Where debating everything under the sun is only the beginning

1 After Moses, the servant of the LORD, had died, the LORD said to Moses’ aide Joshua, son of Nun:
2 Moses my servant is dead. So now, you and the whole people with you, prepare to cross the Jordan to the land that I will give the Israelites.

Saharan sand pours onto England. The radio presenter's said it was reported by DEFRA and connected to the Climate Change (sic, with capitals;).

Editors of the Radio 4 Today programme and other BBC news teams have been criticised by MPs for giving political opinions about climate change and scientific fact the same weight of coverage.

For what it's worth: Chicago has recorded its coldest winter since recordings began here. The four Winter months (December, January, February and March) averaged 22F. In that time, we had several days of zero or below F days, enough snow to build an impressive snow fort and a desire to speed things up on global-- or at least local-- warming.

Global warming is the wrong (and exlusively English) term for a real and measurable process. In the 70's and 80's it was called the greenhouse effect. Any denialists of that here? The greenhouse effect does not lead up to uniform soothing warming, but to chaotic turmoil, like a boiling kettle. Somehow everybody forgot this in the end of the 90's, when the issue became politicised.

I'm not making up my mind until rjh sums it up in his usual incisive manner.

For the record, I don't doubt for one minute that the climate is changing. It's been doing that for a long time-- like, before Man ever set foot on the planet.........

.....It will continue to do that long after we're a historic footnote-- provided there's anybody to note the history then.......

....The last glacial period, popularly known as the Ice Age, was the most recent glacial period within the current ice age occurring during the last years of the Pleistocene, from approximately 110,000 to 12,000 years ago.....

What I DO doubt is the effect we have on the global climate, or indeed can have on the climate. I really think we give ourselves too much credit for being able to make changes for good or for evil, and further I have an idea that the jury is still out on what, exactly, is driving climate change. We're like an ant on the shore of the Pacific Ocean, trying to say we understand it and that we have power to change it. I think just maybe we're actually a long way from being able to understand it or make meaningful changes.

It's been doing that for a long time-- like, before Man ever set foot on the planet.

.....it seems that the same scientists turned suddenly into idiots.....

If a consensus means they will get the grants & funding,

if Techs can create an Artificial Mini Sun , then orbits that in outer space .

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