Jumping over the Rubicon

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Jumping over the Rubicon

2015-10-25, 20:20:31

Eurozone crosses Rubicon as Portugal's anti-euro Left banned from power

It would appear that Anibal Cavaco Silva, Portugal’s constitutional president, has refused to allow a democratically elected Goverment-in-waiting to form a Government because he judged their policies to be against Portugals's interests

It remains to see if this is carried through but at first sight it is a worrying precedent.

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Reply #1 – 2015-10-25, 21:23:44

Quote from: string on 2015-10-25, 20:20:31

has refused to allow a democratically elected Goverment-in-waiting to form a Government

Nope, he refused to nominate those that lost the elections and very well he did. He nominated the winning coaligation as he is forced to do acording the constitution.

Anyway the president is an idiot and English reporters total imbeciles, as clearly shown.
As for English readers, I let you to define them.

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Reply #2 – 2015-10-25, 22:37:44

Cavaco might have pleased the IMF and some "Anglo-Saxon" leaders with his move but let's see how long this new government will hold.
I would bet for new elections next year.

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Reply #3 – 2015-10-26, 06:35:08

It's a minoritarian government if a few socialists from a defeated socialist party's inner war don't take revenge and vote for them at the Assembly.
Irony of ironies, those half a dozen socialists ( from the party that lost the elections) have all the power...

The president doesn't have too much power, it's the Assembly of the Republic with it's deputees dance that defines what happens at the end.
That's why this is considered a semi-presidencialist system. It's completely different from presidentialist systems. The president has to follow certain formalities and this particular one also uses to make idiotic speeches, just that.

But yes, the possbilities for new elections are strong. We are rich so we can spend our time with these little games.

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Reply #4 – 2015-10-26, 17:48:19

Quote from: Belfrager on 2015-10-25, 21:23:44

Quote from: string on 2015-10-25, 20:20:31
has refused to allow a democratically elected Goverment-in-waiting to form a Government

Nope, he refused to nominate those that lost the elections and very well he did. He nominated the winning coaligation as he is forced to do acording the constitution.

Anyway the president is an idiot and English reporters total imbeciles, as clearly shown.
As for English readers, I let you to define them.

Thanks for the correction - I was not certain, hence the cautious "It would appear that".

We have the best imbeciles!

It's British, not English by the way.

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Reply #5 – 2015-10-27, 19:36:47

Imbecility is universal. I have a cousin who holds a doctorate in imbecility from Harvard.

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Reply #6 – 2015-10-27, 22:35:53

Quote from: string on 2015-10-26, 17:48:19

It's British, not English by the way.

The day "Britland" is born I will call you British. Until then, it's the way I say, English.
You can call yourselves whatever you want, of course.

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Reply #7 – 2015-10-28, 18:57:22

Tut, tut. You are very wrong there Belfrager but letting your temper over-rule your grey cells. When we get answers like English instead if British it is either ignorance or being silly. It does your stance no good at all and detracts from a stance.

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Reply #8 – 2015-10-28, 20:05:26

Oh, heck. The whole doggone island that England, Wales and Scotland sit on is called Great Britain.

So--- maybe the language IS British.

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Reply #9 – 2015-10-28, 20:18:02

Why is it called Great?

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Reply #10 – 2015-10-28, 21:50:54

Quote from: Barulheira on 2015-10-28, 20:18:02

Why is it called Great?

Just a guess, but-- it's called "Great" because it's the biggest island in that group. All of the other islands that make up the British Isles are smaller.

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Reply #11 – 2015-10-28, 22:03:10

Quote from: mjmsprt40 on 2015-10-28, 21:50:54

Quote from: Barulheira on 2015-10-28, 20:18:02

Why is it called Great?

Just a guess, but-- it's called "Great" because it's the biggest island in that group. All of the other islands that make up the British Isles are smaller.

Almost. This is Little Britain.

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Reply #12 – 2015-10-28, 23:03:36

Quote from: Barulheira on 2015-10-28, 20:18:02

Why is it called Great?

Why is it called "Britanny" if nothing else but the English ruling over the others?
Funny that ruling over such miserables, they pretend to be "Great".

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Reply #13 – 2015-10-28, 23:20:06

Europeans.

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Reply #14 – 2015-10-28, 23:56:12

Yes, we are nice people

With just a little bit bickering mood...but that's only amongst ourselves, we treat the rest of the world very warmly.
Well, more or less.

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Reply #15 – 2015-10-29, 20:05:37

Quote from: Belfrager on 2015-10-28, 23:03:36

Why is it called "Britanny" if nothing else but the English ruling over the others?

Actually, the ones ruling over Brittany are the French

Now let's split some hairs on what exactly a 'briton' is

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Reply #16 – 2015-10-30, 00:22:23

And oh heck like the average Yank, mjsmsprt40 you missed out Northern Ireland due to the lack you folk have of the outside world.

As for why the Great what you don't understand that this came about centuries ago and 2 countries were unting firstly under the one Monarch then later the same parliament and in those far off days regarded as a big achievement and step.

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Reply #17 – 2015-10-30, 03:54:48

And yet you belittle the uniting of thirteen abused colonies into a nation that -in a mere 170 years- came to dominate the world scene… Keep your blinders, Dobbin!

You'd fall and break a leg, otherwise.

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Reply #18 – 2015-11-02, 02:20:56

Abused? How flawed nationalism can be shown anywhere. Yes, hermit you do dominate the world but I would not boast about it while you cause wars everywhere an economy stagnating, tens of millions of poor and cannot afford medical visits and so on. Neither were you content just to have a perhaps competent country in the 13 areas that we had no intention of extending and what happened to the red Indians yet another black mark and even more widely. It would not be so bad if the corporate world domination with military pals was something more principled. In two centuries you have hardly been too principled as a system have you. Even the revolution was started by the money class people so that tradtion is still alive!

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Reply #19 – 2015-11-03, 20:58:16

Quote from: rjhowie on 2015-11-01, 21:20:56

Yes, hermit you do dominate the world but I would not boast about it while you cause wars everywhere an economy stagnating, tens of millions of poor and cannot afford medical visits and so on. Neither were you content just to have a perhaps competent country in the 13 areas that we had no intention of extending and what happened to the red Indians yet another black mark and even more widely. It would not be so bad if the corporate world domination with military pals was something more principled. In two centuries you have hardly been too principled as a system have you. Even the revolution was started by the money class people so that tradtion is still alive!

I've heard that somewhere before. Oh, yes, it was from you about two or three hundred times.

Expand your horizons, Mr. Howie. Turn your popguns on, oh, let's say, England? Russia? Germany?

Don't bother with Trump or the Koch brothers. They have legions of critics here.

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Reply #20 – 2015-11-03, 21:46:53

You seem to overlook chum that you can have some neo-fanatical stances yourself from time to time but the trouble with oft thinking grey cell people of good education is that they, well don't see the obvious. It doesn't take much of an intelligence to see the head shaking cold War propaganda stuff you dish out on Russia for example. Folk who didn't know you would be surprised you are a former educationalist. Of course you will get shirty at what you see are routine niggles about the great democracy and admit the odd thing that irks you on your land but the hypocrisy is so wide spread and continues all the time and you drift into it. Thinking because you have the proper stance is rather pompous and that anything beyond your view is erroneous is also another weakness. If people here who don't have your wide view says something then a reply on that subject is entitled to be followed. It is called free speech and rights without dozens of spy agencies weakening those two words!

A part excuse from my associate the regular hermit surrounded by books that stop him getting out but such a stand should not include these with grey cells! I am using my new hiking boots for fresh air in lengthy travels and buying a bike.

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Reply #21 – 2015-11-04, 05:13:18

In a sense, I share your animosity towards the Irish terrorists… But what your country did to their ancestors was much like what mine did to the red Indians. The main difference is that we unequivocally won! (Except, we might have to call the D.C. football team something else…

) Yours could have, also; but you wanted to exploit them forever! How'd that work out? :

Quote from: rjhowie on 2015-11-03, 13:46:53

Thinking because you have the proper stance is rather pompous and that anything beyond your view is erroneous is also another weakness.

I suppose it's too much, to ask you to read what you yourself have written; and to understand it — well, pigs ears and silk purses!

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Reply #22 – 2015-11-05, 04:50:05

Must be raining or something outside, eh?

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Reply #23 – 2015-11-06, 06:30:05

I've never minded walking in the rain, RJ… So, I don't quite know what you mean. Would you care to explain?

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Reply #24 – 2015-11-07, 02:51:43

You don't get out enough and get some fresh air!