Re: Tripe about Ukraine
Reply #421 –
Well krake I have said the same about the West being aware that the overthrow of the duly elected government was aided by the violence of the Right Sector and it's similars. They also have influential ministerial posts in the stolen government. As for bias when one watches the violence metted out in front of cameras in the Procurator Fiscal's office and then to a head of a tv channel in his office (publicly forced to sigh his resignation), etc a violent jack-in-the-box is obvious.
Obama on television was cringe making at it's worst. Somehow the mess in Iraq is okay and the Crimea a lot worse?? How is that for intelligence insulting? How can a world leader who has a nation that has invaded others sometimes with no UN permissiojn, etc able to stand up and give that stuff out? Obama talks a good game but mouths lies, deceit and a disgrace. The only saving grace (and that is stretched) is that neither McCain or Ryan was present as all hell would have been let loose. McCann is a complete headcase and that decent (?) people put him in is terrible. Somehow the US and EEC rabbit on about democracy and freedom along with the rights of the people. The fact that a deomocracically elected government was destroyed by a nbunch of thugs who were unelected comes under those phrases (along with the violence and killing) but a referendum by a legitimate government in Crimea is evil makes you scratch your head.
Those that took over in Kiev had no interest in the east or south of the country at all so why should they be led like puppies into something they were not part of? There has essentially been silence on this Forum regarding that telephone chat between the EEC boss and the Estonian Foreitn Minister. Same too for the Assistant Secretary of State in DC who used the a phone call that the EEC should "f--- off." So much for Obam and the chums in the EEC. Now we have another call by that crazy woman who is a former Prime Minister of Ukraine and her rancid conversation.
For Obama to say his admin had no involvement or wanted such in the internal affairs of Ukraine is a lie. He couldn't stop that damn head case, McCain going but his chums in the EEC went to Kiev and rallied behind the fighers and killers in Kiev. Now that the IMF is going to fish out a loan to a country that is almost belly up is going to make things worse for the ordinary Ukrainians. Pensions will be much reduced, taxes up, power bills will rocket, general prices. The strictness of the money will penalise millions of Ukainians who had no part in a rump taking over in Kiev aided by their Nazi bully boys. People living in the west of the country who were not part of the coup and millions in the east will suffer and small wonder their is trouble brewing east of the capital. This was not caused by Russia who at one stage was going to give loans at a reasonable situation but the group of power seekers and would be SS men.