The DnD Sanctuary

In parliament it is not the usual routine to clap but when a Prime Minister makes his last comments people usually acknowledge the position. The Conservatives stood up and applauded and the official Opposition Labour sat which is fair enough but courteously applauded and so to did the other parties except one corner. There the Scot Nats with their usual arrogance sat there stony faced and did not go along with the other parties. Their leader in the Commons is a pompous, arrogant snooty git and their bad manners says much.

Scottish ignorance is nothing new.

Woo-oo!. Subtle as a brick.  :P

Don't know why Mr. Howie is complaining. Once the Scots leave the UK, there will be an influx of English and Welsh to move to Scotland before they leave. They will be paying his retirement, so start playing "O Flower of Scotland" is what he should be saying. :right:

Once the Scots leave the UK, there will be an influx of English and Welsh to move to Scotland before they leave.

Maybe that's exactly why he's complaining.

Typical ex-colonists nonsense. If something is not understood or perhaps politically inept then not very subtle digs are handy to fall back on.  May i now further enlighten by saying the Scots economy under the nationalists is not doing very well and employmet in the same boat unlike the rest of the UK. Sturgeon the wee wiffie in the high heels (needs them or you would miss her) keeps occasionally yakking about the possibility of another referendum and she has had to do that becaue apart from SNP people who use brains there is a whole lot of their camp followers who are more militant and she is trying to keep them in their side.At the same time she is not up to using all the powers available and she knows too damn well that the collapse of oil and the economy freezing IS a problem. Tough but self-created.

Nice try colonel but just yawned.

All this, from people sitting on their hands? What about the people playing pocket-pool? :)

I'm still not saying how the UK is any better off than the US. English voters approved Brexit for about the same jackass reasons active Trump supporters choose their assclown as candidate. Maybe the Scottish economy isn't doing that great under the SNP, so what do you think Brexit will do to your economy? In that light, it makes more another Scottish independence referendum should Article 50 actually get invoked than the original one. It does make some sense if what you say about the Scottish economy is true; nationalists and revolutionaries tend to not know what to do if they're actually in power.

Americans did… :) It seems to have worked out pretty well, for us.

You keep trying to be funny Oaky as it covers your lacking boy.

Yes I stand by my point on the Nationalists and my stance on heir leader is unchanged as she knows nothing is automatic for the SNP any longer. At the recent Scottish Parliament Elections the SNP votes were down. The Scots Tories romped into second place being a strong Unionist corner and doubled their number of seats to 30. As I detailed even a former advisor to the previous First Minister that arrogant man, Salmond lost her set in Edinburgh to the Tories.. The revised powers of the Scottish government are some of the strongest of any localised power in the world but the Nats are holding back because of the crashing of oil and thousands of oil workers not sacked. They have been in power for 9 years and the usual guff when challenged on failings is "we are working on it." Eh - after all those years? Sturgeon in addition has a very great problem in the camp followers the SNP has. They are rowdy, ignorant and caused problems in streets during the elction and she is trying to balance the difficulty the SNP has running things and yakking on about another possible referendum to keep the camp followers happy. Great principled wee woman??

That the Scottish Conservative Party surged to those 30 seats and kicked Labour to the side, Sturgeon knows she has to be careful hence all the rubbish about visiting the EU when in hard facts she can do sod all. Scotland is IN the UK and she is clutching at straws whilst trying to keep the camp followers on board.

Next week I will be in a traditional organisation parade and at the head of each section will be the Union Flag and the Scottish Saltire (which the damn Nats act as if theirs)

Proud to be Scots
Proud to be British
 :knight:

Next week I will be in a traditional organisation parade and at the head of each section will be the Union Flag and the Scottish Saltire (which the damn Nats act as if theirs)

That's right. The annual prancing around in the streets with gay orange sashes. Being the resident expert on gaity around here, I hereby pronounce the parade as hella gay.

I texted these gentlemen to inform them that I need them to be 20% gayer at once to keep up with Scotland!

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:)

Being the resident expert on gaity around here,

You're not the expert on, you are the very thing. You just don't have the courage to assume it.

You keep trying to be funny Oaky as it covers your lacking boy.

Yes I stand by my point on the Nationalists and my stance on heir leader is unchanged as she knows nothing is automatic for the SNP any longer. At the recent Scottish Parliament Elections the SNP votes were down. The Scots Tories romped into second place being a strong Unionist corner and doubled their number of seats to 30. As I detailed even a former advisor to the previous First Minister that arrogant man, Salmond lost her set in Edinburgh to the Tories.. The revised powers of the Scottish government are some of the strongest of any localised power in the world but the Nats are holding back because of the crashing of oil and thousands of oil workers not sacked. They have been in power for 9 years and the usual guff when challenged on failings is "we are working on it." Eh - after all those years? Sturgeon in addition has a very great problem in the camp followers the SNP has. They are rowdy, ignorant and caused problems in streets during the elction and she is trying to balance the difficulty the SNP has running things and yakking on about another possible referendum to keep the camp followers happy. Great principled wee woman??

That the Scottish Conservative Party surged to those 30 seats and kicked Labour to the side, Sturgeon knows she has to be careful hence all the rubbish about visiting the EU when in hard facts she can do sod all. Scotland is IN the UK and she is clutching at straws whilst trying to keep the camp followers on board.

Next week I will be in a traditional organisation parade and at the head of each section will be the Union Flag and the Scottish Saltire (which the damn Nats act as if theirs)

Proud to be Scots
Proud to be British
 :knight:

You forgot to add, "Proud to be Independent", and regarding Scottish Independence, "Never Surrender!!!!"

So right in that last bit colonel.

As for midnight's satirical stuff, it doesn't take him much to fall back on his shirt lifter pals as an attempt at well, nothing! In addition i won't tell them where to stick the rainbow flags either as I only take pride in our national ones.

The SNP is a bit like Brigadoon and tries to aappeal to traditional Scottishness as if it was there fiefdom an no-one else's.  When they hd a parade through Edinburgh before the referendum in Edinburgh in actual fact they did not really amount to anything outstanding however when my Orange Order paraded in numbers for the Union to remain it vastly squashed that lot and drew a bigger crowd. Of course I know there are those who get carried away with SNP propaganda and when I spoke to a young woman in her late twenties who said she was voting yes to the independence referendum she could not give me  proper answer. At a local bus stop I got into a passing chat with a student in her mid-twenties who became very vicious when i said I was staying in and went ballistic. All very emotional but a load of cobblers.  When they had tables out in a main street in Glasgow city centre (no trafic) I challenged them and slagged them off as modern 18th century Jacobites and when one made the poor attempt at challenging me I reminded him that when there MP's came to Westminster they all wore white roses which had beedn the symbol of that bunch of Stewart Jacobites!

That wee mouth Sturgeon the Leader does have a very big problem with the more nasty followers who called people all sorts of names. They cursed and swore at NO spekars on the street and even threatened violence, etc. Well she helped create them and  her damn problem.

I am Scots a staunch loyalist and British/Scots. My ancestors did not give into a merciless king and fought until freedom in 1688 (thank you William of Orange!) so I stand by our old comments such as  - Not and inch -- No surrender!

ps The Howie monument is going on my new notepaper (and yes there is such a thing)

As for midnight's satirical stuff, it doesn't take him much to fall back on his shirt lifter pals as an attempt at well, nothing!

I don't know what you're talking about. Gay, as you've explained, means happy. Those gentlemen are smiling and happy, just as Orangemen are about their festivities. However, I feared they weren't being as gay as Orangemen are in their parade, so I texted them to cheer them up so they would be happier. :yes:

That being said, these Orangemen appear confused.
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I don't have their phone numbers, so maybe I can figure how to get in touch with them on Facebook and cheer them up.

It remains unclear at this time if this gentleman lifts his skirt, but one would certainly hope not! :insane:

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So right in that last bit colonel.

As for midnight's satirical stuff, it doesn't take him much to fall back on his shirt lifter pals as an attempt at well, nothing! In addition i won't tell them where to stick the rainbow flags either as I only take pride in our national ones.

The SNP is a bit like Brigadoon and tries to aappeal to traditional Scottishness as if it was there fiefdom an no-one else's.  When they hd a parade through Edinburgh before the referendum in Edinburgh in actual fact they did not really amount to anything outstanding however when my Orange Order paraded in numbers for the Union to remain it vastly squashed that lot and drew a bigger crowd. Of course I know there are those who get carried away with SNP propaganda and when I spoke to a young woman in her late twenties who said she was voting yes to the independence referendum she could not give me  proper answer. At a local bus stop I got into a passing chat with a student in her mid-twenties who became very vicious when i said I was staying in and went ballistic. All very emotional but a load of cobblers.  When they had tables out in a main street in Glasgow city centre (no trafic) I challenged them and slagged them off as modern 18th century Jacobites and when one made the poor attempt at challenging me I reminded him that when there MP's came to Westminster they all wore white roses which had beedn the symbol of that bunch of Stewart Jacobites!

That wee mouth Sturgeon the Leader does have a very big problem with the more nasty followers who called people all sorts of names. They cursed and swore at NO spekars on the street and even threatened violence, etc. Well she helped create them and  her damn problem.

I am Scots a staunch loyalist and British/Scots. My ancestors did not give into a merciless king and fought until freedom in 1688 (thank you William of Orange!) so I stand by our old comments such as  - Not and inch -- No surrender!

ps The Howie monument is going on my new notepaper (and yes there is such a thing)

Would you post a link/picture to this Howie monument please?

Here you are....
https://canmore.org.uk/collection/1144335
https://canmore.org.uk/collection/1144339
https://canmore.org.uk/collection/1144219

During the 17th century the King attempted to force Episcopacy on the Presbyterians up here and change the Church of Scotland.  large numbers of Scots had signed a Covenant sheet (250,000)  in an Edinburgh church yard sheet defending their tradition. Many ministers were forced out of kirks and instead had services out in country areas but many raided by the king's soldiers and imprisoned or executed.  These Covenanters would not give in to a bad monarch and the farmhouse at Lochgoin (sometime known as the Howie farmhouse) was the scene for services. John Howie wrote a great book on the Covenanters who refused to give in and they continued until the arrival of William Prince of Orange who rescued them. At one service at the farm  the people heard the thunder of fast hooves and thought it might be soldiers but someone shouted it was not and called "It is John Howie. Maybe he has news for us?" He drew the horse up and shouted to the local laird and the crowd. "Huzzah, huzzah, Scotland hs declared for Prince William we are free."

In the farmhouse to this day there is a room set aside with a large Bible a Covenanter's flag etc and a drum along with a visitor's book. The Covenanters would not give in no matter what was done to them and the Howies would never include .surrender. as an option and I contentedly maintain that stance today! The book written in the early 1800's on those great Prot heroes by John Howie is out of print but I managed to get  copy (from the Sottish Protestant Union  :yes: )

Here you are....
https://canmore.org.uk/collection/1144335
https://canmore.org.uk/collection/1144339
https://canmore.org.uk/collection/1144219

During the 17th century the King attempted to force Episcopacy on the Presbyterians up here and change the Church of Scotland.  large numbers of Scots had signed a Covenant sheet (250,000)  in an Edinburgh church yard sheet defending their tradition. Many ministers were forced out of kirks and instead had services out in country areas but many raided by the king's soldiers and imprisoned or executed.  These Covenanters would not give in to a bad monarch and the farmhouse at Lochgoin (sometime known as the Howie farmhouse) was the scene for services. John Howie wrote a great book on the Covenanters who refused to give in and they continued until the arrival of William Prince of Orange who rescued them. At one service at the farm  the people heard the thunder of fast hooves and thought it might be soldiers but someone shouted it was not and called "It is John Howie. Maybe he has news for us?" He drew the horse up and shouted to the local laird and the crowd. "Huzzah, huzzah, Scotland hs declared for Prince William we are free."

In the farmhouse to this day there is a room set aside with a large Bible a Covenanter's flag etc and a drum along with a visitor's book. The Covenanters would not give in no matter what was done to them and the Howies would never include .surrender. as an option and I contentedly maintain that stance today! The book written in the early 1800's on those great Prot heroes by John Howie is out of print but I managed to get  copy (from the Sottish Protestant Union  :yes: )

Much appreciated, and an interesting read! :cheers:

Yes and it can be clearly seen from the main road well south of Glasgow near Eaglesham and my late mother wanted to go and see it which she did before she passed away. My brother drove us and my late father' brother down on a balmy afternoon. The Covenanters were strong people and would not give in and my tradition was well into that!
I hope one day to arrange a "conventicle" service of my fellow Orangemen down there at the farmhouse and monument on our traditional theme of not surrendering and as an Ulster famous political leader said before the split over in Ireland, "Not an inch."

On the general thread the Uni professor who taught that wee mouth woman Nicola Sturgeon Law (she should have stuck with that instead of politics.) has publicly been critical of her. Says she is wrong in her attitude and that the SNP is strictly controlled and told what to think and say. Unlike other parties who wil sometimes have people exercising their thinning on an issue that is a no-no with the independence freaks.  The SNP has been very critical of other parties where people are cumfy and business minded and yet at the weekend it was revealed by a newspaper of a list of SNP MPs and MEPS who are commercial and not short of a few quid.

As an aside to the routine SNP stuff i find it very interesting how much of the Muslim community here are SNP inclined. One SNP Minister in the Scottish Government has a complete highland dress he sometimes wears! (her constituency has a large swell from that corner!) It is perhaps unfair when someone once wondered why sturgeon and her husband had no children but that maybe could not be solved but she would have been better spending all that over the top emotional stuff on adopting a child and that would have been nice.  And another aside is the number of nationalist Brigadoon mentals who are Republican but try to be discreet on it on votes. Such hypocrisy..

We have had massive sums spent changing names on every railway station platform signs in Scotland. There are only 50,000 who speak that tongue and could fill the town across the city boundary from me (Clydebank). Now I don't mind a traditional tongue for an area to get help but far to much is dished out for this and a nationalist nonsense. But not all there's as the Glasgow City Council re-did a Secondary School in the city as a Gaelic Secondary (11 - 17 years) and they are Labour!  Along my avenue a Nat has a big pole and Scottish saltire flag which annoys because they have more or less stole that as it it is theirs which is annoying. So the order is going in for a union Flag and pole for my front garden and next week when out on parade with my associates every section is always led by a Union Flag AND Scots Saltire.

No surrender!  :knight:  :hat:

I suppose not many hear have looked at the PM Question Time which rjh was referring to in his OP, but I did and can confirm what he said about it.

A little background though; The SNP is Scotland is single-mindedly pursuing a policy of independence for Scotland regardless of the result of the Scottish Referendum and it dominates everything they do. The Strategy in Westminster, where they have several Members of Parliament, is to disagree with everything and whinge about the rest. It is part of a general strategy of sowing discord in the UK in the hope that Scottish and English will turn against each other and increase the chances of Scottish separation. Fortunately it has not had quite that effect since the majority of opinion in Scotland has, by the latest poll, shown much the same as it was during the Referendum a couple of years ago.

The PM Question time differed from the usual formal with a lot of tributes and good wishes given for Cameron's future extended by all sides of the house, spiced with humour and only the mildest of political digs. The SNP were quite different and I would imagine that most non-SNP in Scotland were embarrassed by the SNP display of surly hostility. It was clearly partr of the enrqal policy of sowing enmity .

There is some chance that the SNP Government will go for a new referendum on some pretext; not a great chance however  because they want to make sure the dice is loaded in their favour first. They calculated that Brexit (a silly decision in my view) would annoy the Scots (who voted strongly against it) and tip the balance in their favour but this has not happened. If the SNP organise a Referendum I doubt that it will be given legal status by the UK Government on several grounds, not the least of which is that a Referendum has just been held and also that there is insufficient case made for another referendum during this period of flux.

The reason why Sturgeon mouth keeps every few days suggesting another referendum is due to the camp followers she has who are getting tetchy. She has said before they would need to see a poll where they have 60% support to have a vote and knows fine well in her own brain that is NOT there but has to cope with all those despicable and arrogant people who are  hell bent. Instead the SNP government should be acting like a government  but don't Scotland#s biggest trade is with south of the damn border not Europe. The same Nats merged all the police forces into one and what have we had? Errors, mistakes, police stations closed and a mess-up. Health matters and education are both trailing. The utterly ridiculous thing they brought in on supervising every child in Scotland was like something out of the old Soviet Union. Every child would get an appointed person to link with every kid born up to 18 years of age.  Thankfully people rallied, raised funds and too the matter to the UK Supreme Court who declared it all illegal.  Now as they are taking over matters of tax and Welfare payments they are saying the word "welfare payments" must stop? Uh? Projects get delayed and schools worse off. time after damn time when Sturgeon is forced away from all the emotional Scottish cries and pushed as to why their are police, health, project failings, unemploymen and economy in decline what do we get? "Yes we know there are problems but we are working on them." Nine years into running things and we are still getting that utter stupid answer mode.

The signs are, from the SNP Collective, that Sturgeon will call for a new Referendum the day after the UK invokes Clause 50. It may be bluff on Sturgeon's part but that is what NP Members are trumpeting.

Recently she demanded of Theresa May that Scotland conducts its own negotiation with the EU, which May has refused because it is a UK responsibility. She will argue that Scotland should leave the UK during the period of 2 years that the Negotiation may take and thus have a "shoe-in" for EU Membership. She's wrong on several counts of course, but some are gullible enough to fall for the argument. .... and that includes Sturgeon herself.

However I think she has now put herself and her party in a lose/lose situation but she has not yet realised it.

Yes you have a point there.

Sturgeon has time after time come out with this guff about the possibility of another Referendum and why> Because the more mouthy and arrogant people who flocked to their corner are making life difficult for her. She has always leaned towards the need to have 60% of Scots wanting what she wants and she knows too damn well in that she has a problem. Even on the European referendum they came out with some vicious stuff. One SNP MEP said he would not deal with Barrhead travel (has over 800 staff) because the own was a Brexit man. Other company owners got the same thing. Even that writer, Rowling got terrible abuse and it puts pressure on mouthy Sturgeon but she has brought it on herself. During the Scots Referendum, Nationalists also came out on streets and they cursed and swore at the leader on a party opposing them to the point of spitting and threatening violence.

The Independence bunch of brain misfits are full of being emotional and historical twits. It is a narrow mindedness as well. It is beyond their childish emotion that somehow it is not  to be Scots and British. At snarling at that a Pakistani Muslim  SNP Minister who wears Highland gear is perfectly fine though. Uh?? It is all control freakery. Now the latest failing by these Scottish Nose Pickers (real meaning of SNP??) is that as well as the police amalgamation mess, the national health Service and education issues Scotland is the worst place in GB for  the state of roads. The Nats are modern Jacobites with or without those daft white flowers that were worn away back at the time of the Battle of Culloden. They were beaten then by an army made up of as many Scots as English and that was brilliant and I will maintain the Culloden tradition in 2016! :knight:

Is this (https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=2403.msg64415#msg64415) the "wider" democracy you'd wish upon your cousins across the sea? If so, you're a vile man! :)

During the Scots Referendum, Nationalists also came out on streets and they cursed and swore at the leader on a party opposing them to the point of spitting and threatening violence.

Just like the nawbags did to anyone from the yes side. I still see abuse daily on Twitter from the nawbags. If you want to see some really vile stuff read the comments after your first minister posts something on Twitter. Now that really is abuse.

Dear oh dear what a typical type of answer that one is.

When it comes to the arguments on the net and electronic world the modern Jacobites were away ahead of the opposition b a mile and that was also obvious in the media. On the actual street situations the  Nats were even further ahead when it came to abuse, public threats of violence and nastiness.  Sturgeon tried to keep a distance but at one point she was almost forced to have to say something' When the then leader of the labour lot was out taking his soap box round he had a hell of a time. He was cursed at, empty heads going right up to his face, pushing people and he had to break off and leave due to the level of possible violence and determination to stop him. It wasn't traditional heckling but damn well far worse.

Sturgeon is in a spit as I emphasised now because she has set a 60% support for a referendum and came out with that because the army of people like those crass neo-violents in the street are pushing. They lost votes at that recent Scottish Election and helped boost the Conservative and Unionist surge.  As i also said that former advisor to mouth former SNP leader lost her constituency Edinburgh seat to Tory leader Davidson! They no longer have a straightforward majority but depend on that group of nutball Greens. So she has had to be very careful knowing that another Referendum might prove difficult. At the same time getting pressurised by the daft emotional brainless.

The collapse of the oil situation, police shambles, education, health, roads and so on have shown the incompetence and they have to rely on that emotional Scottish nonsense instead of being able to govern. She has helped create an army of ignorant and abusive people  either in the party or those supporting them. So the only real thing the Jacobites have won is the level of mental midgets they have and way in front of the opposite side.

The collapse of the oil situation, police shambles, education, health, roads and so on have shown the incompetence and they have to rely on that emotional Scottish nonsense instead of being able to govern. She has helped create an army of ignorant and abusive people  either in the party or those supporting them. So the only real thing the Jacobites have won is the level of mental midgets they have and way in front of the opposite side.

Good that you've now officially acknowledged what is wrong with Scotland. Well done old fella! :cheers:

Had anyone else posted that, you would have said they'd been wrong.

Being someone who marches in parades, and given that you've now signed off on what is wrong with your lot, I'll leave you with this. Methinks were you to give collegiate football a watch, you'd like it, what with the bands constantly playing and all:


[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPMRc_YEDmM[/video]
(Ole Miss alma mater, Fight song (Forward Rebels), Hotty Toddy chant, Dixie (fast), pep chant, Go Rebels go, From Dixie with Love)

RJ no matter how many times you repeat garbage it is still garbage.
As I've said before you have nothing original to say.

Dear oh dear, Luxor. Because the truth is too hard to bear you come out with guff. All I have said on the issue of the SNP (their ohter explanation of the initials is Scottish Nose Pickers). it's all emotional bunkum and each of the subjects I said which they have failed in are factual and time the rest of the world knew such. None of the things I have listed are wrong and unfortunately smug bodyswerving is nit an answer!

All I have said on the issue of the SNP (their ohter explanation of the initials is Scottish Nose Pickers)

You see how original the guff is that you type. That's the sort of stuff used to get said in the playground at infant school. What with that and your Jacobite nonsense, you quite obviously have not moved on from those days. I guess that happens if you still think 1690 is relevant in the modern age.

None of the things I have listed are wrong

If you believe Daily Mail headlines that is. Because they just love the SNP don't they? :lol:

Here you can have this for future reference, it will save you typing frantically away at your keyboard. Isn't that kind of me.  ;)

Can't wait for the 2nd referendum.

No doubt RJ will change his avi to the Union Flag again, and our dear @Luxor will change his to the Scottish Saltire? 

Well referring to history from Luxor is interesting. So we should have the same attitude to the Battle of Bannockburn because it is old history or the Reformation of the mid-16th century? Utterly arrogant nonsense from him. All his pals when they went to Westminster seen everyone of them wear that white flower which WAS the symbol of the Jacobites. What I have said about all the faults in the Nationalist humbug may I say to the rest of you is actuality. What I have said about SNP failings dear wider audience are true. So too was the disgusting actions in the street against rival politicians and seen on tv by the way not just the newspapers. The other items on education matters, the mess up in the amalgamated nation police force state of the roads, economics are unanswerable by the Luxor mindset. Instead he falls back on the Daily Mail?? Oh and before moving from newspapers that load of Nationalist rubbish the "National" newspaper has well declined since the staring days. Every time Sturgeon is pursued on a failing she gives the standard answer of "we are working on it." In power for 9 years and no further on.

Now mouth Sturgeon is still visiting Europe and ignoring Brexit and she will get nowhere as we have voted for out. The Luxor minsets people ignore the hard truths that I mention and may I remind the Luxor mind sets that a few years ago Salmond was courting the roam Church on being pally for votes and if I had done that in reverse that would be sectarian! For the intelligent people here they will not that he deliberately ignores the truth matters raised and gets his usual snooty looking down the nose and comes away with some daft dig about my tradition and waffling on one newspaper. In the political arena I also said the SNP vote was down and no longer has a majority. That party also tried to bring in an utter disgraceful law that meant that every baby born here would have someone from the State being in a supervisory position up till they reached 18! How crassl Soviet like is that? Those that took legal action won at the Supreme Court on the basis that it was wrong in human rights issues. So even if you married at 16 the snooper would be there! When that SNP MEP lost her Edinburgh constituency to the leader of the Scots Tories I really laughed as that loser she had been an advisor to that other arrogant mouth Salmond the ex-SNP leader.

If Surgeon is falling back on a 60% poll rating for another exit guff she will have a long wait but she had to come out with something due to the army of nasty legions who have jumped on her bandwagon. As for flags colonel I regard the saltire and the Union Flag which includes it as we are part of the united Kingdom. Have now ordered my Union Flag to contest the dumb Nationalist emotional neighbour along my avenue! So Luxor van try and be smart and snooty by his nonsense of ignoring the list of challenges thinking that makes him special.

From a strong and proud Scottish Unionist!  :knight:

Ah! The joys of a "wider" democracy… :)

Funny coming from a partial democracy like America. We have MORE parties involved in Gt Britain and for all my negative stance on separation if a State in nutjobland moved to wanting to go independent they would get NO chance. When it comes to emotional stuff Oaky you lot have a special corner all to yourselves dear chap. Emotion and tears at those carnivals meant to be political Conventions thousands of dished out cards and flags to wave and all that routine guff so you have a rather poor base to come from.  When you look at all you lot can produce for the Presidential election - a cracker and a female global militant what a laugh! So the pathetic SNP mentality has a lot in common with US Nationalism and you do produce such and try and do a dance calling it being 'patriotic'. Yeah right and as much chance as me kissing old red sock's ring.

This Saturday I will be at a big parade in Glasgow led in each section by a Union and a Saltire flags and that will continue for a long time because wee Nicola's 60% keech is not on the cards. :hat:  :yes:

In other words. RJ, you won't look in the mirror… (I've seen what you look like, and I don't blame you! I myself avoid them too, when I can. :) )

When I was young, I used to quip that men are optimists: How else could one start the day by taking a razor to one's throat and yet go on for years?! Well, my whiskers reach half-way down my chest nowadays…

What, btw, has American politics to do with Scotland's? Oh, you must mean cocking things up is better, the more people are involved…
Why don't you stand for election again, eh? :) I'm sure your "wider" democracy would benefit greatly from your input!

I know you live in  a laughable place dear Oakdale but there just have to be others who can use their grey cells. You lot are as nationalistic as the Scot Nats but cannot see it because you are so brained in flag waving, cannot know dear, oh dear, the depth of Nationalistic your stuff is,  So keep biting your lip with passion with heart on hand and keep swallowing the propaganda.

I know you live in  a laughable place dear Oakdale […]

You mean, not in Glasgow? :) Perhaps 30 years ago, you visited the U.S. for a few weeks. Since then you've watched your government television, and the Russian TV "news"… That's what frustrated socialists do!
When silly people laugh at you, you feel sorry for them. But you don't credit their opinion beyond what they can support; after all -unless you're RJ, himself- prejudice is fairly easy to spot.
If you're RJ himself, his by-line is sufficient evidence… :)

So: You're all for "wider democracy" until and unless it goes against you? And, yet, you call others hypocrites…

Good luck , with Ms. What's-her-name!

Will give you three out of three for continuity even if it is all guff. By all means satire away at me as it means as much as me getting all emotional like you folk over the pond. Such a style is very appropriate when the obvious cannot be answered intellectually but I do make allowances for you being a house hermit and trying to cover any ignorance or such well. Pity the negativity is 100% and I don't take in all the keech about your anti-tv stuff either boy but a nice attempt at covering.  :jester:

Oh, you miss my point about your telly, RJ: Only an ignorant fool takes his news from such.

satire away at me as it means as much as me getting all emotional

You've seldom (if ever) been anything but… That's why I've repeatedly asked you why you maintain such animosity towards the U.S. And, likely, why you never answer.

Never answer? For goodness sake on Opera I listed a whole lot of damnable things that contradict the guff about democracy, rights then did the same on this place so what the heck are you yakking about Oaky? Do I have to list them again? Never once did I get an answer to them so what the deuce are you rambling about? I don't hate the US although pleased I don't live in the place!  Why you did not challenge me on the list is beyond me. but here wait, ahh the answer is they could not be answered and instead I got a body swerve along with the utter nonsense of no explanation as they blew a hole in  rights, freedoms and all sorts of guffed principles.

And sturgeon is still on about all this keech regarding the European union and "keeping Scotland in it." She is making a damn fool of herself with this utter nonsense. Scotland is in Gt Britain and there is nothing she can do regarding some special treatment for part of GB. Mind you there is a subtle reason for it as she is found a neat wee dance because of the strong militancy following the independence nut jobs.

The nationalist bandwagon is way ahead of others in verbal and abuse on the Net, etc. People as I once said like the film writer, JR Rawlings getting terrible onslaughts for being Unionist. Now Neil Oliver the tv personality who is well known is the latest. He has been attacked with a vengeance on Twitter for saying he was unionist. It got so bad he has now withdrawn from the electronic. That army of belligerent head-cases that are following the SNP she cannot control so has been travelling about  on Europe as a distraction. On top of that arranging a meeting for overseas people living here in Scotland regarding their future due to Brexit. It is all a load of baloney because of those Brigadoon muffins and trying to distract the world from them. Nice try wee woman tbut we are not all damn daft mental Jacobites.

There's another way to view what the British are tending (and trending…) towards: http://dailysciencefiction.com/science-fiction/future-societies/michelle-ann-king/god-state
Of course, RJ might not have the patience to read such a verbose speculation… Specially since it's written in English! :)

But it does fit neatly into RJ's world-view… He'd like it — for everyone else.

More guff from our master of guff.

Neil Oliver claimed in a newspaper column that the indyref movement was a cancer. People let him know on Twitter that was a disgraceful thing to say. Next thing he is running to the papers saying twitter trolls sent him messages hoping that he would get cancer.
A quick search on Twitter for the use of the word cancer (https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=cancer%20%40neil_oliver_&src=typd) directed at his account shows this is not the case.


Funny how none of those newspapers with their claims of abuse, never publish any such screen grab with actual abuse in the tweets. I wonder why that would be? Whoops silly me, it doesn't suit their agenda does it.

I hope, once they are free, that Scottish nationalists give to traitors the treatment traitors deserve.

Usual from Luxor and I will again emphasise folks that when it comes to net cross swords on independence the vast army of ignorants are well in the majority. They are still at it because of the frustration losing two years ago and Luxor you just ignore the fact that your wee mouthy pal Sturgeon is harping on about the EU because she well knows that her view that of 60% of Scots felt like another Referendum that would be it for a replay. But she also knows that is not on so to keep all those mouthy ignorants who rant and have done to with people in public life she bangs on about Europe as away to avoid having to keep them happy and not put herself in another losing vote.

It is important that you people elsewhere are fully aware of the level of intimidation that went on and included on the streets as I pointed out. I am not labour but the way they treated the then Labour leader was disgusting and stopped him speaking in the street. Cursed at him sometimes right in his face and threatened violence. Oh, I well know perfectly normal people who love the thought of independence but they do a very neat dance on the army of vicious people who are nasty supporters.

Now placing my order for a union Flag to go up in my front garden to routinely compete with the Jacobite further along my quiet avenue with the Saltire!  :yes:  :knight:

the vast army of ignorants are well in the majority

That's your "wider" democracy? :)

It is important that you people elsewhere are fully aware of the level of intimidation that went on and included on the streets as I pointed out.

Quite common, in "wider" democracies, RJ; had you the ability and inclination to read a book, you'd know that!
You are proud of your "wider" democracy, except when it is what it is…

It is important that you people elsewhere are fully aware of the level of intimidation that went on

Thankfully people elsewhere know how to use the internet and with 5 minutes or so of searching they will find that you just talk bollocks.

You are just like our Yankee chums in that when the truth is too obvious we get a supercilious attitude or a not very clever body-swerve. Like the campaign for modern Jacobism you are motivated but for nothing. :sing:

What is, then, that you call "democracy," RJ? Everybody agrees with you? :) Typical…

You are just like our Yankee chums in that when the truth is too obvious

You wouldn't know what truth was if it was to boot you up the arse.

There you have an historical moment live in DnD, that's how civil wars begins. Historians will quote my words for a long time.

 :lol:

You are still dancing Luxor and you lot do have an army of ignorant and emotional thugs supporting you and you know too well that what I said about the wee wummin who needs high heels to be seen trying to do a dance on them rabbiting about Europe. Just helping prove my points. Thanks sonny.  :rolleyes:  :hat:

You are still dancing Luxor and you lot do have an army of ignorant and emotional thugs supporting you

Aye so we do petal. If ignorance is bliss, you must be in a very happy place.
Just a wee selection to remind you who the thugs are.

(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNAltoUQ.jpg&hash=fef6e710df2fa00e1561efac3d12cc76" rel="cached" data-hash="fef6e710df2fa00e1561efac3d12cc76" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://i.imgur.com/NAltoUQ.jpg)

Wow, it does seem like Britain is much better place than America and the political process is much more sane with a wide democracy :yes:

I fervently stick by what I said and the Nationalist were the people way out in front of the intimidation and just because Luxor gives us that drivel does not mean there was not another factual situation. Did the Sturgeon mouth leader get what the Labour Leader got in the street? In Glasgow's George Square where the Nats thought that was their territory Luxor also skips the hard truth that Nats went berserk that Unionists had the nerve to face them. Not only that the Nats climbed all over the Cenotaph War Memorial in George Square, Glasgow and showed complete disrespect waving flags and shouting negative stuff. And Unionists were expectde to regard that as fine?

Mouthy Luxor completely body-swerves the matter of Sturgeon knowing she will not get a 60% Independence rating hence the utter stupidity of going on about Europe. She will not get anywhere with that. On top of that there was a meeting she convened with European immigrants and she emphasised a family that was leaving Scotland over the issue. What she did tell was the same family had been involved in Referendum stuff and because the European thing was lost came up with this stupid nonsense. Sturgeon knows she has a problem with the army of Nationalist infantiles debasing people and has no basis for another vote. Luxor is amongst those emotional clowns. There is a deep deficit which the SNP government has and stats are due out shortly which will only make Luxor even more an obvious participant in those infantiles I mention. But there we are it is a democracy!

So he can slag all he likes because on the economy on debt on independence the SNP are going nowhere and when all those thousands of clowns have it eventually sinking into their limited tartan brains he and they have a big problem so hooray to that!  :lol:

But there we are it is a democracy!

Don't rely too much on that, after Scotland independence nothing will stop you receiving 50 slashes for each DnD post.
I'm counting them.

Looks to see if rj typed anything new... Nope! same old drivel, not that we would expect anything else.
Showed it to a Dormouse and I wasn't surprised at the outcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlS3w1GGE8g

You call it drivel brain shorter as you simply cannot answer of face the basic truths here. The "nationalised" police force is in a mess and the debt is even  greater today and getting worse. The average number of officers in typical shifts right across Scotland is well down. The health service and education problems the debts and the hard truth that the oil industry is no longer something to hijack to boast about income. The terrible street situations I intimated with threats, spitting, cursing and disrespect. Neither are you able to face the other blatant truth about Sturgeon making an ass of herself going on about Europe as there is nothing she can damn well do.She has even been to the Balkans!. She also knows that their position has slipped and cannot guaranteed success in another damn referendum which puts her in a very difficult corner as there are so many damn idiots like you and the other making demands she knows she cannot guarantee. instead you come out with slagging as these things cannot be faced or dealt with. So feel free to do childish tripe as the hard truths are too much to answer of deal with.

So by all means slag me off and be like all those modern Jacobites yakking about independence because you cannot fce what she has to face. That is (in plain terms for you to try and grasp) that she knows getting a 60% surge is out hence her dancing away on the Europe issue which wll go nowhere.

Scotland is in Gt Britain and will remain there. So by all means come on here and try and be pompously stupid and crass because the truth hurts and cannot be vanished.  :P  :yes:

roud to be Scots and British!  :happy:

So, you've decided you don't actually like your "wider" democracy? :)

You also said "roud to be Scots and British"… RJ, you've always and ever been roud. (Your typing merely made you say so… :) You are what you are, and you admit nothing! You're the Sgt. Schultz of Scotland!)

you simply cannot answer of face the basic truths here

Truths! LOL See previous answers thanks.

No you don't answer and making it very obvious you are slipping well into the army of Nats getting frustrating and being held off by your wee bossy woman having to concentrate on Europe in where she is going to get nowhere. The Scots economy report is shortly due and she will make excuses for that. You are her and all your mouthy Jacobites are never going to get 60%. instead of concentrating on the problems such as police, health, education, economics body-swerving is the order of the day.

So it doesn't matter that you circumvent the actual issues because my Unionist tradition will continue and the big changes that seen the Scottish Nose Pickers going down in the recent elections proves a point and also lowers the 60% vain hope. So by all means keep mouthing instead of coping with the truth in this thread. When a right hand woman of Salmond gets done in at that Edinburgh seat is another blow sign along with Ruth Davidson doubling her seats you lot are sooking in with those infantile Green Party entertainers.  Must be galling to realise in the back of the mind that the 60% is gradually getting distant.

Born and living a Unionist!

If you won't celebrate your "wider" democracy, RJ, why do you wish it on us? :)

I intimated with threats, spitting, cursing and disrespect.

See, you still don't want to admit the thuggery from the yoons, even though it's there in printed headlines for all to see. Quite understandable I suppose as you wouldn't want to associate yourself with them just in case you know them.

I am not paying any attention to you oakidale on this subject because democracy is a distant practice in your corporate hell hole.

Readers may not that smart alex Luxor is part of that Brigadoon army that Sturgeon is finding hard to control and she has to keep saying something about the possibility of another independence referendum to keep their limited minds under a desperate attempt to control. The reason is that she does know that another attempt at an exit from the UK has as much chance as me kissing the pope's ring. Note this readers.

Scotland handed over half a billion pounds to Europe institutions last year (£528 million in 2015-16) and what came back from Europe? Not much to boast about. Public spending in Scotland is £1,200 a head more than in the rest of the UK so the UK is of more value to Scotland than Europe. The collapse of the oil industry has devastated SNP grandeur economics so it needs Gt Britain more than Europe. Right across the practical spectrum in health, education, transport.roads and the poice is a mess. The nationalisation of the police service has vastly increased the debt being incurred by the Force and internally trying to find some way to operate. There is no way the 1745's mentality is going to succeed and the trend more recently has shown that in a reduction of MSPs the rise of the Scots Tories over Labour and Sturgeon doing all the European trips and talking garbage because another vote would never give what she wants so she is stretching things out for all those emotional nationalistic head-bangers  of which Luxor is a participant.  Every time he slags me off he as the grey cell users will notice he ignores the practical truths I mention here.

Scotland financially needs Britain more than it needs Europe and Scottish "freedom" in control freak Europe would be a disaster. and that individual UK subsidy I mention proves that one very practically!

Proud to be Scottish and British.  :yes:

Proud to be Scottish and British.

I doubt that British wants you that much...

Proud to be Scottish

No you're not, you put Scotland down at every opportunity. A proud Scot would never do that. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/253164678/givefinger.gif)

I'm not sure if that smiley is appropriate, @Luxor  :right:

Edit: then again, I just read what it was in response to. I suppose it's essentially more visual in kind. Tut tut you guys! /grandma

I just read what it was in response to. I suppose it's essentially more visual in kind.

Yep! I thought it better than using the one I was going to use. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/253164678/Wink2.gif)

The usual snooty guff rom Luxor and kind of natural folks as the SNP mentality is well proved in that they think that Scots not in their corner are almost like traitors. Well when you consider the number of Scots who tally up in voting Conservative & unionist, Labour and liberal democrat that puts all of them in the same corner as me. So his attempt at dismissal is of that corner i intimate.

And that the corner he comes from would be in very serious trouble in an independent Scotland is always ignored as it does not suit the truth. We do far better as part of the United Kingdom and this is 2016 not 1745.  For all his attempt at trying to avoid the practicalities I have given he falls into the same corner as the rest of the Scottish Nose Pickers by being as hard as the legions of the emotional Jacobites that the rest of us are traitors if not SNP.  Anyway Scotland will remain where it is!

I do not need to be a Nationalist  waste of time to be somehow more of a Scot.  :D  :knight:

The usual snooty guff [f]rom Luxor and kind of natural folks […]

who don't agree with Howie…
When he advocates a "wider" democracy, he only means for those who agree with him! Typical majoritarian; when they're not in the majority, they prefer dictatorship… :)
Can you emigrate to Russia, RJ? I can't imagine any other place you'd be happy!

this is 2016 not 1745.

Says the man who still lives in 1690.

From the man who lies in `1745 AND 1314......

Ooft! I think I may have hit a nerve.(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/253164678/LookOverGlasses.gif)

Dear readers the lack of smartness in Luxor is very obvious here.  Totally avoids the things and situations I mention directly  and instead comes up with that nonsense thinging that a modern Jacobite. Had I answered the way he did on me I would have been directly scorned and I made that obvious in neatly bouncing it back to him so have i touched a nerve?!

He is totally incapable on the political front and the information I have given here on the SNP is danced away from. I do not see the need to repeat the accusations of SNP_ failings and when my union Flag goes up in my front garden it will be a permanent fixture as we will remain in the UK rather than be a backward and heavily debted nothing. :knight:  :hat:

So, RJ: You were just kidding about that "wider democracy" stuff… Hm. I'm not surprised! :)

I do not see the need to repeat the accusations of SNP_ failings

Operative word there being "accusations". Not facts (Daily Mail headlines after all), just accusations. Thanks for clearing that up for us.

so have i touched a nerve?!

In your dreams petal.

It clears up for the sensible not the modern Jacobite so by all means keep the sidestepping flowing as the hard truths I have stated on actual subjects effecting Scotland get body-swerved.   :happy:

You must mean "democracy" has nothing to do with the peoples' opinions… Either they agree with you or they're wrong!
We taught George the III that that wouldn't work!

But I like your title for this thread: Scottish national ignorance is bound to increase! (Until and unless devolution goes the last step — which you'll never take, since you've always been "dependent"… :) )

ha, ha, what a farce. You lot showed King George what? The revolution was started by the early corporate minds and they have ran the place ever since. Why are so many ex-colonists in such a bad way then boy?Dear, oh dear!

I don't know, for sure… Why are so many Scots poor as church mice? :( You'd think a long-established society with a "wide" democracy could at least keep its children fed, eh?
(See here (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiL_uDJuu3OAhVC0mMKHVTmBvgQFgghMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fuk-scotland-31908888&usg=AFQjCNGYlRYBoFKKBxZVJjIciqhJ75fpYw&sig2=i6qw-E2z8HmY0xaHp5zBuw).)

How would you be expert from a place that isn't really a democracy??

Here we go, again… Your silly preoccupation with the word democracy gives you away every time, RJ. We both know you believe in the "virtue" of democracy no more than I do… :)

On the same level? :faint:

"...... that stood against him, Proud Edward's Army, and sent him homeward, tae think again!"

Independence is coming for Scotland, Mr. Howie. Accept it. Your ppl were integral in building up your empire, and ironically enough, will be responsible for destroying your union with England, Wales, and possibly N. Ireland, if they don't go independent as well.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vkYiCdn834[/video]

An "independent" Scotland would soon be a Venezuela… Howie, of course, has nothing to say — using a lot of almost-words! (I seem to recall, he liked Hugo Chavez a lot! Does he still like Fidel and Raul Castro? He still likes Stalin… :) He's a Communist, because he'd like to be a Bolshevik… But he can't. There was always more yellow in his orange, eh?  :)

The colonel dumped that guff as a not very subtle attempt at a stir up. Scotland is in Britain and staying so.

The colonel dumped that guff as a not very subtle attempt at a stir up. Scotland is in Britain and staying so.

If your current PM follows up with her promises, as soon as Article 50 is invoked, your union's foundation breaks asunder.

Yeah, yeah, nice try laddie and will suit the limited grey cells thinkers and especially those educated in nutjobland. To those who have a proper in depth appraisal of things may I add this as to what is happening here.

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Because most Scots voted in the Brexit Referendum to stay in the mess called the EU that is a very different thing from the farce of the modern Jacobite brain delinquents.  Wee Sturgeon with the big mouth for some weird assessing thinks that Brexit improves her chance of departing GB. Utter keech. Her big problem is that there IS a big segment of her party but in fairness even more so out with it who are an unwanted rabble and she is stuck with them. They are also heavily in to some form of socialist heaven and are venomous and ignorant in their legions of verbal attacks on people. Because she is stuck with them she has to come up with something to keep them happy whilst knowing at the back of her mind that a guarantee of a Scottish departure is not that easy.  Scots voted 2 years ago to stay in Gt Britain and instead of running a government she has to come up with things to keep that large rabble lot happy . Now she is planning the party to go round all the voters to sound them out  well they will be in a position to lie their heads off as it is a purely one-sided thing. This again keeps that horde of mental midgets content whilst she knows that getting another referendum so soon will not please many.

This wee country is not economically suited for daft independence and such a thing would cause complications with the rest of the UK and maybe even forced to have the Euro! Scotland is a bit out of kilter with the rest of Gt Britain on economics gets more per head than the rest of the UK as well as an SNP regime that is incompetent on the economy, education, health and the utter mess and now heavy debt of the merger of all police into the one mess-up. Nine years in power and hopeless so i am not surprised the declined votes at the recent Scots Parliament Elections, lost seats including to the Conservative & Unionist Party and no longer have a majority. That they depend on those damn Greens who are a bunch of posh lefties  makes it even more farcical.  Time after time one would get the same midden from those despicable rejects who are of that group I mention. Those that did not vote SNP were "not Scots", often described as "traitors" and such. Considering the vast numbers who voted Tory, Labour, Liberal Democrat runs into hundreds of thousands shows what Sturgeon has created and she cannot control  things. Oh and let us not forget the mess they got being told their plans to have every baby born in Scotland supervised by someone appointed by the State until 18 been intimated as illegal.

They are also heavily in to some form of socialist heaven and are venomous and ignorant in their legions of verbal attacks on people.

Still persevering with that nonsense rj. Even though it has been pointed out to you consistently that you are talking rubbish. No matter how many times you repeat it I will post the opposite. Now if you want to show us actual examples of this go ahead and I will counter them with the abuse that comes from the Yoons. I see it daily, even now on my twitter timeline.

Oh and let us not forget the mess they got being told their plans to have every baby born in Scotland supervised by someone appointed by the State until 18 been intimated as illegal.

For the interest of anyone else please read.
Supreme Court Judgement Named Person Legislation can proceed (http://www.barnardos.org.uk/what_we_do/barnardos_today/scotland/scotland_news.htm?ref=117547&)

I saw a documentary about Angus Aberdeen bull race. Nice meat the Scottish produces.
What a shame they don't even know how to cook it.

What a shame they don't even know how to cook it.

We know how to cook it just fine, You are correct with your assumption that we do produce the best beef though.  :up:

You are correct with your assumption that we do produce the best beef though.   :up:

Sorry but you don't. Search in Vimeo for "Steak (R)evolution".
The quest for the best meat in the world. It's in French, a wonderful documentary. :)

You really are a political buffoon Luxor. You do not answer any of the list of things I have said on the subjects of importance and instead fall back on being a smart-alex. Education - oil - roads - police mess - independence at any price and big debt and how much the UK spends more per head on families here . Or the disgraceful street antics we all know about which were disgusting. Instead you fall back on trying to come out with the stuff that No people were more detrimental on the net, etc than the you lot. The obvious problem that Sturgeon has with the multitude of vicious camp followers (many I did say were not in the party) and she has to come out with all sorts of distractions because trying to force another referendum is not that easy and she damn knows that. Many of those mindsets don't care a damn about financial disaster it just has to be "independence." Well it ain't going to happen snooty so you can stay on the ignoring the things raised because they are true and fall back on any modern Jacobite keech you like. People like you should get stuffed because you are not any saviours of Scotland but a bunch of brained clowns. If not one of you we are not Scots that is the general freakishness and fine you know it mouth. :hat:

But, Howie, don't you say that anyone who doesn't agree with you is "no true Scotsman"!? :) (There's an informal fallacy named that… Who knows? Perhaps you'll get a fallacy named after you, personally!)

You really are a political buffoon Luxor.

Aww! you say the nicest things sweetie. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/253164678/Kissfriend.gif)

Or the disgraceful street antics we all know about which were disgusting. Instead you fall back on trying to come out with the stuff that No people were more detrimental on the net, etc than the you lot.

You know you remind me of the nutter who stands on the street corning shouting at people all day, repeating the same stuff over and over every day in the vain hope that someone will eventually take a blind bit of notice of you. I know you are talking rubbish, you know you are talking rubbish and now everyone else who reads this does too.

Sorry but you don't. Search in Vimeo for "Steak (R)evolution".
The quest for the best meat in the world. It's in French, a wonderful documentary.  :)

No need to sir. I worked in the meat trade all my life, I know all I need to know about beef. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/253164678/Wink.gif)

Worked in the meat trade. Ah-ha now i can understand your mince Luxor!

Did you ever work outside of the government, RJ[/i}? Did you even have a paper route? :)

Worked in the meat trade. Ah-ha now i can understand your mince Luxor!

Yep! That also means I know a load of tripe when I see it.

Yep, I will be fair and totally accept your tripe experience as you are following well in wee Sturgeon. Can I say to the more general reader that the woman keeps trying to come up with all sorts of stuff about associating with even people she normally rubbishes did the Euro visits as a distraction because she knows that the keech about Indy is plainly not something  she can guarantees as recent directions have shown. Roll on my flag and pole delivery!  :knight:  :hat:

There is no possibility of being a gourmet amongst Scottish....

Nonsense, sir! They have McDonald's, don't they? :)

There is no possibility of being a gourmet amongst Scottish....

Have you ever visited Scotland? If you have you must have gone to the wrong establishments.

They have McDonald's, don't they?

Yuck! (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/253164678/yuck2.gif)

Thought we were talking about Howie, who drinks diet soda — although he probably weighs less than 98 lbs. soaking wet! (They have a term for that, when the subject is female… :) )
I've not been to Scotland so I can't really comment on the cuisine. Belfrager likely hasn't been there either; but he's adopted RJ's style of commenting…

Thought we were talking about Howie, who drinks diet soda

Diet Irn-Bru I believe. Probably because it's coloured orange.

Belfrager likely hasn't been there either; but he's adopted RJ's style of commenting...

Ooh! That's harsh.  ;)

Have you ever visited Scotland?

Course not, men in skirts are not amongst my top priorities.
But I admit you have more than that, when you are again independent I'll think about it, you have the whisky I drink. :)

Belfrager likely hasn't been there either; but he's adopted RJ's style of commenting...

Envious I didn't adopted yours?

Quote from: OakdaleFTL on 2016-09-08, 16:18:53

Belfrager likely hasn't been there either; but he's adopted RJ's style of commenting...

Envious I didn't adopted yours?

I thought the Portuguese didn't get drunk?  :P

Interestingly I have just noted that a couple of leading behind the scenes lights in the SNP farce  don't think the Scottish nose Pickers are doing right and that another independence farce is negative. And yes on a more interesting note I am pleased that my (diet) Irn Bru is orange. :sing:  :cheers: