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Reply #150

Nice to see your own equivalents of Upstairs downstairs aristocrats are still active!

We do have our would-be nobles and you have your actual inbred European ones. I'm not hatin', though.[glow=green,2,300] Just because a guy's sister is also his aunt is no reason to disqualify him from House of Lords.[/glow] The mental retardation from centuries of this going on just makes them 37.297 percent funnier :yes:


           

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Reply #151
O do make allowances for you being a redneck ex-colonsist and therefor expected to be ignorant of any other poltical system. However I did point out that the Lords cannot kick a Bill out and that hereditary peers involvement was greatly reduced and replaced by those made a peerr for only their lifetime not hereditary. The House does do good work due to it's experience and a wide range on the benches. It is also as I said too widfer represented from the ordinary backgrounds such as trade Union leaders who are retired, etc.

What  those in the republican Party circus who think they are intelligent is to reform the Progressive Party and give people a wider choice. The terrible poor number of votes on the Hill shows you have a deepening system problem. As for these "Conventions" they look daft from outside and certainly not conferences as elsewhere in the world with better systems.

The only trouble with brining back the US Progressive party is that with so few sensibles these days in the Republicans corner they would not be missed from there.
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Reply #152
The only trouble with brining back the US Progressive party

What the hell are you talking about? Who wants to bring back a Left-wing minor party that disbanded in in 1955?  Or do you mean the one that went defunct in 1919 (and whose members in Congress left for the Republican party in 1918) or the one that lived for one year 1924? Who's trying to bring any of those parties back? 

Hrm, I did find a Progressive Party site from Oregon. Note that comparison of the Republican Party, the Democratic Party and themselves is incorrect on several issues.

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Reply #153
Yes the earlier one and most of them actually came from the Republican Party as they thought it too extreme! Anything outside of Rockwell is too left over the pond!  Haha, what funny people. More and more are getting teed of as the system is no longer for the people, etc, etc, it is for those in the comfort zone and stuff everyone else. This situation has become more obvious and you should ask why so many stayed at home at the recent elections. kind of says something.

There was a general time when many could say the Democrats were with a sigh lesser of two evils but the present administration has shown even that to be a farce. Whether it be increased drones and killings, creating global problems, etc. The American people deserve a more mature and able system for the present day instead of the big two doing what they damn well like and spending unlimited sums from corporates, etc. Even that two-face with a statue, Lincoln came back today he would be scratching his head at what went wrong. As for Washington there should be a speed limit at his grave to control the revolving speed
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Reply #154
Forget the old days. ISIS has just made a declaration. Looks like Biden will be in office soon.

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"Know, oh Obama, that we will reach America. Know also that we will cut off your head in the White House and transform America into a Muslim province." 


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Reply #156

Yes the earlier one and most of them actually came from the Republican Party as they thought it too extreme! Anything outside of Rockwell is too left over the pond!  Haha, what funny people. More and more are getting teed of as the system is no longer for the people, etc, etc, it is for those in the comfort zone and stuff everyone else. This situation has become more obvious and you should ask why so many stayed at home at the recent elections. kind of says something.

There was a general time when many could say the Democrats were with a sigh lesser of two evils but the present administration has shown even that to be a farce. Whether it be increased drones and killings, creating global problems, etc. The American people deserve a more mature and able system for the present day instead of the big two doing what they damn well like and spending unlimited sums from corporates, etc. Even that two-face with a statue, Lincoln came back today he would be scratching his head at what went wrong. As for Washington there should be a speed limit at his grave to control the revolving speed

tl;dr

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtU3vUOa2sw[/video]

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Reply #157
It looks like we can take one card off the table anyway. Mitt Romney said he's not going to run. Rush Limbaugh suggests the reason why Mitt isn't running is because all the big money went somewhere else. He may be right. Mitt may have realized he couldn't hope to win without heavy financial backing (who are we trying to kid, he couldn't win anyway) and if the big money sponsors don't support him he's finished before he gets started. So, he's out as of this morning.

So, now Jimbro still has his hopes set on a Sarah Palin run. If she wins the Republican primary, the party's hopes of securing the White House are done for. I can see this happening especially if Hillary wins the Democratic nomination. The Republicans will believe they need Palin to stop the Clinton bandwagon, and by choosing one of the worst possible candidates they will instead propel Clinton to her first term as President.

Republican suicide missions have happened before, how do you think Obama got his Senate seat so easily? The Illinois Republican Party did just about the most ham-handed things they could find to do, all but guaranteeing Obama would win against his Republican opponent.
What would happen if a large asteroid slammed into the Earth?
According to several tests involving a watermelon and a large hammer, it would be really bad!

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Reply #158
Republican suicide missions have happened before, how do you think Obama got his Senate seat so easily? The Illinois Republican Party did just about the most ham-handed things they could find to do, all but guaranteeing Obama would win against his Republican opponent.

Correction, please:
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[Jack Ryan's] 2004 campaign for the Senate, against future-president Barack Obama, received widespread media attention for the disclosure of sealed custody documents stemming from his divorce from actress Jeri Ryan. The unsealing of those documents ultimately led to Ryan's withdrawal from the campaign.
(from Wikipedia)

Team Obama had used this tactic successfully before…
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Reply #159
Republican suicide missions have happened before, how do you think Obama got his Senate seat so easily?

Or became president, and got re-elected in 2012. The entire GOP primary season was one big suicide mission both times, including cynically choosing Palin as VP mainly by virtue of being a woman.

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Reply #160

Republican suicide missions have happened before, how do you think Obama got his Senate seat so easily? The Illinois Republican Party did just about the most ham-handed things they could find to do, all but guaranteeing Obama would win against his Republican opponent.

Correction, please:
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[Jack Ryan's] 2004 campaign for the Senate, against future-president Barack Obama, received widespread media attention for the disclosure of sealed custody documents stemming from his divorce from actress Jeri Ryan. The unsealing of those documents ultimately led to Ryan's withdrawal from the campaign.
(from Wikipedia)

Team Obama had used this tactic successfully before…


Did I lie? Take a look at what the Illinois Republicans did next: Instead of nominating the runner-up, who might have stood a chance, or holding a special election, again something that might have stood a chance, they went and got a guy from Maryland to come to Illinois and run against Obama. The only thing the carpet-bagger had going for him was that he was the same skin color as Obama. Nobody bought the ruse, especially not people in the Black community. Ordinary Republicans were angered at their party leadership and the way they mishandled the whole business so they didn't vote that year.

Gotta hand it to Illinois Republicans. Where else can you get driven from nomination that you've won because you wanted to have sex with your own wife? (OK, admittedly kinky sex--- but with his own wife.)
What would happen if a large asteroid slammed into the Earth?
According to several tests involving a watermelon and a large hammer, it would be really bad!

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Reply #161
Gotta hand it to Illinois Republicans. Where else can you get driven from nomination that you've won because you wanted to have sex with your own wife? (OK, admittedly kinky sex--- but with his own wife.)

If only that was the end of the story.


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On June 22, 2004, after receiving a report from the referee, Judge Schnider released the files that were deemed consistent with the interests of Ryan's young child. In those files, Jeri Ryan alleged that Jack Ryan had wanted her to perform sexual acts with him in public in sex clubs in New York, New Orleans, and Paris, although no sex occurred. Jeri Ryan described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling."
That won't fly in the party that tries to claim all "moral" issues.

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Reply #162
Nobody ever said it wasn't a wee bit strange. Well, on second thought Jack Ryan tried to say there was nothing embarrassing in the documents--- before the whole thing blew open and we could see just how embarrassing it really was. Jack Ryan was doomed from that moment. The Republican Party might still have salvaged the election if they had shown just a little bit of sense in choosing the replacement-- but sadly, it was not to be. They made a choice that fooled no one and angered doggone near everyone.
What would happen if a large asteroid slammed into the Earth?
According to several tests involving a watermelon and a large hammer, it would be really bad!

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Reply #163
That won't fly in the party that tries to claim all "moral" issues.

As usual, you "read" only to pick out bits and pieces that "support" your partisan view, Sang. But that's how you roll!

Isn't Sandoval your state's governor? (A little frustrating, no? :) )
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The Republican Party might still have salvaged the election if they had […a time machine!]

No, mjm, there was no chance of success in a general election with another candidate at that late date…
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Reply #164
The Republican Party might still have salvaged the election if they had shown just a little bit of sense in choosing the replacement-- but sadly, it was not to be. They made a choice that fooled no one and angered doggone near everyone.

Keyes sounds real political genius in that election. He tried to claim Jesus Christ wouldn't vote for Obama (way to alienate African American churchs) and Mary Cheney was selfish hedonist for being a lesbian and therefore reduce support from Republican top brass. I don't feel like spending a lot of time looking into the gory details, but even a quick glance at Wikipedia tells me he was doomed from the get-go.

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Reply #165
Well---- Jesus probably wouldn't vote for Obama. Or his opponent, for that matter. Jesus is King of kings and Lord most high--- why would He vote for lesser people to challenge Him?
What would happen if a large asteroid slammed into the Earth?
According to several tests involving a watermelon and a large hammer, it would be really bad!

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Reply #166
Being He already knows the outcome (all of them actually) why would He bother?

The      devil couldn't tempt Him, do you think a lowly          demonrat  could?
  

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Reply #167
Well---- Jesus probably wouldn't vote for Obama.

Well if you remember, he didn't have much in way of positive feedback for either the Pharisees nor Sadducees. So why he have any for the Democrats and Republicans.
Being He already knows the outcome (all of them actually) why would He bother?

If he would or not might be a interesting discussion. He certainly knew he was going to be crucified, but it wouldn't have any special divine power to realize the religious authorities were moving against him. Within the Bible itself, there are indications that Jesus was not omniscient. Matthew 24:36, Jesus indicated that he didn't know when the Second Coming would be. At times, he incorrectly said it would during the lifetime of his contemporary believers. He didn't know that Lazarus had died and had to be told. I'm sure there are other examples, and apologetics for them.

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Reply #168
Jaybro 20:20
"Father, Why do they deal in the batshit crazy?"
"Because they know not better, my son."

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Reply #169

Well---- Jesus probably wouldn't vote for Obama.

Well if you remember, he didn't have much in way of positive feedback for either the Pharisees nor Sadducees. So why he have any for the Democrats and Republicans.

Yeah, not much of turn the other cheek, judge not, love thy neighbour etc. going around in america's political caste. Especially the overtly christian ones. Then again, they follow Republican Jesus, not the biblical one ( who would probably go with Sanders if he absolutely had to pick one ).

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Reply #170
Ongoing American Saga.
This is not not a saga, it's a plague.
A matter of attitude.



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Reply #173
Yes it matters as they are fundamental nutjobs and could damage the world.  :(
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Reply #174
How right you are Sir Howie. How's this for bad news.
From the New York Times.
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Nearly three-quarters of Republicans now favor sending ground troops into combat against the Islamic State, according to a CBS News poll last week. And in Iowa and South Carolina, two early-voting states, Republicans said military action against the group was, alongside economic matters, the most important issue in the 2016 election, according to an NBC survey released last week.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/25/us/politics/foreign-policy-ascends-as-issue-for-republican-presidential-contenders.html