Where debating everything under the sun is only the beginning

Even situations in other countries that are handled without almost automatically being gunned down show how bad you are over there.

The Tories were not in a state of collapse at all but followed the procedure for electing a new Leader - only the Labour Party is a disaster.

Can please a native English speaker (or someone better at English than me) confirm the year and especially the number of arrests for that year?

Year 2012, just under 12.2 million arrests.

Load of side-stepping cobblers from the red neck mentalities of Oakdale and colonel.

The Tories were not in a state of collapse at all but followed the procedure for electing a new Leader - only the Labour Party is a disaster. At no time were the Tories in the left's state. You are either trying to be fly southern boy or American ignorance of factuals here is beyond you. Ulster is British and will stay so and i would remind that the only people wanting Ulster to be in Eire is the Sinn  Fein (remember them - well funded by ex-colonists). SF cannot win the NI Assembly not do the majority of people in the Province want to be in with the south and that includes people of a more moderate Irish nationalism or RC) So a load of tripe. The 2 of you did something together that proves what you lot do with a mess in your own country and that is change the subject as it is too near the damn truth;

Your own President (not Oakdale when it comes to correct stats) indicated in a speech this week the truth about police killing and race matters.  Too many police forces over there in dangerland are far too quick on dishing out death and get away with it; The after time we see thanks to mobile phones what the police have got away with for decades before they existed. Around 97% of polie who have gunned down someone get away with it. They do not have patience nor common sense and poorly trained.  Even situations in other countries that are handled without almost automatically being gunned down show how bad you are over there. They don't like being challenged or contradicted and one has to ask why unarmed people need be pumped with a selection of bullets. It does not take long for the city police forces to get too damn haughty as they think they re beyond reproach and heaven help you if you cross swords with them. Rifles, semi-automatics, armoured army cars and so on what a damnable police state mindset.

Even when i mentioned the retired Philly captain who said there is an inbuilt problem was ignored here a while ago.  Arrogance, conceit and acting as if they can do what they like is a national weakness and even allowing for sensible officers the national situation is a country wide disgrace and they act above the law because they have got away with it for far too long.  An awful lot of them would not get such a job in sensible countries.

.after you've actually watched it:

“I swear to God if you fucking move!” one of the officers yelled, pointing his gun at Sterling’s chest. “He’s got a gun! Gun!”
Muflahi’s video does not appear to support the officer’s claim that Sterling’s gun represented an active threat: It appears to have been in a pocket and never reached his hand. Instead, the video shows Sterling pinned down, shot twice in the chest, and then shot four more times.

After mortally wounding him, one of the officers removes an object from Sterling’s right pants pocket. (Police during a Wednesday press conference refused to comment on whether Sterling had a gun.)

“Fuck!” one cop yells into his radio. “10-4, 10-4… shots fired! Shots fired!”

Sterling was still alive, the video capturing his left hand moving over a dark pool of blood filling the center of his red T-shirt. When paramedics arrived minutes later, Sterling was dead.

Firstly to the limited brains across the ocean.

Rubbish colonel. Never has any Yank or half-Yank (allowing for you-hoo) ever been able to answer the long list and history I have named on Opera or here.

I notice well in this thread the total inability to have an explanation for the way so much of the police force works ovr there as a law unto themselves.  Most of them would not get such a job in other places and certainly not here (and don't desperately use that as an excuse to deviate as the American norm here).  The number of police abuses is the States is enormous and when I said (twice) that a retired senior officer in a big city had doubts about how they are trained or mental ability to cope that was as usual, ignored.  They are impatient and when there is a disagreement between a policeman and a member of the public they do not like the person exercising their right! Impatience slides in quickly then intimidation and not long before an excuse to pull the gun out.  In one recoding I watched a white man (change eh) was cycling at night in his suburb with his dog )(lead in the hand on the handlebar) and was stopped by a police car. The officer wanted to know where he was going and then started getting very haughty and refused to say to the man why he was being stopped. Then handcuffed and pushed on the ground and thumped. We have all seen occasions such as the time a whole squad of police battered a back man lying on the ground in Los Angeles and the other black who got choked to death by a team. Plenty of times unarmed people have been battered or shot even when the "culprit" is unarmed.

One could see the point if police batterings or shootings of innocents were rare but they are NOT.  In the vast number the police get away with it and the official namby-pamby thing comes out with the police being there "to defend us". What a scandalou attitude and a long tradition grew up here that was the norm long before people had mobile phones (cell phones as I am dealing with ex-colonists).  You have too many police officers who automatically think that being in a uniform and abadge they are a world of their own and having traditionally got away with it still at it. The actuality shows that you do have a police problem whether you like it or not and in a land where there are more guns than people hardly surprising that the police have got away with it for so long.

You know you have a problem so why you try to ignore it is beyond sense and would soon finish this thread.

(damn woman didn't have any insurance)