Where debating everything under the sun is only the beginning

Doesn't matter which of the two giant corporate backed giant parties wins the thing is a farce. There will still be 1,000,000 losing homes, 11,000 shot dead annually, 40 million poor on food stamps, gung-ho police,spend half the globe's armaments bill, the utter farcical international stance on freedom, rights and stuff.

Small wonder we shake our heads the way the country is run inside never mind out! And I stand by my submission it does not make a damn difference to less well off or the country as a whole.

There are 2.3 million children - almost one in six - living in relative poverty in the UK, government figures show.
The Department for Work and Pensions said the proportion of children living in poverty was unchanged in 2013-14 compared with the previous year.
A child is defined as being in poverty when living in a household with an income below 60% of the UK's average.
Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith said poverty levels were the "lowest since the mid-1980s".
The DWP said the percentage of children in relative low income households remained at 17%.
'Deeply concerning'

On Monday this week, my boyfriend came home clutching a letter and looking shell-shocked. Our landlords, a housing association that rents us our flat privately, had taken the decision to raise our rent by £400 a month to bring it in line with the market. Fair enough, some might say, but it means that our home – the home that we have made together – has gone from being just about affordable to not being a viable option.

In the midst of the UK’s current housing crisis, it was, I suppose, only to be expected. It’s difficult to express the emotions that you experience when you suddenly realise that what you thought was your home could be swept out from underneath your feet. Now I know that a rented home is never yours.

Oh the guardian again! That item shows their political leaning exceptionally well. Nationally in the Welfare State families were able to have benefits up to £25,000 a year. Rent, child allowance and so on. A ridiclusous amount and the government is right to reduce it to £23,000 maximum. Tax payments were reduced and tax is not paid until over £10,500 nd planed to be £12,000. So even many more will pay no tax. It is easy of course to pick something out and give the impression of a wholesale bad situation when that is utter bunkum. Many instead of the Welfare State being as a safety net use it as an alternative to working. Those that often scoff atthe Daily mail can equally be scoffed at on the Guardian. As I said a while ago it was Midlands based originally and called the 'Manchester Guardian' and supported the Liberal Party no it is Labour leaning. The one good news about that newspaper is it's steady decline and a positive.

Oh the guardian again! That item shows their political leaning exceptionally well. Nationally in the Welfare State families were able to have benefits up to £25,000 a year. Rent, child allowance and so on. A ridiclusous amount and the government is right to reduce it to £23,000 maximum.

It's 'ridiclusous' to selectively pick on the poor, although it's probably universal. Why, it even happens here.

Jimbro has earlier touched on the massive military bill across the water which is very immoral and contradictory and it kind of ignores the plight of the less well off citizenry. That is sad and should not happen of course.

Back to the 2016 race and why I'd rather have Putin as president.

Krake, you and I don't agree on much but this is one thing we do agree on. Trump is his own worst enemy, every time he opens his mouth something foolish comes out.