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What's Going on in Amerasia?

What is really going on inside the vast Pacific ocean and the continents and landmasses inside and around it, Asia, the Americas, Oceania? Stay here, and find out.

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The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is dead, long live the glorious Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP)

China Picks Up the U.S. Trade Fumble

Quote from: WSJ


Beijing embraced RCEP in 2012 as a counterweight to TPP, but most governments preferred the U.S.-led pact. That’s because TPP sought not only to eliminate or reduce tariffs on 18,000 categories of goods, but also to curb nontariff barriers to trade, including subsidies for state-backed firms and theft of intellectual property. This would have spurred economic reforms in Vietnam and Malaysia, opened up Japanese farming and services to competition, and enhanced America’s engagement in Asia. “Long-term its strategic value is awesome,” said Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

RCEP is different. With participation from the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations plus China, Japan, South Korea, India, Australia and New Zealand, the deal covers 30% of global GDP and half the world’s population. But its liberalizing effects will be limited mostly to lower tariffs on goods. That’s progress as far as it goes, but trade in services and investment—and non-tariff matters such as subsidies and property rights—will see little improvement. With China dictating the rules, RCEP will be a safe space for statism and cronyism.

A country like Vietnam can expect RCEP to facilitate increased manufacturing investment from firms in Japan, South Korea and China. But modernizers in Hanoi won’t have the leverage TPP would have provided to drive systemic change, such as curbing handouts to inefficient state enterprises. Japan can expect easier access to labor in India. But RCEP’s lower market-opening standards mean leaders in Tokyo will have a harder time facing down domestic cartels that prefer less competition and higher consumer prices.

TPP included the US and excluded India and China. RCEP includes India and China, but excludes the US. It's truly regional and can be compared with the European Economic Area (EEA) and the North American Free Trade Area (NAFTA).


Thus we got South/East Asia and Oceania, the biggest and fastest growing region, and the two roughly equal Europe (or Western Eurasia) and North America. "Others" include South America (outer Mercosur), the African Union, the United People of the Middle East, and Putinland.


RCEP covers roughly half the population of the planet (but not Pakistan and Bangladesh).


The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) seems to be dying too, from multiple American and European stab wounds, but that is for the Eurafroamerica thread.

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TPP included the US and excluded India and China.
If this is true (and I've never known jax to post a falsehood…), why would the American Congress even consider it?
The Pacific nations, minus China and India? :) Obama is going to go down in history as our worst president…

Personally (and y'all know I'm not an academic, right? :) ) I prefer amicable economic relations — almost everywhere. The idea of "dealing" with the Pacific nations but excluding China and India invites institutionalization! If you're that crazy…
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If this is true (and I've never known jax to post a falsehood...), why would the American Congress even consider it?
I'm not sure I understand your question. You would object to a trade agreement with Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, United States, and Vietnam solely on the basis that it doesn't at this moment include India or China?

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Quote from: WSJ
Beijing embraced RCEP in 2012 as a counterweight to TPP, but most governments preferred the U.S.-led pact.
Most governments (puppets) yes, but not the people who elected them and whose interests they are supposed to represent.

Quote from: WSJ
RCEP is different. But its liberalizing effects will be limited mostly to lower tariffs on goods.
Liberalizing effects?
TTP had such liberalizing  effects that not even all German parliamentarian had access to the documents.
Those few who had were not allowed to make any copy or even handwritten notations. Access to the documents was limited by time and put under ward.
Add to the above thousands of pages written in English (no translations were available) legal jargon which not even a native English speaker would understand, except he is used to decrypt legal terminology. The documents were classified and it was forbidden to make public their content.
And they had good reasons to keep the documents of TTP top secret.
This transatlantic trade deal is a full-frontal assault on democracy
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The purpose of the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership is to remove the regulatory differences between the US and European nations. I mentioned it a couple of weeks ago. But I left out the most important issue: the remarkable ability it would grant big business to sue the living daylights out of governments which try to defend their citizens. It would allow a secretive panel of corporate lawyers to overrule the will of parliament and destroy our legal protections.

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But… But… Aren't the eco-fascists allowed to dictate who can make and sell stuff? :) I mean, we're destroying the Earth — and not killing the "right" kind of people!
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I think Obama has been one of the more forward thinking presidents recently, he clearly has given some thought to where he would want USA to be in 2030. His vision is good, in my view, the execution, or at least the results, not so much.

The pivot to Asia is a case in point. The goal, to move away from areas that are not strategic for US interests (and that includes West Asia/the Middle East) to the areas that are (i.e. the rest of Asia), is reasonable and the desire to engage and contain China understandable. But the pivot has been to now a failure. 

China and the US are frenemies, competing allies, you have more in common than divide you, but the interests don't completely overlap. In particular China does not want to be contained. Not by the US, not by India, not by anyone. This has made China and Pakistan best friends forever. China is Pakistan's insurance policy against India and Afghanistan, while Pakistan is China's route to the sea and an intermediary to the Islamic world. Similarly there is love in the air between Communist Vietnam and the US, Burma may flip as well, while Bangladesh may be more comfortable with China as that country is neighbouring India. Next to Pakistan Iran is important to China, though being friendly to all three of Iran, Saudi Arabia and Israel is not going to be an easy feat. 

The Chinese government has realised that they can't remain inward-looking and have embarked on a strategy of sorts. India is not quite there yet. Indian foreign policy has largely been squabbles with Pakistan and worries about China. For the longest time they had an isolationist policy that was an unmitigated disaster. They manage to have friendly relationships with both the US and Russia, Japan would be a prize, Vietnam would be useful. They could have a Kissinger moment and ally with China.


TPP in this context is old world. It would strategically draw together the economies of the countries worried about China, basically all the neighbours. It is deep instead of wide (fewer countries, more commitment).


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Vimeo is also auto-embedded if you use the regular link. ;)

https://vimeo.com/167556065

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Vimeo is also auto-embedded if you use the regular link. ;)
This was the original source I've been using (opened in a frame). ;)

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Howie should like this: Throw it out! (In other words, let's try to be British again — because their kind of dysfunction is so much more, well, sophisticated!
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If Australia is in Europe, why shouldn't Britain be in Amerasia? The sun never falls...

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The sun never sets and the blood never dries. Don't forget the second part. :P

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Kim probably coronaed.
A special train possibly belonging to the North Korean ruler, Kim Jong-un, has been spotted at a resort town, according to satellite images reviewed by a Washington-based North Korea monitoring project, amid conflicting reports about Kim’s health and whereabouts.


This is a train indeed.

On Thursday the US president, Donald Trump, played down reports that Kim was ill. “I think the report was incorrect,” Trump told reporters, but he declined to say if he had been in touch with North Korean officials.

Trump has met Kim three times in an attempt to persuade him to give up a nuclear weapons programme that threatens the US as well as its Asian neighbours. While talks have stalled, Trump has continued to hail Kim as a friend.
No reporting is complete without Trump.

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Kim Jong Un resurfaces, so previous was fake news.

North Korea's Kim Jong Un appears in video after 21-day absence

Video footage of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un attending a fertilizer plant opening has been released by state media outlet the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA). The footage follows KCNA reporting that Kim cut a ribbon at the event on Friday, ending three weeks of speculation about his wellbeing.

The video footage, which emerged on Saturday, shows the leader of the secretive East Asian nation in an all-black suit. He appears relaxed and healthy while he claps, talks and cuts a red ribbon in front of the factory. He is surrounded by functionaries — most of who are wearing facemasks.

The video footage has not yet been independently verified, but it is thought to be from Friday.

[...]

Media interest is often stoked by the notable absence of the country's leading figures from key events. In 2014, Kim disappeared for nearly six weeks before reappearing with a cane. South Korea's spy agency later said he had a cyst removed from his ankle.


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Reminds me of The Matrix.

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Another Iran war by Trump. It started on weekend, so as to not impact NYSE immediately. What else did they give a thought to before launching this attack, what do you think?

A few days ago Iranians remarked that talks would continue on Tuesday or so. They had been evidently given the wrong impression. They have not learned the lesson: You must have nukes or else...

US and Israel launch an attack on Iran with tensions high over nuclear talks



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They had been evidently given the wrong impression. They have not learned the lesson: You must have nukes or else...

As always, ersi takes the wrong lesson.

He'll continue to do so: Watch how he'll spin what happens next! (Note: he won't pay any attention to how Russia and China react.)
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As always, ersi takes the wrong lesson.
Welcome back, teacher of lessons. Here's a random little lesson you taught me once upon a time.
... -I think- Trump recognized that America should not be the world's cop... (For which belief many still call him an Isolationist! A pejorative term, among the neo-conservative gaggle...)
How is this no-world-cop Peace President doing, in your opinion? Care to list his successes in his second term? How many Nobel Peace Prizes has he rightfully earned already for stopping so many wars? And he can stop this one too, increasing the number by a lot...

Nice to see such a cozily isolationist president after all those neocons and Democratic warmongerers and interventionists, isn't it? Killing Soleimani averted WWIII. The 12-day war last year obliterated Iran's nuclear capabilities. And now we are re-obliterating them while staying out of wars half a globe away that are none of our business!

In actuality, the USA/Israeli Zionazis (of whom Trump is not an ideological member, but he has no choice because Netanyahu got him by his member, if you know what I mean - well, you don't of course, so, khm, Epstein that) killed the principled great ayatollah who had spearheaded the Iranian policy of strict avoidance of nukes. In Iranian theocracy it is a blasphemy to have nukes - this is why they don't have them and they were not developing them. Zionazis keep insisting that Iran must develop nukes, and the next great ayatollah might finally oblige because having nukes seems to be the only way to make Zionazi aggression stop...

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Nice tp see you haven't changed your way of viewing the world! But I am a little surprised  by your turn towards Jew-hatred.... (Yeah, I know you say "Zionism" but I'm not fooled.) And your professed ignorance of Shia Islam!
You and I both know that Sharia is not religion, it is lawless law. It is state power — nothing more; other than the trappings that allow it to survive in a Westernized world.
The Ayatollah leading Iran claimed to believe in an apocalyptic war as his duty! Surely no minor cleric could have talked him out of it... So, your claim that nuclear weapons are proscribed by Sharia is fatuous.
Taqiyya remains an indispensable principle of "Islam".
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The Ayatollah leading Iran claimed to believe in an apocalyptic war as his duty!
As opposed to American evangelical commanders, according to whom Trump is anointed by Jesus to light the fire of Armageddon in Iran for Jesus' second coming? And as opposed to Netanyahu who is out to destroy Amalek?

(Yeah, I know you say "Zionism" but I'm not fooled.)
You fool yourself, so nobody else needs to.

Since you understand nothing about qualitative things, let's try quantity. How many wars has USA started this century? How many wars has Israel started this century? How many wars has Iran started this century? Compare.

(Note: he won't pay any attention to how Russia and China react.)
Oh, you mean you are paying attention to how Russia and China are reacting (and of course actively drawing lessons)? Please tell more!


I'm very much appalled by the official European response. Everybody is calling Iran to restraint. They have not even the slightest reproach to the aggressor. Europeans were always talking big about their values but since the Ukraine war these values are not even in rhetoric anymore. European values were never a thing.

Europeans are almost as bad as the American Congress who has de facto approved the Iran war. The approval of the war means that Trump has war powers, which means he has no obstacle to cancel or steal elections and declare himself a third term. The judiciary cannot interfere when war powers are active. That's the Peace President for you, law and order and constitution and all that.

 

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The [congressional] approval of the war means that Trump has war powers, which means he has no obstacle to cancel or steal elections and declare himself a third term.

You'll never give up your TDS fantasies, will you? :)
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Well, you're being uncharacteristically quiet... Perhaps you'd like something new to read?

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What the Words Are Hiding
In geopolitics, what governments do almost always matters more than what they say. It is obvious, very obvious, but it is worth repeating at moments like this.

Indeed, public statements during a conflict rarely function as transparent windows into operational military plans. More often, they become part of the conflict itself. Leaders speak to signal resolve, reassure allies, manage escalation, and just as importantly, to confuse their enemies. Treating statements from figures such as Rubio, Hegseth, or Trump as straightforward indicators of operational intent, thus, risks producing a deeply misleading picture of events.

It’s a 101 Clausewitz rule: “The deceiver by stratagem leaves it to the person himself whom he is deceiving to commit the errors of understanding,..”

A better approach, I think, is to step back to a moment before the pressures of active conflict began shaping public messaging. In this case, I believe that moment was May 13, 2025, when President Trump addressed the Saudi–United States Investment Forum in Riyadh. The speech did not receive the attention it deserved at the time. Yet in retrospect it stands as one of the most consequential statements delivered by an American president in the region in recent years. One passage in particular was revealing:

“I want to make a deal with Iran. If I can make a deal with Iran, I’ll be very happy. We’re going to make your region and the world a safer place. But if Iran’s leadership rejects this olive branch and continues to attack their neighbors, then we will have no choice but to inflict massive, maximum pressure: drive Iranian oil exports to zero, like I did before. They were a virtually bankrupt country because of what I did. They had no money for terror. They had no money for Hamas or Hizballah. And take all action required to stop the regime from ever having a nuclear weapon. Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. The choice is theirs to make. This offer will not last forever. The time is right now. One way or the other, make your move.”

Please do read the rest! (It's none of my "analysis" or verbiage... :) )
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