Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming
Reply #537 –
In science the real debate is not emissions are causing climate change. That's long settled. Humanity is. The real questions are by how much and what are the consequences.
Even in this simplistic estimation, your biases predominate: The "long settled" part is political illusion… (Or do you think "affect" and "have an effect" mean "control"? ) Yes, all organisms on Earth have some effect upon their ecologies; if we can't reasonably answer the questions "by how much and with what consequences," then what are we talking about?
I spoke of newer, less polluting and more efficient technologies replacing the old and thus the lower emissions economy could very well have a higher real GDP than the current one.
If such are mature enough, they will accomplish what you say… But shouldn't these "newer, less polluting and more efficient technologies" have to compete with the old?
I'm all for innovation. But I'm not for legislative destruction! (Creative destruction is to be expected… ) All the so-called "green" energy sources available right now are able to provide less than 20% of current usage… And, without government subsidies, they are even less cost-effective.
(There are some -very local- exceptions; we should use and enjoy them!)
Let's jump back to the beginning: What science is there that suggests that human technology is about to or likely to "destroy" the Earth's "climate system"?
If you fall back on the IPCC, you've reverted to the political realm… If you won't read widely in the field, you'll need to rely on authority… If you pick authorities that have been shown to be -shall we say? - untrustworthy, why should your viewpoint be considered?
No coercion? Wow! Tell Obama and his EPA… No corruption? Wow! Tell the EU; or simply scan the results of the measures applied since the Kyoto Protocols… (And don't forget the VW diesel scandal! ) Peer review? Hm. What rock have you been hiding under… It's broken, for reasons that were forecast generations ago…
All that's really left of the CAGW theory is the monied political interests. And their influence will wane, or their efforts will collapse their support…