Re: Tripe about Ukraine
Reply #596 –
Any bullying is from the West.
The previous government in Ukraine duly and properly elected even with flaws was prepared to discuss all sorts of options but the protests in Kiev were duly taken over by the fundamental and very extreme ne-Nazis. Immediately America and Europe threw in it's lot for a coup. The grounds are flimsy. They equally knew fine well that much of the rest of that country was not party to the Kiev take over but neither cared a damn. They seen it as a country with a shadow of Russia over it and that was enough to get them stirred up because they are still in an out-dated mode on Russia.
Dis Kiev care a damn but the east and south of the country? no they did not they were being simply selfish.Dozens of killins along with buildings damaged, etc. Now when protests erupt in the east because folk there had voted in a government properly they are automatically the bad guys. Ukraine will never be part of NATO that long overdue expensive waste of time. Neither is the EEC dishing out membership applications nor money when it comes to that. There is that billion assured by America which is still dwarfed by Russian money. Not only in loans but in special oil discounts that even they were not met with! And because Russia is withdrawing the discount they are the bad guys!
It is also okay to support a violent overtthro of a democratically elected system in Kiev but declare that protests ine east are terrorists. What a dark political comedy and Ukraine would have went under if Russia had permanently stopped oil. As for the anti-Russian propaganda it rises to ridiculous lengths. There was a time when I had a regard for Willam Hague the Foeign Secretary but not now. There he was on televison stating that it was evident Russia was involved in the east disturbances. Well like the Russia Foreign Secretary, I wait for the evidence. The Kiev government even claimed they had a Russian espionage caught and when the man;s ID was shown it had printed on - "Occupation: Spy!!. Haha, it is so ridiculous.
With the completion of the alternative two routes for oil to Europe the continent will be safe for it's power but Ukraine will suffer. Whe the country gets an IMF loan they will not believe the pain they are going to have and some will envy the Crimea. We in the West should have kept away but our hypocrisy in political affairs is dastardly.