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Title: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: rjhowie on 2016-09-13, 03:20:16
I came across this item by Dr Paul and it does seem to have some cause for concern. Came across this by chance and it is a bit concerning so what do you think?
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: rjhowie on 2016-09-13, 03:21:45
Ooops. Overlooked putting in the link! (the one following is also a worry).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yTWtm-mUJE
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2016-09-13, 06:09:18
You do realize Dr. Paul is delivering a sales-pitch…? :)
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: Belfrager on 2016-09-13, 23:18:48
There is no US economy.
The USA use fake money and impose it to the world with nuclear weapons. Never saw any "economist" study about such method.
The only approach I know about it is the International Court of Haya for War Crimes.

Many Americans are simply honest hard workers that don't have any idea about what they are supporting.
There's no US economy, just US financial criminals.
And I don't care. The system will destroy itself.
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: ensbb3 on 2016-09-14, 00:18:05
Don't you have to ask the rest of Europe before commenting on economics?

Oh wait. That's the problem. Portuguese clearly have no idea how such a thing works.
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: rjhowie on 2016-09-14, 01:00:25
I know what Paul's political background is but with the state of the economy he has raised  an important issue which has been dragging on and he does touch on a seriousness.
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2016-09-14, 06:37:30
He's like a kid picking his scabs… You're like a kid picking the scabs of others.

Of course, RJ will watch "infomercials" — it telly, i'n'it? :)

I confess, I didn't watch Paul's video all the way through: He's been saying the same things for 30 years… He couldn't convince his cohort in the House, and he couldn't convince the electorate. (He apparently could convince RJ… Wonder why?) What does Paul suggest we do, RJ? I mean, you watched it, right? You understood it, right?
I await your reply…
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: rjhowie on 2016-09-16, 06:24:42
He cannot get where he wants because the corporates run the place hece the mess and a dodgy future coming.
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: Colonel Rebel on 2016-09-19, 15:53:25
I would point out that the UK has been run by "corporates" (trademark term to @rjhowie) for over 300 years now (empire years and not), but for all the good it would do, I can't be arsed to do so, 'cept subtly so.
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: rjhowie on 2016-09-20, 00:57:02
Baloney as usual when an ex-colonist cannot deal with the truth. You have a "parliament" controlled by 2 lots who are big money controlled. If you lot were not so boastful about being the greatest country still playing imperialistic stuff on the planet and creating wars where you cannot automatically control business you could have something. Unfortunately your people have been conned especially re money and fine you know it and look what you have in the election, Trump and Clinton.  You used to list the debts in your submissions so cannot fault you for not longer advertising them!

Many over there are concerned about the way things are run but are stuck with the Dems and Reps and the strings that pull them so can understand how frustrating it can be for you sad folk hen it comes to money and routine economics. All that dough spent on military at the expense of your economy and so many of your people?  :down:
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: Belfrager on 2016-12-02, 23:21:52
Topic: US Economy - what do you think??
Curious about Trump. I foresee a complete disaster.
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2016-12-03, 00:19:23
I foresee a complete disaster.
Hm… I thought your religion forbade prognostication. Or have you reasons for your "foreseeing"? :)
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: rjhowie on 2016-12-03, 01:15:49
Although i dealt with the colonel he does fall into the daft trap of musing that everyone else has been corporated like nutjobland. This in practice is not true of course but is always an excuse to hive away from the home truth.

We of course do not know if President Trump will be a disaster and have to wait and proverbially see. We got all sorts of guff when President Obama came in and he will go down in history as just another President with nothing much to boast about. Tru7mp has said that les time should be spent on not destroying other countries and so on having a better association with Russia and more effort be made inside America. Something I have been saying for damn ages.
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: Belfrager on 2016-12-03, 16:42:56
Hm... I thought your religion forbade prognostication.
For someone that lives in a place where Catholicism is the biggest religion around you seem to be very much ignorant about it.
Yes, I know, you join togheter all the protestan sects at a desperate way to deny Catholicism superiority.

Anyway American Catholicism is a very peculiar one. Maybe His Holyness should put the place in order and alligned with the rest.

As for economics, Trump will be a disaster. It will mater much more to you than to me, so if you don't believe it it's your problem, not mine.
For what is known, the constitution of his government seems to be a total joke. His phone call to the Paquistanese president, an hallucination in terms of American image.
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: rjhowie on 2016-12-03, 17:00:17
Well I would think we will get to know reasonably not too far in the future and we must remember that all sorts of stuff was dished out as to how wonderful President Obama would be. Trouble is that the country is stuck with a damnable thing that passes for a political system and much of it does not even touch tens of millions of Americans. If trump sticks by his direction of less grandiose US military nonsense that would be a positive step and get away from the built-in tradition of destabilising or invading countries that do not give in to the imperial juggernaut.

If Trump does well, hey, I might go to Portugal for a holiday.....
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: midnight raccoon on 2016-12-03, 17:28:12
Trump will be a disaster.
That depends on what his actual policies become. Unfortunately, he keeps changing what he says what he plans to do. For instance, at first his tax plan was going to favor the rich (in fact, it's been determined that his original plan would cause 8 million middle class people to pay more tax, not less....), now he's saying that he'll give a middle-class tax cut and eliminate many deduction enjoyed by the rich. That actually sounds a lot like a Democratic plan.

However, he hasn't flip-flopped on his imbecilic trade policy yet with 45% tax on imported Chinese goods. Inflation, followed by recession here we come with that jackassary - unless that's just a bluff for the Chinese. In which case, of course, we can expect him to backtrack on that too.

He's going on a "Thank You" tour. What we need from him is coherent policy speech, not a series of rallies, that will tell us once and and for all what he plans to. That applies to all issues. He lives in the moment and says whatever suits him and his audience at the time, even if it completely contradicts what he said last week.  Until he does that, the fear some hold about what he'll do the economy will remain unassuaged nor actually know what else he plans to do.

Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: midnight raccoon on 2016-12-03, 17:31:45
If trump sticks by his direction of less grandiose US military nonsense
Howie, you understand that Trump's stated foreign policy is more aggressive and militaristic than Obama's, right. A while back, some Iranian sailors made rude gestures at an America ship. Obama let the incident pass, but Trump said he would attack. Remember this is the guy that actually asked at his intelligence briefing why he can't use nuclear weapons. That's what got me scared shitless about him.
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2016-12-03, 19:18:42
That's what got me scared shitless about him.
Nonsense: What got you scared, first, was that he might win the election… Now what scares you is that he may be a successful president!

I suppose his selection of General Mattis as SecDef doesn't impress you, either. :)
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: Belfrager on 2016-12-03, 22:52:33
If Trump does well, hey, I might go to Portugal for a holiday.....
When you arrive to Portugal, you'll be the delight of pickpockets...
Unless I take care of you, something that I'll never do for a protestant. :)
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: rjhowie on 2016-12-04, 02:42:59
As there somewhere between 50 - 60,000 Prots in Portugal then me that is an awful lot of us to ignore!  :lol:
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2016-12-04, 04:09:41
Howie, since when -specially in your "wide" democracy- do numbers count? :)

That's one of the reasons Thatcher was so successful: She understood your system; you don't…
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: rjhowie on 2016-12-05, 01:25:11
Well we have a system nutjob supporter.
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: Belfrager on 2016-12-05, 23:56:21
Since "US Economy" will affect us all, beter to pay some attention to it.
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: ersi on 2016-12-06, 00:02:06
Since "US Economy" will affect us all, beter to pay some attention to it.
Which stocks did you buy?
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: Belfrager on 2016-12-06, 00:32:32
Which stocks did you buy?
None, I've moved out of capitalist economy for some time ago.

Don't forget that US economy is based at a mix of fake money and the weaponery to impose it to the world.
The day you'll have the weapons to resist them, I will listen to you.
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: rjhowie on 2016-12-06, 00:36:29
You are in a dream dear man waffling that you are outside the capitalist corner. People cannot exist without it out of dreamland.
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: Colonel Rebel on 2017-10-25, 18:21:55
I think that the Middle Class, which includes me, are being asked to once again, for the umpteenth time since that degenerate insane bastard in the 1980’s started pushing voodoo economics, pick up the tab and pay more in taxes so Trump and his buddies don’t have to pay any damn taxes, and corporations can have their taxes cut from 39.5 % to 12.5 %.

I say piss off to the lot of them. This is what the country gets for once again electing a really bad actor/ tv personality.
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: rjhowie on 2017-10-26, 03:40:36
You do have a reasonable point there. It is unfortunate for the ex-colonies corner that the middle class who fund the place are being ill treated and strained while the corporate barons get away with a hypocrisy stance. Many of the less well off may well have voted for him as they have felt out of things for so long and what a terrible indictment for the country to vote in Trump. It may well be fine in a general principle to have a non-politician for a change but for goodness sake it is head shaking to have him as a leader and also be a nuisance not only inside the country but elsewhere.

I'd suffer living in Edinburgh instead of the centre of the Universe along with a picture of the Pope. Hhhm, on second thoughts not the picture...... :o
Title: Re: US Economy - what do you think??
Post by: Belfrager on 2017-11-07, 00:46:41
I think that the Middle Class, which includes me
Once, the secretary of Cardinal Richelieu asked him why always keep on charging the middle classes.
Richelieu answer him:
- You can't charge the poor, they have nothing to pay;
- You can't charge the rich men, they're too much powerful and will revenge on you;
- Only the middle classes, with their infinite greed in getting rich, will accept forever no matter how much you charge them.

Et voilá.  :)