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Reply #26 –
Quote from: ensbb3 on
Distance?  :right:
I'm sure a Smart runs more distance per liter than your American pick up V8 monstrous uselessness. :)
And it pollutes the world infinitely less.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #27 –
You never needed to tow anything bigger than your ego, Bel…which would actually requite  a V-8 pickup truck with more than 400 horse-power! :) No wonder you stick to your dinky little country. Shoe-leather's cheaper than tires, isn't it? :)
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Reply #28 –
Quote from: OakdaleFTL on
No wonder you stick to your dinky little country
My dinky little country it's one thousand years bigger than yours. Wait more five hundred years, and, if you still exist -  :lol:  - maybe the backdoor servant will notice your presence. Until then, don't bother begging for alms.

As for old cars, certainly the miserable Ford T has its place at the automotive world. The car the proletariat could buy with their salary at the factory, while producing it. Brilliant for Marxist inspiration.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #29 –
Aww, are you still mad my continent separated from yours millions of years ago?

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Reply #30 –
Trouble is it's still not far enough away!  :lol:
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #31 –
Quote from: ensbb3 on
my continent
You don't have a continent. Just a sort of an incontinent.

Cars, old cars, new cars. You know nothing about cars. That's the topic.
I suppose Oakdale keeps on driving in first shift all around town...
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #33 –
Go on? I'm the only one doing it.
Sorry, I was.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #34 –
Oh, I thought you were going to dazzle us with your superior car knowledge.

Sorry is right then. The topic is "old cars", since you brought it up. You've* only mentioned a new car that no car enthusiast would take seriously and then proclaimed superior understanding despite no evidence. I can't even Google up any evidence the Portuguese would know dick about it. So either your prejudice has you riding on coattails to feel big or you're holding out on us. Guess it's the former.   

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Reply #35 –
Quote from: Belfrager on
I suppose Oakdale keeps on driving in first shift all around town...
Nope… Only did that long enough to get back home. A few days later, it started, ran and the brakes appeared to be working normally. Still, until I can afford to have them serviced by a specialist, I won't let children ride with me…
That seems merely prudent, to me.

But I'm reminded of an old story from back when Rolls Royce not only offered but required a life-time warranty. The hood (bonnet; the access to the engine compartment) was locked; only the company had keys.
Well, there was a little old lady who bought one. But she refused to learn how to shift through the gears. So, they put it in 1st gear for her; and periodically replaced the transmission!
Such service is all-but unknown today.
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Reply #36 –
Quote from: OakdaleFTL on
Such service is all-but unknown today.
Speaking of. I miss full service gas stations. I can't remember seeing one since the mid to late 90's and they were rare then. And not these cheap "full" service places that pump your fuel. A real 'old school' one where they checked coolant, oil, tire pressure and washer fluid while pumping your fuel.

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Reply #37 –
The price of fuel and the taxes make such all-but unaffordable… Service is a forgotten concept, except for the very rich: A quite European way of doing things. :)
(Until they start chopping off heads…)
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Reply #38 –
Quote from: ensbb3 on
Speaking of. I miss full service gas stations. I can't remember seeing one since the mid to late 90's and they were rare then. And not these cheap "full" service places that pump your fuel. A real 'old school' one where they checked coolant, oil, tire pressure and washer fluid while pumping your fuel.
They aren't rare here. You can expect one such service, if you fill your fuel tank. They may even cleanse your windshield.

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Reply #40 –
Quote from: OakdaleFTL on
The price of fuel and the taxes make such all-but unaffordable… Service is a forgotten concept, except for the very rich: A quite European way of doing things. :)
(Until they start chopping off heads…)

Increasingly in Europe the gas station is disappearing, or alternatively stop selling gas, becoming a convenience store with a gassy past. 

The reason is of course the electric car, which you can charge at home, the office, or other outlets. There are still gas stations in Oslo, but they are getting increasingly rare, going the way of the phone booth and the ATM.

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Reply #41 –
Yeah I took a picture with the last payphone I saw, some time ago. Figured it might be my last chance. (In related trivia - my son had no idea what a collect call was, or what a calling card was.)

More on topic: I'll have to keep my big 8cyl that prefers high octane.:rolleyes: Electric motors don't have anywhere near enough power, for the time being.

Municipalities installed charging stations around public parking years ago in anticipation of the electric car boom that never happened. Hybrids and electrics are more common in urban environments now, however the gas station isn't in any danger of disappearing yet.

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Reply #43 –
Quote from: Belfrager on
Electric motor's power is infinite.
Not quite infinite, and the extension cord does tend to limit its range… :)
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Reply #44 –
I did misspeak. I meant Electric cars in general. The entire system falls short of my needs. Better lighter weight batteries are on the horizon and the cost of ever more efficient motors are declining it's sure one day, soon, they may compete. But even if they could produce an electric truck that hauls as much as mine and matches it in every way across the spec sheet (and they can't) I couldn't afford it.

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Reply #45 –
Absolutely. Electric engines are clearly superior to combustion engines by any measure, but are let down by that the energy store of today's batteries are less effective than burning gasoline. That should lead to hybrids as a pragmatic compromise (use the electrical motor when you can and the combustion engine when you can't), though the trend is is quite firmly towards all-electric. The prime advantage is that it is simpler, but requires better batteries and/or charge more often and/or charge faster.

"Drive by wire", that is charge by overhead lines (like an updated trolley bus) or third rail (with wheels instead of the first two) is not something that sounds likely for non-professional transport. Induction charging may be coming, a bus stop right outside here is supposed to get an experimental one by June 2016 (what can I say, this bus is clearly late, maybe gone), connecting a branch of the technical university, city hall, and Scania (truck/bus) HQ.

I am not too keen on vehicle induction charging, it's lossy and expensive, if convenient. I'd rather go for clever contact charging.

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Reply #46 –
Quote from: ensbb3 on
I couldn't afford it.
That's your only real objection, and a what a funny thing, you can't afford it because you do nothing but feeding the oil corporations.
You'll never can afford it while you keep destroying it.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #47 –
Actually I had two. Range and cost.

http://www.teslarati.com/real-challenge-tesla-pickup-truck/

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Remember also that every pound of batteries added has a net-reduced benefit to the overall range of the vehicle as it also adds weight. Since Tesla isn’t currently using and hasn’t made a lot of noise about eventually using high-tech, high-density, bleeding-edge lithium batteries to lighten the battery’s weight, we can assume that the current Panasonic cells are what would power a Tesla Truck if it were made in the near future.

To tow a trailer at 7,000+ pounds would require an enormous amount of energy and to do so for a long range like truck owners would expect (e.g. to the lake and back) would be a feat. It’s not insurmountable, of course. There’s little doubt that Tesla’s engineers couldn’t overcome this obstacle, but it will be a huge one.

Now keep in mind this article covers a full size "Light Duty" truck (150/1500 size.)

 :sst: 7k lbs is light compared to the things I haul.  ;)

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Reply #48 –
Trucks are not cars, trucks are to be engined by hydrogen cells. Perfectly doable and non pollutant.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #49 –

Moving on...

Growing up it was a bit of a right of passage into adulthood (16+) to tinker with your vehicle. I always spent the most on the intake and exhaust system. It's the best performance boost for your buck without getting into high-end block and fuel injection modding.

Took me a couple tries to get the sound just the way I wanted it. I love the sound of old muscle cars with properly tuned duel exhaust systems. Nice mean sound has an aesthetic quality too.