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Trump was acquitted based on opinion

You [...] are all-in for Trump

Why do you hold to the opinion that Trump is anything good in any way?

Would you do the honors, creating a Biden thread?

The next best option is ideology, i.e. you'd cherry-pick the facts that support your agenda and hush down other facts. But here you are claiming that you are not an ideologue. And I'd agree. An ideology would require some sense of principle, but you lack that.

US Republicans have voted to oust a top lawmaker, Liz Cheney, from her leadership post over her criticism of former President Donald Trump.

The Wyoming lawmaker, daughter of ex-US Vice-President Dick Cheney, has held the third-ranking post in the House of Representatives since 2019.

On Tuesday she said her party could not stand for truth if it upheld Mr Trump's false claims he won the 2020 election.

House Republicans will probably replace her this month with a Trump loyalist.

The move is seen as a sign Mr Trump's grip on the party is stronger than ever six months after he lost the election.

A character judgement, such as what we are passing on Trump here [...]

I do not wish well to USA at all

Trump was very effectively destroying the country, its reputation worldwide is in shambles, it was close to being locked out of global politics and economics

Quote from: ersi on 2021-05-13, 00:27:25

A character judgement, such as what we are passing on Trump here [...]

is mostly beside the point, when it comes to politics and statecraft.

Stock markets up to unprecedented heights,

unemployment down to decades-low rates,

the economy's growth rate steadily rising;

non-activist judges and justices seated,

On the campaign trail and at White House events, Trump would often cite his record on judicial appointments as an example of accomplishment, while ignoring the obstructions that occurred during the Obama years.

“You know, when I got in, we had over 100 federal judges that weren’t appointed,” he said. “Now, I don’t know why Obama left that. It was like a big, beautiful present to all of us. Why the hell did he leave that? Maybe he got complacent.” Trump omitted the essential fact that McConnell had blocked Obama’s nominees.

The high court vacancy at the start of Trump’s term was, in essence, a gift from McConnell.

border security bolstered,

trade pacts renegotiated,

energy sector booming...

(And that silly idea that Congress approve treaties? How dare he propose it?

Our "reputation" after Obama/Biden/Clinton/Kerry was one of appeasement and ineffectiveness; clearly, that's what many of the world's "leaders" preferred... Oh, well.

"Global politics"? You mean appeasing Iran and China and Russia? No thanks, as long as their goals include abusing the United States...and its allies.

As exemplified by the blackout in Texas? Yes, the industry made a profit on it so it's all good, right?

Stock markets up to unprecedented heights, unemployment down to decades-low rates, the economy's growth rate steadily rising; non-activist judges and justices seated, border security bolstered, trade pacts renegotiated, energy sector booming... Yup, that's destruction, all right! (And that silly idea that Congress approve treaties? How dare he propose it?    Our "reputation" after Obama/Biden/Clinton/Kerry was one of appeasement and ineffectiveness; clearly, that's what many of the world's "leaders" preferred... Oh, well.
"Global politics"? You mean appeasing Iran and China and Russia? No thanks, as long as their goals include abusing the United States...and its allies.

A federal judge on Monday handed down an eight-month prison term to the first person sentenced for a felony in the Jan. 6 Capitol breach, after an hours-long hearing that included arguments over whether the sentence would further divide the country, deter future attacks against the government or lead hundreds of others charged to plead guilty or face trial.

[...]

Hodgkins expressed remorse and regret for his actions, any damage they caused “and the way the country I love has been hurt.” He said he understood that even the presence of participants who, like him, remained peaceful “may have helped embolden others to carry out the destruction that occurred.”

“I do not and will not make any excuse, nor will I place any blame on any politician, journalist or otherwise,” Hodgkins said, saying he put “passion ahead of principle.” He added, “I completely acknowledge and respect that Joseph R. Biden is the rightful and respectful president of the United States.”

U.S. prosecutors sought an 18-month prison term for Hodgkins, citing the need to deter domestic terrorism. Hodgkins asked for probation or house arrest.

- Home detention
- Location monitoring
- No possession firearms or other weapons
- Passport revoked and can’t get a new one
- No travel outside of 50 miles from his home in Gravette
- No associating with anyone from the Jan. 6 insurrection

According to Google Maps, the address looks like a non-place https://goo.gl/maps/JrJJxQFCBx5LJLwH8

Any chance the mods can lock this thread until he gets his Twitter back? 😶

FYI: A prediction from this humble but un-cowed American republican has it that Eric Trump (...not The Donald or Junior) will run in '24. We'll have to wait and see...?!
Yeah, we will: Interesting times!

(Remember, you heard it here first!

Any chance the mods can lock this thread until he gets his Twitter back? 😶