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Reply #76
Science can go very wrong.

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Reply #77
Which Science ?

Naturwissenschaften , or Sozialwissenschaften

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Reply #78
Nothing I do these days requires computing power. I used to do spreadsheets back in the olden days on a desktop and also on an Apple 2E. Speed would have helped.

(Sorry to be so late with this… But my first "spreadsheet" was VisiCalc — on a Sinclair/Timex 2kb (upgraded to 16kb…) machine. It was a long time ago.)
But you're wrong, Jaybro: The resolution of the screen you squint to see, the "swipes" you make to accomplish what Ctrl-key combinations used to? Those many new "techniques" and "realistic presentations" require a considerable amount of "computational" power…
Your mistake, sir, is in thinking that such is merely arithmetical. You don't know — from computation!
(Computers don't know from math… :) )
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Reply #79
This might help some of our posters. Can you think of a candidate?
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IT'S heady stuff. The world's first attempt to transplant a human head will be launched this year at a surgical conference in the US. The move is a call to arms to get interested parties together to work towards the surgery.

The idea was first proposed in 2013 by Sergio Canavero of the Turin Advanced Neuromodulation Group in Italy. He wants to use the surgery to extend the lives of people whose muscles and nerves have degenerated or whose organs are riddled with cancer. Now he claims the major hurdles, such as fusing the spinal cord and preventing the body's immune system from rejecting the head, are surmountable, and the surgery could be ready as early as 2017.

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Reply #80

This might help some of our posters. Can you think of a candidate?
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The world's first attempt to transplant a human head will be launched this year at a surgical conference in the US.


Is it transplanting a head or a body?

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Reply #81
Is it transplanting a head or a body?

It applies to any transplant... :)
I don't want this body around me, says the heart... and many times nothing convinces them.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #82
The world's first attempt to transplant a human head will be launched this year at a surgical conference in the US.

The technology required to reattach a severed spinal cord has not yet been developed--the body (subject), would be a quadriplegic-although it could be as smart as Stephen Hawking.  Dr. Frankenstein did seem to overcome this in giving life to his monster, but that's another story.   :knight:  :cheers:
James J

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Reply #83
Speaking of Hawking, have you noticed that although he's a Brit, he has an American accent. :)
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zblTCsThDE[/video]

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Reply #84
Speaking of Hawking, have you noticed that although he's a Brit, he has an American accent.  :)

All around smart cookie Stephen Hawking lost the ability to speak 30 years ago after a severe illness.  His speech synthesizer has an accent that has been described diversely as Scandinavian, American or Scottish.  It has been offered to him to change the computer voice to a less robotic sounding one, but he wishes to stay with the voice that people have grown to know him by.  Hawking has experimented with Brain Controlled Interfaces to communicate with his computer, however as yet these don't work as consistently as his cheek operated switch.  Personally, I don't want my computer to know what I'm thinking (about it), or it might retaliate some day. 

MORE AWESOMESAUCE:  "New Horizons Probe Finds Out Pluto's Bigger (and Icier) Than We Thought"

This probe will pass by Pluto at 7:49 AM ET and the data should be available to the media by Tuesday evening (it takes 4.5 hours at the speed of light for the date to reach Earth).  Read here.   :knight:   :cheers:


James J


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Reply #86
The secrets of the Universe can only be found at the endlessly small scale not at the endlessly big dimension.
Discovers are made at European CERN not sending junk American trash for space.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #87
The secrets of the Universe can only be found at the endlessly small scale not at the endlessly big dimension.
Discovers are made at European CERN not sending junk American trash for space.

What about European space trash like the Rosetta probe of a comet, or the Huygens probe sent to Titan in 1997, landed of Titan in 2005 and transmitted data for a whopping 90 minutes?   Always gotta get a dig in against the US regardless of how irrelevant it is.  Your digs have become meaningless however--it is now plain for all to see that you are merely a pigheaded bigot with nothing of substance to say. 

Your statement in itself is woefully shortsighted.  Curiosity and exploration are vital to the human spirit and the advancement of humankind.  The situation is like that in Europe before 1492--people might well have argued that it was a waste of money to send Columbus on a wild goose chase.  Yet the discovery of the New World made a profound difference to the old.  Spreading out into space will have an even greater effect--it will completely change the future of the human race and maybe determine whether we have any future at all.  Meanwhile space exploration pays for itself--and then some.  And in a very short period of time it has brought about a multitude new innovations, industries, jobs and wealth to planet Earth.  Hopefully space exploration will be what unites us to face a common challenge--so you send up your junk and we'll send up ours and we'll eventually compare notes to see whose junk did a better job of getting us off this rock. 

The work a CERN is simply astounding, however for them to go further in their exploration, tremendous amounts of energy will be needed-- much more than this planet has to offer.  The energy of stars (and eventually the entire galaxy), will need to be harnessed to study exotic or non-baryonic matter (matter not made of protons, electrons, etc.).  It seems that the macro- and the micro-world will need each other in order for either to get to the bottom of things.   :knight:  :cheers:
James J

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Reply #88
Discovers are made at European CERN not sending junk American trash for space.

Sadly, Portugal has had it's day in the sun and is just another Spanish colony.

One more financial crisis and it'll be a German colony.


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Reply #90
Sadly, Portugal has had it's day in the sun and is just another Spanish colony.

One more financial crisis and it'll be a German colony.

Arteriosclerosis it's a problem indeed. I thought you had medical insurance, welfare, something. I see you don't, as expected.
Maybe it's time to call a Priest to receive your last rites... ex-Catholic.
A matter of attitude.



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Reply #93
Yep. Crate of Irn Bru for that one.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #94
Science says that life on Earth will end in a bit more than a billion years. Or next century.

Earth will become unlivable for most organisms in about 1.3 billion years due to the sun's natural evolution, experts told Live Science. And humans could potentially drive ourselves (and countless other species) to extinction within the next few centuries, if the current pace of human-made climate change isn't mitigated, or as a consequence of nuclear war.

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Reply #95
Life under an aging sun, that's always nice.

The off-hand reference to climate disaster and nuclear war was poorly funded.

Run-away climate change can be extremely unpleasant, and deadly, indeed, but it would not be an extinction-level event.

Neither would a total nuclear war, now less than ever. We have many fewer, and smaller, nuclear weapons, though they are more precise. Militarily speaking, the outcome is similar, but for survival the odds are much better. We could expect the majority of the world's population to die, from climate and broken logistics. But killing a majority is extremely far from killing everyone.

And while a nuclear war would be fairly sudden, a climate collapse would be decades in the making. We could expect deaths in the millions, even into billions. But we could and would adapt. The cost would be immense, and the same goes for the losses. But again, far from "everyone dies". A man-made pandemic could be pretty nasty, but covid helped us prepare for future pandemics. We do find new dangers, and anyone could kill us, but we also get more resilient facing them. It is pretty certain we as a species will survive to the 3000, unless we are getting into transhumanism in one form or another.

Will humanity make it to year 3000 on Earth, and what will it be like?

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Reply #96
A man-made pandemic could be pretty nasty, but covid helped us prepare for future pandemics.
...only if we take the right lessons from what was an abysmal response in most of the Western World: Determine the threat, mitigate by protecting the most vulnerable, and  let actual science proceed — to give us the best understanding possible...

I fear the worst lessons were learned: Ignore or obfuscate the the origin of the threat, impose next to useless societal and economically ruinous strictures, and stifle scientific communication so that only that which supports the strictures is communicated...

Even in the worst case scenario, though: Humanity will likely survive. Natural selection hasn't been obviated — only outlawed! :)

Perhaps Thought Crime will be our downfall.
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...only if we take the right lessons from what was an abysmal response in most of the Western World: Determine the threat, mitigate by protecting the most vulnerable, and  let actual science proceed — to give us the best understanding possible...

I fear the worst lessons were learned: Ignore or obfuscate the the origin of the threat, impose next to useless societal and economically ruinous strictures, and stifle scientific communication so that only that which supports the strictures is communicated...

Even in the worst case scenario, though: Humanity will likely survive. Natural selection hasn't been obviated — only outlawed! :)
Who doesn't/didn't know where the epidemic started? Far East has faced a series of similar epidemics.

The methods and policies deployed in the West are the same as were already in use in Far East, that is less touching, more cleaning of hands, masks and vaccines. All these methods have a proven effect with very contagious air-borne viruses, but are far from fully reliable - because it's a very contagious air-borne virus and people don't follow best practices for various reasons.

Are the methods Communist? Are countries like Japan and Singapore Communist because they deployed the same methods as Vietnam and China?

To whine against a global policy that was necessary against a global epidemic is ultimate snowflakery. If natural selection operated uninhibited, you'd have been selected for extinction by now. However, liberal humanist principles tend to safeguard the lesser ones among us. So don't worry, you are well protected.

The right lessons had already been learned and the corresponding rules were more or less ready to be deployed. The worst lesson would have been to do as you advise: Act like a headless chicken as if something unprecedented and unforeseen was going on.

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Reply #98
The methods and policies deployed in the West are the same as were already in use in Far East, that is less touching, more cleaning of hands, masks and vaccines. All these methods have a proven effect with very contagious air-borne viruses, but are far from fully reliable - because it's a very contagious air-borne virus and people don't follow best practices for various reasons.
The "methods and policies deployed" turned out to be between futile and ruinous... You missed that? :) Oh, I forgot: You follow the party line! Take another jab and mask up. Do what's good for you, and don't believe your own eyes — politicians are the best arbiters of science because their motives are pure!
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Reply #99
Covid was a future shock, sense of wonder if you like. Not so much the pandemic itself, it was pretty run of the mill, but the reaction to it was very 21st century.

Back in the 1990s (maybe even the 80s) I read a bit on pandemic preparation, and it was bleak. Pandemics are pretty much inevitable. We are on overtime for a major new flu pandemic. And the Achilles heel of any pandemic, particularly an airborne one, is the health system. Doctors and nurses will be the first to get sick and die. And most fiction was just as bleak of course, based on some bioweapon killing much or most of humanity before the hero-doctor comes up with a cure, trying it on himself first of course. Meanwhile, on the outside there was panic and mayhem

This was not what happened. The first indication this was different came in China by February 2020. When the disease spread to cities like Beijing and Shanghaim instead of people killing each other on the street and raiding supermarkets, Hollywood style, people went home and they stayed home, ordering food delivery (left outside the door) to home, working from home.

When it came to Europe and North America, the pattern repeated. We are not living in the age of the Black Death anymore. A pandemic comes along, we just stay home until it's over. That was not all. The future shock continued. We had the digital fingerprint of the virus almost before it left Wuhan. We had working vaccines in mass production in a year. That is still not fast enough, but far faster than before, and this can be scaled up and sped up further. Ultimately we can find cures before the disease will have time to spread much (unless it did so by stealth). Furthermore we can detect virus particles in wastewater, and our epidemic models improve. We will get a fairly real time map of the pandemic in action.

As biohackers will eventually be able to design viruses, artificial viruses may one day matter, these developments matter a lot.