…after watching this video.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkuirEweZvM[/video]
Admittedly, the phone I grew up with during the first 10-12 years of my life or so was already practically an antique when I was born.
What are those letters for? To SMS?:)
On that note, I just found my 20th anniversary edition of The Dark Side of the Moon.
I bought it 20 years ago :faint:
I feel old because I am old. :D
I grew up in a house that had a rotary phone...that is, when my parents could finally afford one.
New technology is expensive. :up:
My first computer? A Tandy-Radio Shack trs-80.
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I used the spreadsheet Visicalc to keep students' test scores and to compute their final grades.
:yes:
I grew up in a house that had a rotary phone...that is, when my parents could finally afford one.
The phone was affordable, but my family was on a five years waiting list to get one.
A waiting list? Now you made me curious: I'll ask my parents what their home situation was like in the late '30s and early '50s.
grew up in a house that had a rotary phone...
Me too, though we were forbidden from using it as it was only to be used by my father for his job.
This was in the 70s... The state phone monopoly was unable to keep up with the increased demand. Basically putting up telephone poles across country I presume, but maybe it was setting up switches or something ridiculous. About the same period they made the transition from manual to automated switching.
The company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telenor#History) that was so ahead of the curve for mobile telephony was way behind the curve for land lines. Later they would dabble in most everything digital, and later Internet, even making a web browser they didn't know what to do with, and that was the start of Opera Software.
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The phone was affordable, but my family was on a five years waiting list to get one.
:confused: I can't imagine that. :confused:
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BTW, what do Global Moderators do? I suspect that they moderate globally. Maybe you could moderate something for me.
BTW, what do Global Moderators do?
Ideally not a lot.
Maybe you could moderate something for me.
If it's about a post use the Report to moderator link next to that post
( I think he's talking about his :beer: habit )
:cheers:
( I think he's talking about his :beer: habit )
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BTW, what do Global Moderators do?
Ideally not a lot.
:idea:
They make The Globe more moderate! ;) :D
BTW, what do Global Moderators do
Ideally not a lot.
Moderately, of course.
Not globally, either?
A waiting list? Now you made me curious: I'll ask my parents what their home situation was like in the late '30s and early '50s.
Okay, I asked. In the 1930s, my grandfather (dad's father) definitely had a home phone because he always had to be reachable for his job. In the 1950s, my mother's parents did not.
What are those letters for? To SMS?:)
The letters used to be part of the phone number, indicating a location for example.
We had a rotary phone that hung on the wall in the kitchen with one of those ultra long cords that could reach thru the house. I can remember havin' To duck under several times as I made my way thru when my parents were on it. Then we had a portable phone toward the end of the 80's. A rather large staticy thing with what was just short of a tower for a antenna. Proper "instillation" of some aluminum to the antenna helped the limited range a bit, iirc.
I'll have to ask mom what she remembers having in the 50's. Judging by some of her stories of growing up in rural Kentucky I suspect she didn't have one until later.
Like this gem?
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How many of us still refer to "dialling" a number?
I do, for one,
Oh look!
I'm a "Full Member"!
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Of what?
How many of us still refer to "dialling" a number?
I do, for one,
Plenty I'd guess, even though many of the younger folks won't know why it's called 'dialling'.
I for one still think 'ATDTxxxxxxx' for dialling xxxxxxx and 'ATH0' for hangup. When was the last time you actually ended a phone call by hanging up? :insane:
Oh look!
I'm a "Full Member"!
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Of what?
You need a higher security clearance to find out. That's a couple of levels up the ladder.
Stick around and eventually become Forum Staff or, better yet, Administrator! I should know, being a Hero Member as I am.
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How many of us still refer to "dialling" a number?
I do, for one,
In Dutch you
bel (ring*) or
choose a number. (The dial tone is called the choosing tone.) I suppose the word ringing is a bit outdated in that you've got no freaking clue what kind of noise the other person's phone may or may not make.
* I.e. ringing a bell is called belling.
When was the last time you actually ended a phone call by hanging up?
Can't have been more than a few years ago. Or just a couple of hours ago, when I
pushed this red buttontouched this red area that said "hang up" on it.
When I first got this phone a couple of years ago, I kept accidentally pushing the home button to end my call—with the result that the call hid itself but remained active.
When was the last time you actually ended a phone call by hanging up?
Can't have been more than a few years ago. Or just a couple of hours ago, when I pushed this red button that said "hang up" on it.
Or 'hang it up.'
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHzgzN9H6QM[/video]
BTW, what do Global Moderators do
Ideally not a lot.
Moderately, of course.
Of course. This a self moderated forum, where moderators seems as the Queen of England.
Just decorative.
But it doesn't help Frenzie... he keeps feeling old. Moderately old, I suppose.
I AM old.
:awww:
I AM old.
:awww:
You have no reason for posting a sad smiley. :)
Of course. This a self moderated forum, where moderators seems as the Queen of England.
Just decorative.
Careful Belfrager, you aren't all that far from serious trouble.
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How many of us still refer to "dialling" a number?
It's a common term; it's used on many cellphones in their menu titles.
When was the last time you actually ended a phone call by hanging up? :insane:
I used to use an old Motorola and purchased a leather casing for it to actually HANG it onto my jeans belt:)
And now, there are cell-phones in the form-factors like flip or slide, which can serve to remind you about actual "hanging-up";)
And now, there are cell-phones in the form-factors like flip or slide, which can serve to remind you about actual "hanging-up"
Now? My wife had to replace her clamshell and I had to replace my slider.
I've got one and a half of such.:)
I, too, am old. I remember the big, black, heavy bakelite phones that we had hanging on the wall, rotary because back then that's all you could get. Touch-tone dialing and push-button phones came out about the time I was in 3rd grade.
Today I use a cell phone, it has limited functionality in today's world but the thing works. Phone etiquette has changed remarkably, people don't say "Good-bye" before "hanging up" anymore-- the line just goes dead and you're talking to nobody. I've had this happen even on professional calls-- the line is just dead because the other person clicked off and that was that.
I don't recall my mother having a rotary phone, however, I remember my grandma had one that was not in use anymore. I'm showing my age, aren't I? :doh:
I'm showing my age, aren't I?
Pretty much the same as mine iirc. :P (However, it's likely that my parents are older.)
I'm showing my age, aren't I?
Pretty much the same as mine iirc. :P (However, it's likely that my parents are older.)
A lot people's parents my age are older than mine. Dad will 52 and mom will be 51 this year.
Phone etiquette has changed remarkably, people don't say "Good-bye" before "hanging up" anymore-- the line just goes dead and you're talking to nobody. I've had this happen even on professional calls-- the line is just dead because the other person clicked off and that was that.
You might be not right on that...
There are two things that the old telephones lacked: battery charge and dependance on the radiosignal. So...
Phone etiquette has changed remarkably, people don't say "Good-bye" before "hanging up" anymore-- the line just goes dead and you're talking to nobody. I've had this happen even on professional calls-- the line is just dead because the other person clicked off and that was that.
Non educated people without excuse.
Here you have the opposite situation, you want to finish the call and have to keep on saying good bye, kisses, whatever, for half an hour...
Yeah, sorry, :-*, Bel, bye-bye! :spock:, :cheers:, :yes:, :bye: ~
Phone etiquette has changed remarkably, people don't say "Good-bye" before "hanging up" anymore-- the line just goes dead and you're talking to nobody. I've had this happen even on professional calls-- the line is just dead because the other person clicked off and that was that.
You might be not right on that...
There are two things that the old telephones lacked: battery charge and dependance on the radiosignal. So...
Err-- ahhh---- about that: The guy I was talking to was using a land-line, company phone when he called. It was an office line, I knew those numbers by heart. When he was done--- the line went dead and that was that. No accident caused by a flaky signal, no weak battery-- just poor phone manners.
You can buy dial up phones. Usually on the net but a major national electrical chain is selling them for something around £56. Candlestick dial ups are also available and I had one. Always liked a dial phone and going to get one.
The old days:
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The old days:
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I'm not too young to remember this. I loved Mario Bros. Last time I play it, I think, I was 16. Had to blow into the cartridge a lot due to it freezing. Seemed to be effective even if it wasn't the right way to correct the problem.
The old days:
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I'm not too young to remember this. I loved Mario Bros. Last time I play it, I think, I was 16. Had to blow into the cartridge a lot due to it freezing. Seemed to be effective even if it wasn't the right way to correct the problem.
lol, Yep, it always solved the problem.
Another two oldies:
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2bE6jzACFQ[/video]
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBShN8qT4lk[/video]
Mind you old is not an illness but as said elsewhere a way of life. I am meeting another lady on Monday for lunch and she is picking me up in her car being so delighted at the prospective company - of course.
The Rolling Stones have cancelled their Australian tour.
A good move.
Old people should be heard and not seen.
Mind you old is not an illness but as said elsewhere a way of life. I am meeting another lady on Monday for lunch and she is picking me up in her car being so delighted at the prospective company - of course.
We old people tend to repeat ourselves
Yes we do. Yes we do. Yes we do.
Now? My wife had to replace her clamshell and I had to replace my slider.
I'm reporting you for pornographic allusions. A pox on your slider. However, I do feel sorry for your poor wife's clamshell operation. Must have been painful.
Err-- ahhh---- about that: The guy I was talking to was using a land-line, company phone when he called. It was an office line, I knew those numbers by heart. When he was done--- the line went dead and that was that. No accident caused by a flaky signal, no weak battery-- just poor phone manners.
Again you may happen to be wrong.
What if the guy just was shot - and fell crushing the telephone up the floor?:)
I, too, am old. I remember the big, black, heavy bakelite phones that we had hanging on the wall, rotary because back then that's all you could get. Touch-tone dialing and push-button phones came out about the time I was in 3rd grade.
A dial-less one?
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My countryside grandmother had something like that. Dialling made no sense as you only called the switchboard anyway. In about a decade that changed into all-digital switching, though still with analog local loop.
Those lines also had the peculiarity that they were shared, one house had to get off the line for another one to call. Of course muxing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplexing) was the motivation for the switch to digital in the first place.
And then there was/is this one.
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Phone etiquette has changed remarkably, people don't say "Good-bye" before "hanging up" anymore-- the line just goes dead and you're talking to nobody. I've had this happen even on professional calls-- the line is just dead because the other person clicked off and that was that.
Non educated people without excuse.
Here you have the opposite situation, you want to finish the call and have to keep on saying good bye, kisses, whatever, for half an hour...
Dead signal would be nice but this has been optimised away too.
Funny, I remember in American movies how they shout into phones "Hello, hello!" as if they didn't hear the dead signal. Was there any? And sometimes they beat the cradle of the phone and - voila - this miraculously restores the connection! What is going on with American phones? Is it just the movies? Or is it really the way NSA designs phones?
When I'm done with a call, I say, "I'm done. Hang up!"
Then I hang up.
You are the old ones but I seem to be the only senior member...
Ahhh maybe Sr. stands for Senhor. Nice detail. :)
SenWhore
Funny, I remember in American movies how they shout into phones "Hello, hello!" as if they didn't hear the dead signal. Was there any? And sometimes they beat the cradle of the phone and - voila - this miraculously restores the connection! What is going on with American phones? Is it just the movies? Or is it really the way NSA designs phones?
A scoop of both.:)
With the old poor movie sound it was natural to depict the "dead line" by the actor on this end expressing that shoutedly.:D As for the "physical repair" -- NAH!:lol: - didn't you live in the USSR not to know about the mechanic sensitivity of most ancient devices?:)
Phone etiquette has changed remarkably, people don't say "Good-bye" before "hanging up" anymore-- the line just goes dead and you're talking to nobody. I've had this happen even on professional calls-- the line is just dead because the other person clicked off and that was that.
Non educated people without excuse.
Here you have the opposite situation, you want to finish the call and have to keep on saying good bye, kisses, whatever, for half an hour...
You hang up first.
No, you.
I'm not. You first
Ok
Did you hang up?
No. Waiting for you to.
My phone beeps when the call is ended by the other party. Prevents talking to nothing I guess.
Given caller ID, saying "hello" is a bit dated. With friends I usually start with something that skips the "hello" -"hey" part.
You hang up first.
No, you.
I'm not. You first
Ok
Did you hang up?
No. Waiting for you to.
Yes, exactly.
No one has to subject to be treated as inexistent because that helps these days nazis.
Telephones are like television, people think that those machines are what we were used to (and so useful things both were) but no, they turn it into behavior manipulation drivers and nothing else.
SenWhore
Oh those on Boulder Hwy. You don't want to know, trust me.
Oh I can remember Tandy/Radio Shack. Here in Gt Britain it was known as Tandy and had shops across Britain including 2 in Glasgow city centre. But the chain the chain disappeared here some years ago. When I was in New York it was of course Radio Shack and I did buy from them whilst there. It was a candlestick phone with a proper dial. Always liked the dial phones and you can get them here on the Net but now a main electrical chain is selling them for £56 so going todecide on a colour get one (you can also still get a dial candlestick phone on the Net).
We still have those. Mostly full of cards for iTunes and mobilephones now. I guess they thought they were keeping up with the times, but in the process they eliminated any reason to go there. Kinda like Opera that way.
Oh I can remember Tandy/Radio Shack. Here in Gt Britain it was known as Tandy and had shops across Britain including 2 in Glasgow city centre. But the chain the chain disappeared here some years ago.
We still have three of them in the area, proof that some things refuse to die.
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Quoting James Brown, I feel good...
A way back in my earlier days there was only one service provider (now a whole lot of them) and in some areas you waited ages to get a landlline. On top of that sometimes it was a shared line. Where we lived at the time it went on for a while and my mother got fed up with it and on the phone to complain. She said it was time they sorted out the nonsense of a shared line and got our own. During the conversation I had to groan. She told them during her harangue that her son was a lieutenant and busy and his captain could not always get through to him a ridiculous situation. However in the heat of her complaint she hadn't told them the ranks were in a national youth movement The Boys' Brigade. We got sorted within the week!
Sometimes small mistakes work just fine.
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Well, I do feel old! But it's not so bad really. I've even got me a new smartphone --one that works. (Of course, I still have a land line set, and an answering machine; and a pager...)
And I finally fixed my old Mac mini!
I begin to see the problems with using a phone to post on forums... 👎 But my phone's predictive suggestions are quite good. (When I think to use them...)
Back to the computer!
I've even got me a new smartphone --one that works.
An iPhone didn't work?!
An iPhone didn't work?!
"iPhone"? I had an
Obama-phone! Made by Motorola. Mechanically, it was superb, and I liked the slide-out keyboard -- well, the screen slid out, revealing the keyboard :) ; but the touchscreen was flaky... One never knew what -if anything- would be launched at a touch. Luckily, it was stolen from me a few years back, from my car's console. (The driver's side window was stuck down for a few years; I only just recently got it fixed...) I wished whoever took it the best of luck! And as much frustration as I'd had.
This new one is a SKY Elite B5 android device. (Opera's
beta mini runs well on it.) I assume you think all Americans are rich? :) (I remember when I first got to the Opera Forums I shocked someone by saying I used a dial-up ISP...) Oh, I should mention the NUBWO
® A9 Bluetooth speaker which set me back about USD 20... It works great; Thailand does have industry, it seems.
I'm currently in the process of recovering my favorite software... Sort of fun, ya know? Like seeing the OS tell me that jEdit won't install... (Just needed the
jre installed first!) Ha! But Panic's old Audion mp3 (and stream) player was gone for good... Oh, well. (Swinsian works fairly well.) I've become a fan of Opera 71; and the new GX is interesting.
(But I still have Opera 11 installed!)
You'd have to call me old-fashioned: I still have, and use, a peripheral floppy disk drive!
I asked about iPhone because I remember you were using a Mac, and Mac users tend to stick to the ecosystem. Mac users being a tight cult, there is a possibility that the cult members leave their old gear and devices to less-well-off members.
I assume you think all Americans are rich? :)
I know (from experience, obviously, which includes you) that Americans like to think they are better off than anyone in the rest of the world, regardless of actual economic status. At other times (when they briefly end up considering economic facts) they fall back to that at least America is free and has liberties, as if the rest of the world did not have it. You keep giving off the same vibe consistently, as in the following,
Thailand does have industry, it seems.
Yeah, who knew some East Asian country could have industry.
Oh, I should mention the NUBWO® A9 Bluetooth speaker which set me back about USD 20...
Can't you get anything on Wish for USD 10 or less? It's a free country, isn't it? (Seriously, Americans have thoroughly ruined the concepts of freedom and liberties, beyond recovery.)
Like seeing the OS tell me that jEdit won't install... (Just needed the jre installed first!)
On a Mac? So Mac is not modern enough to automatically link to dependencies? Good to know that my staying away from Mac has been worth it.
(But I still have Opera 11 installed!)
Why don't you occasionally post with it? (All my email correspondence of this century is accrued in Opera 11.)
Let's start at the end and work our way back to the beginning, eh? :)
It seems I'd got a version of Opera 10 confused with 11... Oops! It hung, repeatedly! Out of frustration I went into its Bookmarks on my old Panther (X 10.3...) system and found an old user's pages (still up and running) and downloaded Opera 11.62, the "11" I remembered: It's using my prefs and such, sharing with the earlier installation.
As you can see, it works just fine!*
Congrats for a successful post on Opera 11 :up:
Why do you prefer jEdit and for what? I personally stay away from anything that requires Java Runtime Environment. In the 00's JRE was difficult to avoid (e.g. "online gaming" of the time) but very easy now.
My fav light text editor is Nano and the heavy one is Emacs. Both are younger than me, according to their release dates in Wikipedia.
I think most of us are older than Emacs, though when I first used it had been around forever. Now that I looked it up, it had only been around about six years. TeX was still new, fresh, and exciting.
Both fortunately, long, long, long behind me.
So Mac is not modern enough to automatically link to dependencies? Good to know that my staying away from Mac has been worth it.
I wasn't installing a package; only a dmg...
What do I use jEdit for? Any type of file used in coding. (Opera's ini files, javascript, HTML, and C and Go source, e.g.) It's a versatile tool. (Not as versatile as Acme -- but then what is? :) ) And it looks good!
(Do you use Windows machines sometimes,
ersi? I'm exploring Wine at the moment...)
About that "who knew" comment: Since the Viet Nam war ended, all I've heard about Thailand concerns its "dens of iniquity" and occasional "civil unrest".
I'm leery of so-called companies that seem based on the swap-meet model so, no, I've not tried Wish. (And I don't shop with my phone!)
I don't get your animosity for Macintosh machines and their operating systems and the people who use them. But I've seen such before, and accept it as a part of life as it is. I don't consider myself a Mac fanatic. I do, however, prefer Macs to PCs. (Were I constrained to a PC, I'd likely install some flavor of Linux. Then I could moan about the dearth of software like Mac users of old used to do! :) One of the serious reasons I "learned" to dislike Microsoft was having to use its Internet Explorer on the Mac. That's how I came to MyOpera Forums: I bought ver 6.03, and wanted to get the manual... :) )
My installation of Opera 11 needs some help: A plague of 404 errors has descended! (But, then, I remember: My history in Chrome should have -if it tallied where it usually took me- listed the Snap! page at the top!) The weirdest thing is that pasting a URL into the address field doesn't work...but typing it does.
Gonna have to do a clean install and forgo my changes while I figure it out. (Perhaps there's something in the Browser Javascript...?)
BTW: I'd gladly return to Microware's Level II os-9, rather than a Windows installation. (I'm looking for a way to set up such a system via emulation of the 6809 processor...) But since this is a new OS X install, I've got to get the developer's stuff all over again. Sigh.
Downloading xCode now; had to go through the Developer channel... :) Been a while!
What do I use jEdit for? Any type of file used in coding. (Opera's ini files, javascript, HTML, and C and Go source, e.g.) [...] And it looks good!
If it cannot run in the terminal, it cannot look good. Java is one of the ugliest languages I know and Java apps are terribly unstable.
In addition to coding, it would be nice if the editor did some good note-taking language, such as markdown, and forum posts. My fav editor is better than yours, because mine can do all that - run in the terminal, has a good note-taking/drafting facility, and it can edit BBCode as used on this forum.
(Do you use Windows machines sometimes, ersi? I'm exploring Wine at the moment...)
I am forced to use Windows at my job. Wine is best avoided. The more elaborate the Windows program, the more glitchy it is in Wine. My plan with moving to Linux was to drop Windows entirely along with all of its programs.
About that "who knew" comment: Since the Viet Nam war ended, all I've heard about Thailand concerns its "dens of iniquity" and occasional "civil unrest".
In what movie was that? I can recommend a different movie.
I don't get your animosity for Macintosh machines and their operating systems and the people who use them. But I've seen such before, and accept it as a part of life as it is. I don't consider myself a Mac fanatic. I do, however, prefer Macs to PCs. (Were I constrained to a PC, I'd likely install some flavor of Linux. Then I could moan about the dearth of software like Mac users of old used to do! :)
Were I constrained to a Mac, I would also install some flavour of Linux on it, as I always do to any computer under my control. I have no liking for Mac because of what it represents. It is not a very deep hatred, because I have had almost no contact with Macs. My hatred for Windows is deeper by far.
There is no dearth of software on Linux. Well, there is some dearth of paid and closed-source software on Linux, but I have no use for such software on any opsys.
My installation of Opera 11 needs some help: A plague of 404 errors has descended!
I moved to Opera 6 first and foremost for its email client, and I still use Opera 11 for email. The browser part always was barely workable, because the web never became compliant. The browser part was (and is) only usable for some geeky testing, custom-styling a long webpage for a comfortable read, and occasional posting on DnD Sanctuary.
If it cannot run in the terminal, it cannot look good.
Yeah. Who need graphics and sound? (I used a windowing system on alpha-numeric terminals, long ago... :) Funky, but it worked! The C code is probably still available...)
I assume you refuse to use a separate monitor, keyboard, and mouse?! Perhaps a Televideo 910 (https://deskthority.net/wiki/TeleVideo_910) would suit you? (I used one for years! Solid keyboard, 19,200 baud communication rate...full duplex, of course. :) )
My fav editor is better than yours
...for what you like to do, perhaps. (Note: It's included on my system too.) I'd ask you, which programming languages does Nano do syntax highlighting for? (Or would you eschew such wimpy reliance on software? :) ) Of course... Wait? What?
I have no liking for Mac because of what it represents. [...] I moved to Opera 6 first and foremost for its email client
Why didn't you just use Emacs for your email? :)
"What it
represents"? As I'd thought: It's a religious thing... :)
If it cannot run in the terminal, it cannot look good.
Yeah. Who need graphics and sound? (I used a windowing system on alpha-numeric terminals, long ago... :) Funky, but it worked! The C code is probably still available...)
I assume you refuse to use a separate monitor, keyboard, and mouse?! Perhaps a Televideo 910 (https://deskthority.net/wiki/TeleVideo_910) would suit you? (I used one for years! Solid keyboard, 19,200 baud communication rate...full duplex, of course. :) )
Looks like a respectable device. I may hunt one down at some point. Currently I am using something similar
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.notebookreview.com%2Fassets%2F8465.jpg&hash=120f3bc0db9acad05b47ec4a0c7148ca" rel="cached" data-hash="120f3bc0db9acad05b47ec4a0c7148ca" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/8465.jpg)
I'd ask you, which programming languages does Nano do syntax highlighting for? (Or would you eschew such wimpy reliance on software? :) )
Nano has been evolving significantly over past ten years or so. On my distro, there always was some syntax highlight as long as I have been on the distro. Output of
ls /usr/share/nano right now:
asm.nanorc
autoconf.nanorc
awk.nanorc
changelog.nanorc
cmake.nanorc
c.nanorc
css.nanorc
default.nanorc
elisp.nanorc
email.nanorc
extra
go.nanorc
groff.nanorc
guile.nanorc
html.nanorc
java.nanorc
javascript.nanorc
json.nanorc
lua.nanorc
makefile.nanorc
man.nanorc
markdown.nanorc
nanohelp.nanorc
nanorc.nanorc
nftables.nanorc
objc.nanorc
ocaml.nanorc
patch.nanorc
perl.nanorc
php.nanorc
po.nanorc
python.nanorc
ruby.nanorc
rust.nanorc
sh.nanorc
sql.nanorc
tcl.nanorc
texinfo.nanorc
tex.nanorc
xml.nanorc
Why didn't you just use Emacs for your email? :)
For that I should have gotten into Emacs much earlier. I only got into it very recently. Org mode won me over.
"What it represents"? As I'd thought: It's a religious thing... :)
Yes, that's what I am talking about. For example.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFhjDX-DUew[/video]
Well drifting back to the starting picture I decided to replace a second phone in a room upstairs so got one with the dial up and also in my favourite colour of orange. Brings back old memories when I use it and the dial whirs round with that lovely sound, Had also missed the dial style and putting up with pressing buttons (until at least upstairs) !
For someone who "reads" the news for a living, you seem extremely gullible... Your example above is a commercial for "a transformational coach and motivational speaker who works one-on-one with individuals to reach magical new heights in. (sic)" :)
For someone who "reads" the news for a living, you seem extremely gullible... Your example above is a commercial for "a transformational coach and motivational speaker who works one-on-one with individuals to reach magical new heights in. (sic)" :)
You are the gullible one, if you thought I would pick anything but the most insulting material for you. I could have picked this rant by a tech pro, but you'd fail to appreciate his expertise and it would be no fun.
Anyway, here it is, and it makes the same point you correctly identified: It's a religious thing when it comes to Apple fans.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUaJ8pDlxi8[/video]
Eh? I make allowances for the country you live in Oaky but what was that guff about a dial phone?!
what was that guff about a dial phone?!
I'm curious, too,
RJ: What are you talking about?
Your last contribution puzzling.
Your last contribution puzzling.
I merely asked what you thought I'd said (https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=253.msg84975#msg84975) about dial phones that you considered "guff"... Indeed: What
did I say about dial phones?
It looked odd but so you can relax and get a decent sleep (!) I always loved the old dial phones so why I bought one for my bedroom upstairs!Bright orange (of course) and lovely to hear the sound when I dial. Ah, like enjoying a cuddle from a pretty woman. :up:
Is this a case of "You can take the boy out of Glasgow, but you can't take Glasgow out of the boy"? :)
(Just another instance of Howie waxing erotic!)
Take Glasgow out of a boy? Shocking thing. :rolleyes: