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What do we argue about, and why…

Seriously,the question is simple: What do we need to agree upon — in order to get along with each other?
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Reply #1
We already get along. The forum shows how.

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Reply #2
Kittens. Everyone loves kittens.
The start and end to every story is the same. But what comes in between you have yourself to blame.

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Reply #3
Deep!
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Reply #4
Respect.

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Reply #5
I disagree with the premise that arguing means you aren't getting along. ;)

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Reply #6
What do we need to agree upon -- in order to get along with each other?
Quoting a Nobel Prize, the answer my friend is blowing in the wind...
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #7
At least he had the good sense to pay the award all the respect it deserved… :)
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Reply #8
Swedish had gone definitively crazy.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #9
Since they gave president-elect Obama the Peace Prize? :) No: When they gave it to Arafat... Hm. So many options!
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"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman
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Reply #10
Norwegians give the Peace Prize. The prize is discredited ever since it was given to Kissinger.

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Reply #11
Northern European disorientation, it keeps going on.
And spreading.

International prizes were important in a structured world, interconnected by principles and recognizing quality. With the modernist fragmentation of social structures, a prize is as valuable as an insult.
A matter of attitude.


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Reply #13
:lol:

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Reply #14
Norwegians give the Peace Prize. The prize is discredited ever since it was given to Kissinger.
I suspect the South Vietnamese felt the same — specially after our Quisling Congress pulled all funding from their government (read this and the subsequent section)…
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Loss of South Vietnam was tragic.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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For southeast Asia, specially the South Vietnamese… The Australians and New Zealanders seemed to really care, as did some few other nations. (South Korea, the Philippines, Taiwan, Thailand…and Canada, and by extension India and Poland). I don't seem to recall Scotland or GB as a whole being involved…
(The French -understandably- had given up all pretensions. Which is not to say that all Frenchmen stayed out of it.)

Spectating leads inevitably to Monday-morning quarterbacking!
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In (another…) almost exclusively American topic: Clarance Thomas is -once again- being accused of lewd behavior. Which is to say, the Left thinks he's an "uppity" black man.
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Smithsonian Institution spokeswoman Linda St. Thomas said the [the new National Museum of African American History and Culture] exhibits “will continue to evolve and change over time as we interpret the African American experience.”
But first they said:
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Thomas is mentioned only in the context of [Anita] Hill’s allegations. In the museum’s narrative, Hill’s testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee prompted “serious debates on sexual harassment, race loyalty and gender roles.” It does not say[:] that Thomas denied the charges or that he was confirmed to the court.
and previously
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Smith said she was moved to make her allegations public because of controversy involving Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump. [… they should have broken for a paragraph here, whoever wrote the piece… I did it for them.]
But Thomas’s supporters saw political motivation.

Mark Paoletta, a former assistant White House counsel who assisted in Thomas’s confirmation, said it was not a coincidence that the new charge came “as he celebrates 25 years on the court, and in the heat of a presidential election.”
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Scalia  [a long-time friend] could not understand why Thomas, raised in the South, did not want to go hunting with him. Thomas told him, “No good comes from being in the woods.”
More seriously, Thomas talked of Washington as a “broken” city, one whose institutions are failing. When asked whether citizens have lost confidence, he gave an answer that might appeal to both his supporters and detractors, who would apply it to him with different results.

“I don’t think people owe us, reflexively, confidence,” Thomas said. “I think it’s something we earn.”
(source)

What a jamoke! (Whoever wrote the "opposition research"…)

I've read most of Justice Thomas' opinions… The only reason I can think of to denigrate him is the racist epithet "Uncle Thomas"… That's a "gimme" if ever there was one! (But he did marry a white woman; for some that's enough! I mean, liberalism is okay — as far as it goes… Right? :) But democracy has its limits!)

An African-American exhibit shouldn't be ideologically opposed to African-Americans who disagree with current political alignments…
Or should it?

Is that the kind of world we want?

My fellow Americans, is that the kind of United States we'll accept?

"No good comes from being in the woods."

Are we too stupid to know what he means? (I fear, we are.)
Consider the phrase "out of the woods"…
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One fringe benefit of the shifting American political landscape, the Europeanisation of it, is that the political vocabulary converge.

For decades "Liberal" was an insult from the right, practically equivalent with Socialist (and Socialist with Communist). Now "Liberal" is an insult from the left, just like in the Old Continent. So Hillary Clinton is now a "Wall Street Liberal". I'd beg to differ, in the European landscape I'd call her a Christian Democrat, but baby steps.

In part this seems to be effective trolling by the Republicans to keep potential Clinton voters at home, the alt-left is just as easy to manipulate as the alt-right, but I believe it is a real shift.

The US Libertarian party seems to be sliding into the Liberal mainstream as well. The "kill the poor, hands off my stash" crowd that manned the party seem to have joined the Republican tent instead. 

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I'd beg to differ, in the European landscape I'd call her a Christian Democrat, but baby steps.
Speaking of European landscape,  I'd call her a bitch and him an asshole. :)

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So Hillary Clinton is now a "Wall Street Liberal". I'd beg to differ, in the European landscape I'd call her a Christian Democrat, but baby steps.
True, but Christian democrats and liberals can often pair up quite well because their economic ideas are typically fairly similar. Liberals give up their societal values in return. The so-called purple cabinets[1] were interesting in that they were democratic/liberal in their social values with mostly economic concessions from the social democrats.

I wonder why Republicans have adopted the socialist color. :P
Social democrat is red, liberal is blue. Mix them and you get…

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Reply #21
I wonder why Republicans have adopted the socialist color.  :P
Perhaps because we don't have your hide-bound attachment to a past that we no longer understand… :)
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Reply #22
we argue something we dont understand well .

nor something controversional .



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Reply #24
As a quip, I appreciate your effort! :)

But those pieces of paper are still the highest law of our land…
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"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman
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