Where debating everything under the sun is only the beginning

I deliberatley was being generally specific to save words. And to take the simplicity even further let me make this clear.

The comfortable off are generally superficially content because they are cumfy. That money is spent on being world imperialistic and which you cannot afford is ridiculous.I made it very clear and obvious that more effort should be made on the large numbers who are on the back burner. No homes, little money and struggling. No Welfare state so they just go on suffering and the country should be facing that instead of spending half the world military business bill. Your country is far more in control of the corporates which is as plain as the nose on your faces and just to acknowledge part of the failings is not good enough. Interfering across the world doing in any country that does not conform to your way of doing things and so on. Just look what is spent at elections by the big two and how does that help the poor and needy?  The racial question is so damn obvious and contradicts everything that the country is MEANT to stand for as well. Every time the obvious is shown the tendency is to try and body-swerve to somewhere else but nowhere bis more at the top of hypocrisy than the USA.

Being more specific is a cosy throw away really and that the large numbers of the poor and the picking on blacks by an increasing Police State mind is there for all to see. Poor or black in the land of the free and home of the brave make it very abundantly clear that if white and cumfy just ignore those two things.

Instead of marching all over the world then following that up by the money barons shows the flaws up even more.  Democracy? Don't make me laugh! The Democrats are the lesser of the two evils and full democracy is then restricted because the money men will decide what is happening not the voters.

RJ.....might I suggest..........come here, become a citizen, & at election time vote for those that see it your way, but until then, find yourself up in the cheap seats bawling your eyes out about things you have no control over whatsoever except to use your freedom of speech here so a few dozen people might read about your personal frustrations. 

But I thought the commie wanted to move to Russia since thing are so much better there?

and the blacks have a hellhole existence.

The Two of You

ou are keeping up the ex-colonists way of being unable to answer by dancing as is the usual. Scotland gets more from the Exchquer than it gives in taxes. Whole modern estates including the one I gave so much voluntary service in are excellent housing, rent subsidies, great welfare payments

. Scotland gets more from the Exchquer than it gives in taxes.

Are you saying the Scots are a nation of spongers?
Are you recommending  this way of life to other countries?
Are you claiming such a situation is sustainable?

There needs to be a kindergarten section here for tt92. Maybe we should call the Irish spongers as they were not able even as an independent country able to look after themselves. They only got somewhere due to joining the EU (couldn't support themselves even after decades) and pushing the begging bowl to Europe and the EU. The bigger countries in the EU like Britain, France, Germany subsidise smaller places like Ireland. And even then the Irish messed up. There's no Celtic Tiger now it is more like a pussy cat. We in Britain had to give them a 7 billion pound loan so do try and use common sense. There are spongers everywhere so include your own place.  Do try and think first.

Allegations of homosexuality...
During the 1690s, rumours grew of William's alleged homosexual inclinations and led to the publication of many satirical pamphlets by his Jacobite detractors. He did have several close, male associates, including two Dutch courtiers to whom he granted English titles: Hans Willem Bentinck became Earl of Portland, and Arnold Joost van Keppel was created Earl of Albemarle. These relationships with male friends, and his apparent lack of more than one mistress, led William's enemies to suggest that he might prefer homosexual relationships. William's modern biographers, however, still disagree on the veracity of these allegations, with many contending that they were just figments of his enemies' imaginations, and others suggesting there may have been some truth to the rumours.
Bentinck's closeness to William did arouse jealousies in the Royal Court at the time, but most modern historians doubt that there was a homosexual element in their relationship. William's young protege, Keppel, aroused more gossip and suspicion, being 20 years William's junior and strikingly handsome, and having risen from being a royal page to an earldom with some ease. Portland wrote to William in 1697 that "the kindness which your Majesty has for a young man, and the way in which you seem to authorise his liberties ... make the world say things I am ashamed to hear". This, he said, was "tarnishing a reputation which has never before been subject to such accusations". William tersely dismissed these suggestions, however, saying, "It seems to me very extraordinary that it should be impossible to have esteem and regard for a young man without it being criminal."

. Unfinished buildings with empty cranes on them, rows of half built homes on housing estates,

And now even more recently as I said and you ignored they got a 7 billion loan from the UK at a reasonable rate.

Quote from: rjhowie on 2015-03-22, 18:55:52

And now even more recently as I said and you ignored they got a 7 billion loan from the UK at a reasonable rate.

International finance is beyond me, but the US borrows (largely from China), the UK borrows, Scotland borrows, Russia borrows and China borrows, so it should be no surprise that Ireland borrows.

Please don't try to explain any of this to me. It won't help.