics, I suspect the Iowa caucuses is about as weird as it gets. I won't pretend to explain it-- I have a suspicion folk from Iowa would be hard-put to explain it. But--- they're first. After that, New Hampshire has its primaries--- which at least are understandable in normal voting procedures. Then over a period of several weeks the rest of the states have their primaries. The conventions--- where the candidates for each party are actually chosen-- come in late July/early August of next year.

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Reply #565 – 2015-10-09, 15:37:18

I don't envy your extremely long process. But on the plus side (maybe), several have dropped out, haven't they?

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Reply #566 – 2015-10-12, 03:51:34

A friend of mine who has lived with her husband (both Scots) in California for decades mentioned to me in an email that there is a Democrat would-be Presidential candidate who is a Socialist. I do recall a passing reference in a news item recently but she has said he is getting more money in that liar Clinton. Is that true?

Personally, I am not a Socialist however it seems that so many ordinary people over there are being left behind and the system is failing them for the money people and the crowds he gets says something very direct.

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Reply #567 – 2015-10-13, 10:13:23

I suppose you mean Bernie Sanders? He's more of a fairly centrist-ish social-democrat from the European perspective. Our socialist parties wouldn't be very happy with his policies.

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Reply #568 – 2015-10-13, 12:26:43

Not to worry, guys: Bernie Sanders has been in the Senate for decades, and he's as likely to be nominated as the Democrat candidate as Abe Lincoln! (Who, BTW. is still dead…)

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Reply #569 – 2015-10-13, 14:50:59

It's a part of a Scandinavian government takeover.

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3j6vRkmys4[/video]

(Mondale for President!)

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Reply #570 – 2015-10-14, 02:59:21

Yes, Sanders. Actually America could do with someone like him and the young in particular who are increasingly frustrated are loyal to him. Much of his campaign money comes from people and individual gifts but unfortunately the USA is still to stuck in the mess and corporate control. Clinton will get the nomination unfortunately instead and will make no damn difference to the millions of poor, people unable to get health insurance, poverty, homelessness, military imperialism and so on. Sad but maybe one day.

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Reply #571 – 2015-10-14, 11:25:23

Bernie Sanders., Wall Street regulates Congress!
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9QXJBjYO0o[/video]

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Reply #572 – 2015-10-15, 06:18:38

Quote from: rjhowie on 2015-10-13, 18:59:21

Yes, Sanders. Actually America could do with someone like him and the young in particular who are increasingly frustrated are loyal to him. Much of his campaign money comes from people and individual gifts

… Much like in my day, when the write-in vote was pretty impressive for Mickey Mouse!

Sang, you can't run a country of 325 million people of diverse racial and ethnic backgrounds like the Scandinavian countries… (I know, I quoted RJ! But he's hopeless!) 20+ millions, and mostly racially "pure" — which is to say, culturally akin. They can make almost anything work… If they don't allow "foreign" influences to muck it up.
Our problems are different, both in scope and perspective… (I don't think you expected that last term: But you have some expertise in the "social" sciences: Think on it, and get back to me?)

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Reply #573 – 2015-10-15, 10:24:42

Quote from: OakdaleFTL on 2015-10-15, 06:18:38

Sang, you can't run a country of 325 million people of diverse racial and ethnic backgrounds like the Scandinavian countries… (I know, I quoted RJ! But he's hopeless!) 20+ millions, and mostly racially "pure" — which is to say, culturally akin. They can make almost anything work… If they don't allow "foreign" influences to muck it up.

I don't buy that. While the American ideal may be e pluribus unum, that abstract concept describes neither reality nor a realistically attainable (or desirable) goal. Au fond the American stew is "Protestant" Anglo-Dutch, mostly inspired by Puritanism and European Enlightenment, with a few spices. The multicultural, multi-ethnic society is a liberal idée fixe to be taken with a huge grain of salt. An idée fixe which is oddly mirrored by conservatives in their fear of a decline in national unity and an unwarranted distrust in America's Americanizing capacity.

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Reply #574 – 2015-10-15, 17:06:59

Quote from: Frenzie on 2015-10-15, 10:24:42

While the American ideal may be e pluribus unum, that abstract concept describes neither reality nor a realistically attainable (or desirable) goal.

Nor is one remotely one that I claimed to support. Nor does it have anything to do with the video I posted. I have no idea why Oakdale is confusing me with Jax and that shall remain a mystery.