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Reply #175
I support the use of low-grade, low-yield (nothing more than say 500 megatons)  Nuclear weapons in the Middle East against ISIS & their clones.

Boots on the ground post-attack to work the oil rigs, supply dirty, non-sterile gauze pads to ISIS women to use on their poor lil burnt boys, & to monitor radium contamination only.  

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Reply #176
I am groaning at the cirus that passes for an election over there. That so many red necks, oops, Republican party storm troopers are so keen on gung-ho and wars only adds to the joke. Anyway they have a problem with the minority lots and won't win. As for the Democrats they will as there isn't any great choice for Americans so stuck with what we are excusing as the lesser of two evils. With the ever increasing debt the only way out will be when the whole thing collapses and then a third way. Revolution No2 by the people this time not the money lot like the first one.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #177
How to turn a discussion into a clown show. Good work, Sir!

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Reply #178
Good work, Sir!

Indeed it is, but he's limited in his options on these forums. So I'll go ahead and book his comedy act on the Strip and we'll make millions together :yes: Of course, I'll take care the airline reservations and hire a limo to pick him up from the airport. I'm thinking an SUV-type would be a good choice so he gets a chance to stretch his legs after such a long flight. No need to thank me, Howie. I consider it an investment.

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Reply #179
Indeed it is, but he's limited in his options on these forums

Do you mean, he has to speak English…? :)
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Reply #180
From somebody's point of view, everybody else sounds goofy.

From the point of view of an Englishman, Americans don't really speak English.

From an American point of view, Scotsmen sound funny.

Would you like to learn to speak Australian?

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG0v9tZStAk[/video]

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Reply #181
So, you think Hillary can be trusted.........you want Hillary (Billary) to be the most powerful person in office, & lead the United States of America   ----  US!!??

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5Wo5jXVYjk[/VIDEO]


Riiiiiiiiiiight....

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Reply #182
The thing that bothers me most about a Clinton run for the White House is that, if Hillary looks like she wins the Democrat nomination, the Republicans can be counted on to make the worst choice possible in an attempt to defeat her.

Look for a Sarah Palin Republican nomination if Hillary gets the Democrat nod.... and if that happens, God help us all.
What would happen if a large asteroid slammed into the Earth?
According to several tests involving a watermelon and a large hammer, it would be really bad!

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Reply #183
Hillary has problems.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The email practices of Hillary Rodham Clinton, who used a private account exclusively for official business when she was secretary of state, grew more intriguing with the disclosure Wednesday that the computer server she used traced back to her family's New York home, according to Internet records reviewed by The Associated Press.

The unusual practice of a Cabinet-level official running her own email server would have given Clinton — who is expected to run for president in the 2016 campaign — significant control over limiting access to her message archives.

It also would complicate the State Department's legal responsibilities in finding and turning over official emails in response to any investigations, lawsuits or public records requests. The department would be the position of accepting Clinton's assurances she was surrendering everything required that was in her control.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/b78ba433af3a45209668f745158d994c/clinton-ran-homebrew-computer-system-official-emails

Whatever Hillary does, Palin isn not going to be the Republican candidate. Why?
1. The Republicans who matter don't want her.
2. Speaking fees. "Sarah Palin will speak at West Hills College in Lemoore, Calif. this May, reports ABC Local News -- and she'll receive $115,000 to do so."

Ex pols can make a fortune speaking.
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President Reagan once got $2 million from a Japanese manufacturing company for two 20-minute speeches. Bill Clinton collected some $40 million in speaking fees during the six years following his presidency. And George W. Bush told reporters he expected to make a "ridiculous" amount of money on the speaker's circuit when he left office.
That from http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/sarah-palin-earned-estimated-12-million-july/story?id=10352437

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Reply #184
[glow=black,2,300]Foreign governments gave millions to foundation while Clinton was at State Dept.[/glow]


Quote from:      WASHINGTON POST     http://wapo.st/18QZehN    
The Clinton Foundation accepted millions of dollars from seven foreign governments during Hillary Rodham Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state, including one donation that violated its ethics agreement with the Obama administration, foundation officials disclosed Wednesday......continued


[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTCu6-_uW0s[/VIDEO]


   


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Reply #185
[glow=black,2,300]Benghazi .......... We Will Never Forget .......... Hillary Will Wish We Did![/glow]

[shadow=grey,right]eMAILS.......eMAILS.......eMAILS[/shadow]

[shadow=grey,right]And she's got the balls to want to be President....................Riiiiiiiight[/shadow]




What difference does it make, well Hillary........it makes a BIG, BIG difference.


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WASHINGTON – State Department emails released through a lawsuit by Judicial Watch show then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton knew while the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. compound in Benghazi was under way that it was being carried out by terrorists.

Clinton blamed the attack on “rage and violence over an awful Internet video” when she spoke at a ceremony at Andrews Air Force Base on Sept. 14, 2014, as the remains of the four Americans, including Ambassador Christopher Stevens, were returned to the United States.

The emails were made public Thursday by the Washington, D.C., legal watchdog group.

“These emails leave no doubt that Hillary Clinton’s closest advisers knew the truth about the Benghazi attack from almost the moment it happened,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

“And it is inescapable that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton knowingly lied when she planted the false story about ‘inflammatory’ material being posted on the Internet,’” Fitton said.

He said the “contempt for the public’s right to know is evidenced not only in these documents, but also in the fact that we had to file a lawsuit in federal court to obtain them.”

“The Obama gang’s cover-up continues to unravel, despite its unlawful secrecy and continued slow-rolling of information,” Fitton said. “Congress, if it ever decides to do its job, cannot act soon enough to put Hillary Clinton, Cheryl Mills and every other official in these emails under oath.”

Fitton criticized the current House Select Committee investigation on Benghazi headed by Rep. Trey Gowdy, R- S.C.

“Never once has Gowdy or the House Select Committee asked Judicial Watch to turn over the many bombshell documents Judicial Watch has obtained from the Obama administration by FOIA request, “ Fitton told WND.

“I would have thought a serious congressional investigation into Benghazi would have started with the documents we had, since Judicial Watch has led in exposing the White House cover-up,” he said.

On Sept. 11, 2012, at 4:07 p.m. EST, as the Benghazi attack was going on, Maria Sand, then a special assistant to Clinton, forwarded an email from the State Department’s Operations Center titled, “U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi is Under Attack,” to Cheryl Mills, then chief-of staff to Secretary Clinton, as well as Jacob Sullivan, then-deputy chief-of-staff for policy, Joseph McManus, then-Hillary Clinton’s executive assistant, and other special assistants in Clinton’s office.

The email read:

    The Regional Security Officer reports the diplomatic mission is under attack. Tripoli reports approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well. Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and four COM [Chief of Mission] personnel are in the compound safe haven. The 17th of February militia is providing security support.

Then, at 4:38 p.m. Eastern, State Department Foreign Service Officer Lawrence Randolph forwarded Mills, Sullivan and McManus an email from Scott Bultrowicz, the former director of the Diplomatic Security Service, one of four senior State Department officials who was ousted in December 2012 after the publication of the State Department’s Advisor Review Board final report of the Benghazi attack.

With the subject line “Attack on Benghazi,” it read:


    DSCC [Diplomatic Security Command Center] received a phone call from [REDACTED] in Benghazi, Libya initially stating that 15 armed individuals were attacking the compound and trying to gain entrance. The Ambassador is present in Benghazi and currently is barricaded within the compound. There are no injuries at this time and it is unknown what the intent of the attackers is. At approximately 1600 DSCC received word from Benghazi that individuals had entered the compound. At 1614 RSO advised the Libyans had set fire to various buildings in the area, possibly the building that houses the Ambassador [REDACTED] is responding and taking fire.

Nearly seven hours later, at 12:04 a.m. on Sept. 12, Randolph sent an email with the subject line “FW: Update 3: Benghazi Shelter Location “Also Under Attack,” to Mills, Sullivan and McManus that had several updates about the Benghazi attack:

    I just called Ops and they said the DS command center is reporting that the compound is under attack again. I am about to reach out to the DS Command Center.

The email also contains a chain of earlier email updates:

    Sept. 11, 2012, at 11:57 p.m. EST. Email: “(SBU) DS Command reports the current shelter location for COM personnel in Benghazi is under mortar fire. There are reports of injuries to COM staff.”

    Sept. 11, 2012, 6:06 p.m. EST. (Subject: “Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack (SBU): “(SBU) Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and call for an attack on Embassy Tripoli”

    Sept. 11, 2012, 4:54 p.m. EST: “Embassy Tripoli reports the firing at the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi has stopped and the compound has been cleared. A response team is on site to locate COM personnel.”

The State Department emails released Thursday by Judicial Watch reveal the first official confirmation of the death of Ambassador Stevens.

On Sept. 12, 2012, at 3:22 a.m. EST, Senior Watch Officer Andrew Veprek forwarded an email to numerous State Department officials, which was later forwarded to Mills and McManus, with the subject line “Death of Ambassador Stevens in Benghazi.”

It read:

    Embassy Tripoli confirms the death of Ambassador John C. (Chris) Stevens in Benghazi. His body has been recovered and is at the airport in Benghazi.

Two hours later, McManus forwarded the news of Ambassador Stevens’ death to officials in the State Department Legislative Affairs office with instructions not to “forward to anyone at this point.”

Despite her three top staff members being informed that a terrorist group had claimed credit for the attack, Clinton, issued an official statement, also produced to Judicial Watch, claiming the attack may have been “a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet.”

http://www.wnd.com/2015/02/hillary-knew-emails-during-benghazi-attack-reported-terrorism/#8usK2WrEf80pc9X5.99



And the beat goes on ... and on ... and on ..... and will continue to go on until
America knows everything she did, when she did it, & why she did it!





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Reply #186
[glow=black,2,300]BREAKING NEWS:[/glow]

[glow=green,2,300]House committee subpoenas e-mails from  ALL Clinton’s account(s)[/glow]


Quote from:      WASHINGTON POST       http://wapo.st/1wWwk5c  
A House investigative committee issued subpoenas late Wednesday afternoon to the State Department, seeking a deeper look into former secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton’s nearly exclusive use of personal e-mails to do her official business during her tenure, the committee confirmed Wednesday.

The House Select Committee on Benghazi, which first discovered Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail based on a home server in its inquiry into a fatal 2012 terrorist attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, is asking for all e-mails related to the attack from all Clintonemail.com accounts and any other staff members’ personal accounts.

“The Select Committee on Benghazi today issued subpoenas for all communications of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton related to Libya and to the State Department for other individuals who have information pertinent to the investigation,” according to a statement by committee spokesman Jamal Ware. “The Committee also has issued preservation letters to internet firms informing them of their legal obligation to protect all relevant documents.”.......... continued


[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIvTzH4S_yE[/VIDEO]



Hillary will be like a goose being sucked through a jet engine! 


http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-clinton-emails-subpoena-20150304-story.html

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/03/04/benghazi-terror-attack-probe-wants-access-to-hillary-clinton-emails-from-private-server/


http://www.ibtimes.com/hillary-clinton-e-mails-subpoenaed-house-committee-investigating-benghazi-1836504


http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/Benghazi+terror+attack+probe+subpoena+access+Hillary+Clinton+emails/10861985/story.html


http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/7/71/414201/benghazi-panel-issue-subpoenas-hillary-clinton-emails


http://www.calgaryherald.com/Benghazi+terror+attack+probe+subpoena+access+Hillary+Clinton+emails/10861985/story.html


"It doesn't matter if the server was in Foggy Bottom, Chappaqua, or Bora-Bora," House Speaker John Boehner said. "The Benghazi Select Committee needs to see all of these emails, because the American people deserve all of the facts."




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Reply #187

Hillary has problems.


No Jim, [glow=blue,2,300]Hillary's in deep, deep, deep stank [/glow] .......... getting deeper by the minute!

Couldn't happen to a finer skank  'Lady'  ........ I bet she's thinkin' right about now .... Karma sux, don't it! 


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Reply #188
Whatever side Americans are on in the Democrats and Republican matter it did not give a very good PR to the world on the visit from that mouth from Tel Aviv.  Many sensible people over there will be unhappy at the portrayal to the world and one cannot help but feel for them.

Maybe the Tel Aviv storm trooper could be a little bit more honest about israeli H bombs as a break from accusing Iran.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #189
Israel is in a precarious position in the region, but Netanyahu is over the top. Hopefully that Republican stunt  won't work in Netanyahu's election bid. He's favored by 44% of the electorate, just under Obama's 49%. He gained a couple of points after his visit, but that will evaporate.

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Reply #190
Totally agree and that Israeli big headed mouth of a PM is a great advert for militant Zionism. I think it was quite disrespectful using another country that not only supports whoever is in power in Israel but funds it to exist. Totally disgusting how he treated America it's Head of State and it's own political system. Apart from the disrespect but the arrogant using and that the idiots on the Hill especially Republicans played a full part in it.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #191
“The Select Committee on Benghazi today issued subpoenas for all communications of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton related to Libya and to the State Department for other individuals who have information pertinent to the investigation,” according to a statement by committee spokesman Jamal Ware. “The Committee also has issued preservation letters to internet firms informing them of their legal obligation to protect all relevant documents.”..........

Translation: The GOP already knows it has no one that win the election.  Really, who doesn't think this is political? But it's a bad strategy. What will be their other move? Play up issues that "energize" the Republican base, but mean nothing to about 60% of the rest of the electorate and get other groups as energized as their base? The result, of course will be defeat. In a battle between Jeb and Hilary, Jeb does have a chance, despite the idiocy of his Republican colleagues. (using Benghazi as an election issue? Are they fucking serious?) But that all depends on his ability to survive the GOP primaries, which sane Republicans haven't in recent years (Witness Romney, he all but had multiple personality disorder on the issues. McCain, let's just flush the American auto industry down the drain. Yeah, that will be real good for the economy, dimshit. Palin? Where does one start?)


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Reply #193
Well I am bushed at that spread.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #194
I don't expect the Republicans to win unless they scan the mental hospitals. Hilary Clinton on th the other side, hhhhm. I seen a reference to another Democrat woman (her name escapes me) as being popular. Clinton would be one bossy and one neb of a painful woman.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #195
The electoral farce will never end until politicians are not hanged.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #196
Our only hope is if Canada takes us in as The Southern Province.

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Reply #197

I don't expect the Republicans to win unless they scan the mental hospitals. Hilary Clinton on th the other side, hhhhm. I seen a reference to another Democrat woman (her name escapes me) as being popular. Clinton would be one bossy and one neb of a painful woman.


Feast yer eyes:

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=798AS1XcAkQ[/VIDEO]

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Reply #198
I did laugh earlier at Sanguinemoon rabbiting on about me as a limited corner type person. Thought it especially amusing considering he has blinkers himself in thinking the land of nut jobs is above being challenged in it's imperial pomposity!

Maybe at some time in history the political system in the ex-colonies was trying to serve the people - well at least in principle but it no longer works as intended. The 2 giants have got the damn thing so carved up then any other group might as well go to sleep. Unlimited money spent by BOTH sides. Corporate big money barons on BOTH sides and at the last Presidential I think the Democrats outdid the nutty republicans. The system no longer serves the wider population hence just over 50% voting at the last Hill election. If you are comfortable and a reasonable income then you will smugly reckon things are not really that bad in the system but for the tens of millions, yes note the number that is not the case and between them and the very deep and bad racial matters it illustrates the same system only benefits the cumfy folk.

Time and time people quote the Constitution but why should they need to considering what it laid down? Many have to literally fight for their basic rights, privacy on the phone, mobile phone, net or whatever. The government very subtly can by pas that same constitution through it's spy agencies like especially the NSA.  In a sense I can feel for all those who have been brought up with things passed on to them about the greatness, freedoms and stuff then if they do not have much money they are left to rot and none more so than the legions of black people. To those of us fortunate to live in the real world the party conventions are a laugh and not much morte than funny if meant to be serious politics. It is just a big damn fun party and takes no real note of the racial badness nor the plight of millions of poorer Americans.

I have oft said that the Democrats are the lesser of two evils as the 2 big boys are the only ones allowed a look in and my comments have been a bit watered down as some of the things Obama has done have been more than GW Bush did! A complete overhaul is needed for the present day and to deal with the vast poor, under-privileged the sectioning of the blacks and the whole matter of representation.  Less spent on the military machine that puts big dollars in the military corporate industry and kills many young Americans who do not have the education or skills so head for the army.  There are many millions of decent, hard working and family people over there who are being ripped off not only by the behind-the-scenes corporate string pullers but as system that is not serving the whole country.  :(

Reducing the nonsense of spending half the world's military bill could face the challenge of the mass numbers of poor and losing out and i think it is a crying shame that so many decents are being served by a procedure that is far from what those founders wanted and was never like it is today .
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #199
There are many millions of decent, hard working and family people over there who are being ripped off not only by the behind-the-scenes corporate string pullers but as system that is not serving the whole country.   :(

Sir Howie, you're the king of generalities and innuendo, and I'm sure that you're right to some extent. I'm retired, own a house and a car and have $$$$$.$$ in the bank and investments. That's not true of all Americans, but it's also not true of all Brits, either.



Please be more specific.