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rjhowie: There are lies and damn lies and both are the sum together of what the West is dong about Ukraine and Russia

WASHINGTON—According to a poll released Monday by the Pew Research Center, the escalating conflict between Russia and Ukraine has left Americans sharply and bitterly divided along ignorant and apathetic lines, with the nation’s citizenry evenly split between grossly misinformed and wholly indifferent factions.

No Southern mouth your country is a guilty party. Time after time it has stuck it's nose into countries all over the place as if you have some right to do this from on high. Jimbro does have a built-in mental thing about Russia even though your land is the most imperialist place on the planet. Your youthful belligerence does effect your grey cells the way you resort to the language you have to use. It is your lot that leads the support of an illegal government in Kiev and is rubbishing the Crimea which HAS an elected government. Macallan does have a point and you forget because it suits that much of the Russian population in Ukraine has been woefully treated. Your President and that other lying part of Laurel and Hardy, namely, Kerry go on about illegality yet support that illegal Kiev government and it's Nazi inclusion. Must say that you don't seem to know much about the place hence you falling back on abuse and young crassness.

President Putin does not have to influence or sneak about Crimea. It has always wanted to be Russian and the vote will show that at the weekend. Crimea is wise because if the Kiev bandits keep on the path to Europe they will go down the financial drain. The financial institutions only want Ukraine into their fold so they can give big loans and get great interest. They don't give a damn really. Maybe you could explain why your country thinks that a rebel government which only reflects on half of the country is okay and that including Nazis is okay. Talk about hypocrisy. At least after the vote Crimeans will not be saddled with the great future debt that Ukraine will be saddled with for decades. The east of the country should get out to.

We have come nowhere near invading all but 22 or so countries on this earth; an "honour" only the UK holds.
Why did the UK do this? Because it wanted things done it's way, same as we have been known to do.

Where the heck do you think we learned it all from old chap? 

Where the heck do you think we learned it all from old chap? 

Anyway, if it is okay for Czechoslovakia to be two places and Kosovo to vote to detach it is just as right for Crimea. It never wanted to be part of Ukraine and is going home. So the West has tio live with it and not just accept the separations it wants to supervise.

Sewastopol

balaclava (n.)
"woolen head covering", especially worn by soldiers, evidently named for village near Sebastopol, Russia, site of a battle Oct. 25, 1854, in the Crimean War. But the term (originally Balaclava helmet) does not appear before 1881 and seems to have come into widespread use in the Boer War. The British troops suffered from the cold in the Crimean War, and the usage might be a remembrance of that conflict. The town name (Balaklava) often is said to be from Turkish, but is perhaps folk-etymologized from a Greek original Palakion.

I had no luck with that.
You might bring another one for an incisive and thorough analysis of Lord Obama. Maybe I'll have more luck with it.

Firstly the comment from Sanguinemoon about the "Russian invasion." Ehrm, where is it? The only Russian military are the 25,000 entitled to be in the Black Sea base and which Ukraine is paid for in big money. There are NO Russian troops and NO Russian tanks.

There are TWO SIDES BUT SOMEHOW THAT IS IGNORED. When the first report came out about deaths there was deliberately no mention that almost half were policemen. Molotov cocktails, firing  bricks and anything that hands can lay on at the officers. One policeman was actually beaten to a death pulp my the mob . And mob is what they are. They yak about Ukraine then attack and burn government buildings so how does that help any future governemnt. Neither can an elected man be expected to give up by terror gangs on the street.

It is none of America's business nor the EEC interfering politicians business to shout on about Ukraine's internal affairs. Now talk about sanctions? Can we remind everyone that one half of the country does not want to be in the EEC. And anyway what financial advantage is there in it?

Senator McCain tops the list of utter balloons that gives America a bad name. He looks and sounds utterly stupid.

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