Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #225 – 2014-01-16, 09:44:16 The thing with Chropera's net installer is that it's a device to facilitate downloading a stillborn product. Is the net installer really making anything better about the product itself? This is the first point against it. The second point against it that it's dowsn't fulfil its stated purpose. The alleged purpose is this: "Opera, being popular in developing and low-bandwidth markets, have seen frequent failed installations due to network and other problems." How is this supposed to help against network problems or low bandwdith? Only a solid download manager of the full installer would help. The Opera net installer is just a downloader for one single program. Worthless.Also: "The new installer will retry downloads if there are problems, ensure the latest version is always the one installed, and enhance security of the installation process." So, it is yet another update-enforcer, adding to net activity, calling home whenever possible, etc? Not just worthless, but outright dangerous. Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #226 – 2014-01-16, 21:01:14 Quote from: ersi – on 2014-01-16, 21:44:16Also: "The new installer will retry downloads if there are problems, ensure the latest version is always the one installed, and enhance security of the installation process." So, it is yet another update-enforcer, adding to net activity, calling home whenever possible, etc? Not just worthless, but outright dangerous. Quick Quote Last Edit: 2014-01-16, 21:40:26 by SmileyFaze
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #227 – 2014-01-17, 12:21:01 I'm sorry. Carry on. Quick Quote Last Edit: 2014-01-17, 14:08:05 by j7n
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #228 – 2014-01-17, 13:30:25 Intentionally divided? By whose intention? Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #229 – 2014-01-21, 14:21:01 Is Opera Mediaworks the reason that Opera has moved the browser to a lower priority? Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #230 – 2014-01-21, 15:29:27 Among one of the reasons, certainly. Change of business interests. Important reason. Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #231 – 2014-01-22, 09:25:27 Quote from: pizzapops – on 2014-01-22, 02:21:01Is Opera Mediaworks the reason that Opera has moved the browser to a lower priority?Quote from: ersi – on 2014-01-22, 03:29:27Among one of the reasons, certainly. Change of business interests. Important reason.A Total Sellout.....Greed, plain old Unadulterated Corporate Greed! Quick Quote Last Edit: 2014-01-22, 18:37:24 by SmileyFaze
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #232 – 2014-01-22, 15:29:37 Quote from: pizzapops – on 2014-01-21, 14:21:01Is Opera Mediaworks the reason that Opera has moved the browser to a lower priority?Surely it is more shiny. It has been fairly successful, the browser much less so. Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #233 – 2014-01-31, 21:32:44 Opera 19 comes with promises (more). That's pretty neat. Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #234 – 2014-02-06, 20:24:05 Well, my question is not exactly about what's happening with Opera but about what happened.Where do I get older versions, Opera 12 for example, to install? I needed it because computers crashes definitively and I want to use what I had not what they offer now.Thank you. Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #235 – 2014-02-06, 20:37:07 Try herewww.opera.com/download/guide/?ver=12.16Cheers Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #237 – 2014-02-06, 21:50:29 If you want a portable version (either for USB or for a local file folder) try here Opera 12.16 Portable Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #238 – 2014-02-06, 22:36:59 Or from here: ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/ Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #239 – 2014-02-06, 22:41:17 Quote from: SmileyFaze – on 2014-02-06, 21:50:29If you want a portable version (either for USB or for a local file folder) try here Opera 12.16 PortableExcept an extra loader, what is the difference between the portable from PortableApps and the native installer (with the USB option checked)? Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #240 – 2014-02-06, 23:39:35 Quote from: krake – on 2014-02-07, 10:41:17Except an extra loader, what is the difference between the portable from PortableApps and the native installer (with the USB option checked)?Why not install it, & see it first-hand for yourself. Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #241 – 2014-02-07, 07:25:49 Quote from: krake – on 2014-02-06, 22:36:59Or from here: ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/You have a greater selection here: http://arc.opera.com/pub/opera/ Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #242 – 2014-02-07, 09:22:57 Quote from: Frenzie – on 2014-02-07, 07:25:49Quote from: krake – on 2014-02-06, 22:36:59Or from here: ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/You have a greater selection here: http://arc.opera.com/pub/opera/Do you? ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/ <=> ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/That should be something trivial (at least for you ).However I gave the second link exactly for the reason to not confuse our Portuguese friend. I bet he is on Windows anyway Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #243 – 2014-02-07, 09:25:07 Quote from: SmileyFaze – on 2014-02-06, 23:39:35Why not install it, & see it first-hand for yourself. I did once, hence my question Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #244 – 2014-02-07, 09:36:05 Quote from: krake – on 2014-02-07, 09:22:57However I gave the second link exactly for the reason to not confuse our Portuguese friend. I bet he is on Windows anywayI inform you, Suevian friend, that I'm right in the process of invading Linux land.My entrance will be memorable and my dominance over the poor linuxers ruthless. Already posting with Opera 12.16 again, thank you. Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #245 – 2014-02-07, 10:15:32 Quote from: Belfrager – on 2014-02-07, 09:36:05My entrance will be memorable and my dominance over the poor linuxers ruthless. You mean linuxistas? Keep in mind Bel, there are also people migrating from Linux to Windows The Review Quick Quote Last Edit: 2014-02-07, 10:37:49 by krake
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #246 – 2014-02-07, 10:22:27 Quote from: krake – on 2014-02-07, 09:22:57Do you? ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/ <=> ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/That should be something trivial (at least for you ).Mais oui! You missed the arc for archive. However, I should've probably linked to http://arc.opera.com/pub/opera/win/ Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #247 – 2014-02-07, 10:34:08 Quote from: krake – on 2014-02-07, 10:15:32linuxistas?Linuxeiros... (Whatever word you choose, they all sound terribly!) Quick Quote
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #249 – 2014-02-07, 17:32:33 Opera is making their old tests publicly available:https://github.com/operasoftware/presto-testoI think it'd be interesting to see how Blink fares. *whistles* Quick Quote