The American 2016 Presidential Elections & The Ongoing American Saga

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Reply #400 – 2015-07-14, 10:46:29

Quote from: krake on 2015-07-14, 07:33:29

Quote from: mjmsprt40 on 2015-07-13, 18:31:43

The show so far:

On the Democrat side, we have Hillary Clinton and a couple of trial-horses. Seriously, the contenders only make it so that Hillary's eventual winning of the Democratic nomination isn't a coronation.

On the Republican side--- some 15 contenders for nomination. Add 5 more, give them pitchforks and torches, and they're good to go as an angry, frightened mob. Make Donald Trump their spokesperson for real fun.

Of that lot, Scott Walker from Wisconsin, the governor of Louisiana (I forget his name) and-- God help us-- Jeb Bush are the only ones seriously worth considering. The rest fill out the angry, frightened mob.

We're in an awful lot of trouble.

I have to admit that I'm just a clueless person from over the pond who tries to understand something about this circus, called US electoral campaign.
Granted that the new candidates might not be any better presidents than their predecessors, what on earth makes you think that Hillary Clinton is worse than Barack Obama or Jeb Bush is worse than his brother George?
So, what's the big drama?

I won't speak for others, but in my case I really don't want to see another Bush or Clinton in the White House for a long, long, long time. Send these two dynastic families home! The idea that the President must be either a Bush or a Clinton-- with a break for Obama-- gets old fast. Especially when the families in question are marginal in everything except government power-grabbing.

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Reply #401 – 2015-07-14, 11:35:51

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Dynastic Politic

Well , it is so relieving to know that kind of thing not just happening in here .

on the other hand , i think in any kind of Election .

it will much better to Support those who mostly will win the Election .

so in the end of election , we do not have to reasoning about why " the Candidate " Lost in Election .

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Reply #402 – 2015-07-14, 16:09:52

Quote from: mjmsprt40 on 2015-07-14, 10:46:29

I won't speak for others, but in my case I really don't want to see another Bush or Clinton in the White House for a long, long, long time.

Ya'know? The more things change the more...

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzLXYENyJMQ[/video]

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Reply #403 – 2015-07-14, 18:34:50

Quote from: mjmsprt40 on 2015-07-14, 05:46:29

The idea that the President must be either a Bush or a Clinton-- with a break for Obama-- gets old fast.

Pick some alternatives.
On the Republican side...
1. Scott Walker
2. Ben Carson
3. Chris Christie
4. Mitt Romney

On the Democrat side...
1. Lincoln Chafee
2. Martin O'Malley
3. Bernie Sanders
4. Jim Webb.
5. -Clinton
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Carson won't work because there's something in the Constitution about two Black presidents in a row.

Of course, there's another option.

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Reply #404 – 2015-07-14, 21:34:57

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Pick some alternatives.
On the Republican side...
1. Scott Walker
2. Ben Carson
3. Chris Christie
4. Mitt Romney

On the Democrat side...
1. Lincoln Chafee
2. Martin O'Malley
3. Bernie Sanders
4. Jim Webb.
5. -Clinton

isnt that too many Option ?

i thought each partij only allowed to propose one pair of candidate .

A president , and Vice president .

the Partij ,
i guess... will Give that position for those that Have good respond from the Public .

because hence .. they need to got as many Voice as possible to win the election .

so it seem , it is not who will we choose as alternative .

but who will Republican nor Democrat Choose as the President and Vice President Candidate .

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Reply #405 – 2015-07-14, 22:32:44

The land of the Republic, Freedom and Whatsoever tries to create their "monarchic" dynasties. Pathetic.
Good work Mexican Cartels keep them on dope.

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Reply #406 – 2015-07-15, 02:56:59

Quote from: Sparta on 2015-07-13, 17:23:35

i know it is too early ..
but is there any Valid Survey about Who will Win the President Election in United State 2016 ?

ofc , it is a must from the Credible - trusted - Provable - surveyor , with lesser margin of error .

Predicting the outcome of an event without a causal model is voodoo science… (In other words: Statistics mean squat. Reality rules! Still, the statisticians will make a lot of money!)
There are opinions, based upon experience or ideology. But there is no way to predict the outcome of an election; people have to vote, first. And then argue about the tally.

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Reply #407 – 2015-07-15, 03:04:28

Sciences ( Natural And Social ) are so advanced Nowadays .

and Credible Surveyor , really can Predict who will Win the President election one year before the Official result announced .

not sure , how they do that ..
it seems with technique sampling , Statistics , etc .

IDC how they make money , at least they can Predict it accurately .

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Reply #408 – 2015-07-15, 04:07:23

From this side of the Pacific it appears that Mr. Trump is destroying the Republican brand. Could he? Will he?
If you told me that he is taking lessons from Tony Abbott I would believe you.

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Reply #409 – 2015-07-15, 04:18:05

Quote from: tt92 on 2015-07-14, 20:07:23

From this side of the Pacific it appears that Mr. Trump is destroying the Republican brand.

The leadership in the House and Senate have effectively done that already.

I doubt Trump can win the primary; it is, however, a disheartening possibility that he might mount a third-party run — and play the "spoiler" to a good Republican candidate. :sigh:

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Reply #410 – 2015-07-15, 06:50:04

WW2 German Waffen-SS - advertised in the US election campaign 2015/2016

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Reply #411 – 2015-07-15, 10:17:51

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WASHINGTON — Donald Trump has surged to the top of a crowded Republican presidential field, a USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll finds, but the brash billionaire is also the weakest competitor among the top seven GOP candidates against Democrat Hillary Clinton.

Just give it a little time and Trump will bump in the night.
BTW, look closely at the fifth stripe down in Krake's post...Nazi soldiers marching! Oh, my.

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Reply #412 – 2015-07-15, 23:04:31

I would love to see that clown as American President...
Or any of the others on the queue, truth to be said. There's no difference.
I just would ask for not more blacks but it seems that Americans are already taking care of that.

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Reply #413 – 2015-07-16, 01:11:05

Somehow the idea of Trump as a business leader and POTUS does not inspire great confidence in this DnD poster.

Trump is the guy who managed to lose money OWNING a casino. That takes doing. Anybody can lose money playing the games at a casino, but as everybody knows "The house always wins". So-- if you own the house and you LOSE--- how are you going to be any good at being POTUS.

I dunno---- maybe Trump plans to fire Putin?

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Reply #414 – 2015-07-16, 02:20:25

Quote from: Belfrager on 2015-07-15, 23:04:31

I just would ask for not more blacks

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Reply #415 – 2015-07-16, 20:23:27

Quote from: Belfrager on 2015-07-15, 18:04:31

I would love to see that clown as American President...

Said the man who lives in Europe's clown.

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Reply #416 – 2015-07-19, 20:28:31

Donald Trump

hmm..

The gimmick is strong with this one

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Reply #417 – 2015-07-20, 07:46:46

As is known the system is a joke and that is epitomised by Trump.

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Reply #418 – 2015-07-20, 19:08:48

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As is known the system is a joke

AFAIK , the U.S political climate is separated in two stream .
Conservative and Liberal .

if in UK , probably it is similar with Right wing and Left wing .

which pejoratively , the one always appeal to novelty .
while the other always appeal to tradition .

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Reply #419 – 2015-07-21, 03:12:04

Kind of too simple to equate a right and left here mean something different than over the pond. We have right, left and liberal so a wider choice. Mind you to state that in the US it is right v liberal is a bit wide it is Wall Street that really runs the system.No matter who wins the DC circus the tens of millions of poor over there will stil be there so doesn't matter a fig who wins.

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Reply #420 – 2015-07-21, 05:45:01

i thought , Left wing is always Liberal , and Liberal is always Left winger .

in very rare case , some groups perhaps hybrid that .

Right wing Liberal

nor Left Wing Conservative

eventhought , that mostly will be so moron as oxymoron .

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Reply #421 – 2015-07-22, 01:48:11

Well in a general sense liberal would be left leaning to be fair. The two main wings of right and left mean different things in our two countries.

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Reply #422 – 2015-07-22, 06:41:14

And different things at different times. Most conservatives in contemporary America are "classical" Liberals…

(While most Liberals are Progressives, i.e., statists relying upon managerial expertise! What could go wrong?

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Reply #423 – 2015-07-22, 07:00:28

Anything is possible. It was almost axiomatic that there could never be a Catholic president, and along came Kennedy.
Of course he wasn't VERY Catholic.
Even more unthinkable was the thought of a black president, but Lo, along came Obama.
Once again, not VERY black.
And now, mirabile dictu, the very real possibility of a female president.
Not, of course, VERY female.

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Reply #424 – 2015-07-22, 07:42:58

You've left me speechless, tt92! (I recently heard Glen Beck's substitutes comment that Ben Carson has no chance of being elected… Because "we can't have two black presidents in a row: It's in the Constitution!"

If one can't take politics facetiously, what's the point?!