Re: Tripe about Ukraine Reply #25 – 2014-02-28, 02:29:15 So he resurfaced in Russia? His life was threatened by some of the extremists nuts who now form the Kiev government. Neither am I going to get distracted by that daft comment about an Ulster comparison. The ex-Prsident of Ukraine was democratically elected and certified by international people and the system rubbed out by a coup of street protestors many of who are fanatical fascist inclined including in the new "government." Now the acting President is taking a stance about the Crimea against the "legimate" government! I can hardly belive his brass neck.Crimea was part of Russia when Josh's Red pals ran the then dictatorship and transferred the peninsular into Soviet Ukraine. I have said that if kiev worls on street people being allowed to take over the country then they have started a precedent and vwallah! - Crimea! The Western media and true to form comes out with gun carriers taking over the regional parliament down there and now 2 airports. Does that sound familiar to anyone? Kiev mark 2 BUT with less violence and deaths to report. The place is a Russian enclave and considering the self appointed lot in Kiev quite right to say they do not want to be part of something that they are totally and locally against.Western leaders like Obama, Kerry and Cameron come out with this completely laughable stuff about Russia not interfering in Ukraine! You have to wonder about the mentality and sheer gall of such rubbish. It is okay for their pals in Kiev to bludgeon and shoot their way into power but woe behide anyone not in their pocket doing so. Politicians from the West went into Ukraine and guffed about support and for non-violence yet fully aware that the opposition well included a sizeable extreme nationalist lot were beating and killing.If the West and the EEC continue to be behind this motley crowd of street fighters who think they will run Ukraine then Europe has a problem. Many follow the tradition that supported the SS in WW2 and unashamed and now are in government. Now it seems there may well be a referendum down at the Crimea on seceding and traditional home connections. Good luck to them a the referendum does take place as that is more democratic that what the West is supporting up north as the alternative is a cauldron of fire.