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Ghosts.
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Monsters.
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Practical magic.
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Mythological creatures (unicorns etc.).
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Deities.
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Demons (Devil's included).
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Spirits of The Dead (not the same as #1).
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Reincarnation, karma, that sort...
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Type of scientological stuff like astrobodies.
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Universal Superintelligence, Manas, Mano-dhatu.
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Something Must Be there!... :faint: ..
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A bit of "superstitions" - "salt, cats, whatnot :insane:".
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Hobbits, snurves, dwarves, elves? ???
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Vegetables are alive. :yikes:
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I believe I'm alive. :beer: :coffee: :hat: :cheers:
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Topic: Do you believe in "supernatural"? (Read 28622 times)

Re: Do you believe in "supernatural"?

Reply #100

So, does any objective exist?:rolleyes:

Here's the standard distinction of object and subject:
Quote from: Drik-Drisya-Viveka
The world we see, being seen by the eye, is the object. The eye which sees it is the subject. But the eye, when perceived by the mind is the object and the mind which sees it is the subject. The mind with its thoughts perceived by the Self is the object and the Self is the subject. The Self cannot be the object, not being perceived by anything else.

The forms perceived are various, blue and yellow, gross and subtle, tall and short, and so on; but the eye that sees them remains one and the same. Similarly, the varying qualities of the eye, such as blindness, dullness and keenness and of the ears and other organs, are perceived by the mind singly. So, too, the various characteristics of the mind, such as desire, determination, doubt, faith, want of faith, courage, want of courage, fear, shyness, discrimination, good and bad, are all perceived by the Self singly. This Self neither rises nor sets, neither increases nor decays. It shines of its own luminosity. It illumines everything else without the need for aid from other sources.
This is from the standard Advaita Vedanta text Drik-Drisya-Viveka which means discernment of subject and object.


Re: Do you believe in "supernatural"?

Reply #102
To summarise the text: In epistemology, discernment is everything. In ontology, the subject is everything.

Your question was about ontology of the object. The answer: The object exists inasmuch as discernible, but it has no ultimate existence in the final analysis.

In this philosophy, things have degrees of reality, degrees of existence. There's the distinction of relative existence and absolute existence. The objective world has relative existence.