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Title: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-04-16, 17:46:05
...degenerating into name calling and nation belittling. Why do you suppose that is?
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: jax on 2015-04-16, 18:58:35
Only those threads that don't start out bad go bad.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-04-16, 19:49:13
Looks to me that they all go bad.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: tt92 on 2015-04-16, 19:51:37
The ones that start out bad go badder.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Belfrager on 2015-04-16, 21:53:32
...degenerating into name calling and nation belittling. Why do you suppose that is? (https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?action=reporttm;topic=1063.0;msg=38561)

Is that a mea culpa? a confession of guilty?
Pray Our Father one hundred times and you'll be pardoned. Maybe... we'll see then if you deserve pardon.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: mjmsprt40 on 2015-04-16, 22:18:15
Can't be helped for the moment. We have a guy who goes to the "First Church of Hate Everybody" and believes in spreading his gospel message. Kinda sad, really.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-04-17, 12:35:20
We have a guy who goes to the "First Church of Hate Everybody" and believes in spreading his gospel message.

And that would be?
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: ensbb3 on 2015-04-17, 13:07:57
And that would be?

Love thine self. Screw the rest.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-04-17, 13:34:42
You aren't Mjm.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Barulheira on 2015-04-17, 13:43:26
Me neither.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Sparta on 2015-04-17, 18:28:27
Any good thread can goes bad , when there are bad people Speak up .
Any bad thread can goes Good , when there are Good People Speak up .

and hence ,   need   Deep  knowledge about psyche when there are  --->  :troll: arround 
so any thread aint  turn to Trollfest , nor cyberbullying .
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Belfrager on 2015-04-17, 21:57:45
Any good thread can goes bad , when there are bad people Speak up .

I'm a bad people Speak up.
Fortunately, people as yourself, Good People Speak up, can oppose...
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-04-18, 10:58:42
I'm a bad people

There are more than one of you!?!
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: jseaton2311 on 2015-04-18, 14:19:36
I'm bad.  Whatcha wanna do 'bout it?   :knight:  :cheers:
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Barulheira on 2015-04-20, 11:27:58
He was.
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fthumb%2F5%2F51%2FMichael_Jackson_-_Bad.png%2F220px-Michael_Jackson_-_Bad.png&hash=fa4302c1812ae5a50e076e231eaa3c10" rel="cached" data-hash="fa4302c1812ae5a50e076e231eaa3c10" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/51/Michael_Jackson_-_Bad.png/220px-Michael_Jackson_-_Bad.png)
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-04-20, 16:37:24
I'm bad.  Whatcha wanna do 'bout it?

(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jasonshen.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2007%2F03%2Fkick-butt.gif&hash=352b3b5b6921a8886f40f04da80560bb" rel="cached" data-hash="352b3b5b6921a8886f40f04da80560bb" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://www.jasonshen.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/kick-butt.gif)
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: SmileyFaze on 2015-04-21, 00:14:40
Threads going "BAD" is a matter of perception rather than them actually turning into a hell hole.

When I came to this forum the one thing that attracted me was it's openness & fair transparent moderation.

For the most part we all knew each other, & we all knew pretty much what to expect when push comes to shove.

Then, we have a resident, myopic, hate almost everything regarding the 'New World' (https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFr9vZ9T.png&hash=ba09439a6bdcac137fdfda82b14a30d8" rel="cached" data-hash="ba09439a6bdcac137fdfda82b14a30d8" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://i.imgur.com/Fr9vZ9T.png) troll, who may just only be
but one bowel movement away from sainthood    --   poor anguished soul. 

On the other hand, we have quite a few "genuine" people, people who actually wish to express themselves & honestly discuss an issue.



The OP of this thread is one of the best examples of what it takes to be "Genuine".  (https://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/cheerskj4.gif)

Not always absolutely correct on any particular issue is he (though he sometimes 'thinks' he is), but his traits are commendably honest & he is most always open to discuss the pros & cons of just about any issue.  



Now, IMHO I don't think threads go 'bad'.

Some die quickly, while others tend to go slowly kicking & screaming.

Some seem to go on forever because they continually renew & evolve.

The ones that sour are typically the ones where a minority of participants, rather than meet the issue head on, some lesser people rather attack the messenger rather than discuss the merits, or lack thereof, of the message.

Frustration combined with a weak mind can also set a quiet man into a raging lunatic, but usually that's short lived.

It's not the threads fault, but the participant.

Politics & Religion can also strongly polarize viewpoints to the point of creating a mob-ish atmosphere.

All you need in that instance is a troll to spice up the vitriol a bit, & you then have the poster child of what is perceived as a 'bad' thread.

The treads themselves don't go 'bad', the participants get a little testy at times, but that doesn't make the thread 'bad', just at the worst unsavory to the casual stranger, or the unsuspecting drifter.

Didn't someone say  "Variety is the spice of life."?

Well, that's my honest opinion for what it's worth.  (https://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/hatsoff.gif)
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Colonel Rebel on 2015-05-03, 23:32:25
I blame the big banks and their lack of punishment thereafter.

Also, Glasgow.  :troll:
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-05-04, 01:36:03
Nice try.  :D
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-05-17, 12:53:19
Excuse him, Rj. He's a young 'un.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-05-17, 14:19:58
Ach, aye, i do acknowledge that side jimbro and as is probably not appreciated out in the world do feel for him......
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2015-05-18, 07:14:43
Well, he's had a taste of British "higher" education — so, he may be, still, a little miffed! (Luckily, RJ, you've had no such provocation… :) )
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-05-18, 11:57:12
Yes, higher education...
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.rapgenius.com%2Fd8ec98ccd7f9dfb3b2ab41b15d737296.363x200x1.jpg&hash=c06a96f2c005c046836005251ac40e4e" rel="cached" data-hash="c06a96f2c005c046836005251ac40e4e" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://images.rapgenius.com/d8ec98ccd7f9dfb3b2ab41b15d737296.363x200x1.jpg)
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-05-20, 03:20:08
I do have to say Oakdale that the chance of an ex-colonist seriously making me irked is beyond it. Do keep trying if you cannot get out the chair for some fresh air.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2015-05-20, 05:16:00
I do have to say Oakdale that the chance of an ex-colonist seriously making me irked is beyond it.
Yes, my dear Icarus of the North, I dare say you're right: You're unflappable! Your telly tells you all you need to know… And that's enough for you; there seems little room left in your skull for anything new.
But I do sometimes wish you'd let a little more of the English language in, way back when. Oh, well. Spilt milk and silk purses and all that, eh? :)
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-05-20, 19:16:10
In you inability to be as equal to someone who has been in the public eye do feel free to inform us as to where you learn anything. Books can be bias you know but I will be fair and allow for your education failings as even your government has had concerns over recent years.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2015-05-20, 23:43:13
In you inability to be as equal to someone who has been in the public eye […]
When I was in the public eye I was playing guitar and singing (…never you mind, how well! :) ). It was honest employment, and great fun.
Getting up on your hind legs to blather was what you did… What came of it? Perhaps some tittering tee-hees — so, I'll give you credit for entertaining. But was there anything else accomplished? Anything purposeful?

Besides stroking your ego, I mean…
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-05-21, 09:58:38

In you inability to be as equal to someone who has been in the public eye do feel free to inform us as to where you learn anything. Books can be bias you know but I will be fair and allow for your education failings as even your government has had concerns over recent years.

Certainly.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2015-05-21, 20:37:53
:)
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-05-21, 20:59:29

:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: tt92 on 2015-05-21, 22:09:32
I am working on a thread that will be so bad that only a couple of our regulars will be able to make it worse.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Belfrager on 2015-05-21, 22:24:05
I can help on that :)
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Barulheira on 2015-05-22, 11:58:14
Just for the best on making worse. (Or vice-versa.)
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: mjmsprt40 on 2015-05-24, 23:16:08
Elsewhere on the web, under another name, I've been sore tempted recently to make a text-wall approximately the size of "War and Peace" with no-not-any punctuation. Do you think, if I did this, that this could make a really bad thread worse?
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: tt92 on 2015-05-24, 23:28:23

I can help on that :)

Counting on it.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Barulheira on 2015-05-25, 12:32:33

Do you think, if I did this, that this could make a really bad thread worse?

Worse is always possible.
(You can always be inside a hole... and digging.)
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2015-05-25, 22:15:41
make a text-wall approximately the size of "War and Peace" with no-not-any punctuation.
It's been done to death, mjm! (Don't you remember Seeker? :) )
Or perhaps I'm remembering the Intelligent Design proponent? (Are they one and the same?)

Hey, hasn't anyone noticed that bad threads sometimes go good? :)
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Belfrager on 2015-07-02, 23:07:50
Hey, hasn't anyone noticed that bad threads sometimes go good?  :)

Well, I noticed that you said something... does that makes this a good thread?
I don't think so but it's certainly a good beginning. After my analysis, you need three people posting for making it a good thread.

Three people are enough to represent mankind evolution. One says A, the second says non-A and the third one tries to combine A with non-A. All mankind philosophy never made more than that.

DnD is still at a lower stage, it lives, at the best, from A an Non-A posting. Kind of early African humanoids.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-07-03, 10:15:05
I am working on a thread that will be so bad that only a couple of our regulars will be able to make it worse.

Bring it on!
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: ensbb3 on 2015-07-03, 16:51:28

I am working on a thread that will be so bad that only a couple of our regulars will be able to make it worse.

Bring it on!


I'm here... Let's do this.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-07-03, 18:57:47
Two Tennesseans are up to taking on one Waltzing Matilda Aussie.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOfyHjRONLo[/video]
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: tt92 on 2015-07-03, 23:50:11
 :o
:no:
:awww:
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: ensbb3 on 2015-07-04, 05:04:26
Lolz, were those words they were singing? :-\
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-07-07, 13:31:36
You don't need words to sing scat.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tFn6YJjn1U[/video]
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: ensbb3 on 2015-07-07, 21:25:58
I don't have the words to express my feelings for that. :P lol
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2015-07-08, 08:13:36
Ella Fitzgerald said…she'd simply forgotten the words!
But I myself remember a musician I'd worked with when I was a teenager much later, when we re-united, asking why I didn't tell him I could do that: Sing what I played on the guitar, while I played it!
I told him the truth: How did you think I knew what I was playing? :) That's how I practiced!

How could he not have known this? (Too much weed, I think…) Practice is a bizarre concept, for some. Knowing what you're doing is…
Well, you know.

The idea that people learn to do things is almost verboten, now: Either they're born with a gift or they're "precluded" by racial/ethnic/political/sophomoric memes — which is to say: They are wussies!
I'd suggest a poll (but I wouldn't post it…): How many wussies would self-identify? :)
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-07-21, 03:16:54
Excellent stuff there jimbro - well done and very enjoyable!
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Belfrager on 2015-07-21, 05:51:45
The idea that people learn to do things is almost verboten, now: Either they're born with a gift or they're "precluded" by racial/ethnic/political/sophomoric memes — which is to say: They are wussies!

I don't know what wussies means but people don't learn because learning things it's dangerous. We aren't too far of seeing books being forbidden, only television induced state of coma being allowed.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-07-22, 01:46:38
There was atime years ago when television was a more reasonable thing but these days it is more junk.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2015-07-22, 07:49:20
There was a time years ago when television was a more reasonable thing […]
What you mean to say was that most people were more naive, then! (Now, they're stupider… :) ) Television is a great medium, but it's rare that it's well done.

I still prefer books, and (live!) conversation.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-07-22, 10:11:54
and (live!) conversation.

Tell that to your ex-wife. (https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileyfaze.tk%2Fslides%2Fbig%2520laugh%2520007.gif&hash=e20538fb0b0ea1760548b0e533e5d36a" rel="cached" data-hash="e20538fb0b0ea1760548b0e533e5d36a" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://smileyfaze.tk/slides/big%20laugh%20007.gif)
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-07-23, 01:18:26
Only troube about being a fanatical book reader and not going out is that when meeting people it can be a failure.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2015-07-23, 06:47:53
Tell that to your ex-wife.
I would — but she has seldom wanted to talk: She just wanted to dis those in her circle that had dissed her. Not much there, for me; that's "dead" conversation. (People were always going "dead" to her, for disagreements and conflicts. I'd eventually realized that this wasn't a linguistic peccadillo, a "turn of phrase": She meant it! Such vindictiveness is -still- incomprehensible to me… Oh, well.*)
————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
* I assume -based upon good evidence- that I am "dead" to her… :)
That's probably for the best.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-07-23, 13:20:17
Been there, done that.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-07-24, 00:20:59
I can feel confident never having had that to contend with.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Belfrager on 2015-07-25, 15:06:44
Every Thread Goes Bad....

We should adopt a new forum's concept, the forum with just one thread - The thread of everything.

We're people clearly attracted by cacophony, we aren't normal posters we are super cacoposters.
DnD, always at the front edge of innovation.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-07-25, 17:51:49
We should adopt a new forum's concept, the forum with just one thread - The thread of everything.

:jester: Open it, Belfrager, open it! :ninja:
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Belfrager on 2015-07-25, 22:18:57
:jester:  Open it, Belfrager, open it!  :ninja:

You're too much small minded for such advanced innovation.
In alternative, I can open the Little thread for the Little minds. Do you like it? I'm sure you do. :)
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: ensbb3 on 2015-07-28, 20:54:57
I'm bored. We may need to go just a little bigger than that.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Belfrager on 2015-07-28, 22:00:31
I'm bored. We may need to go just a little bigger than that.

Way to go ensbb3, way to go :) Tell us your ideas.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: ensbb3 on 2015-07-29, 02:44:31
Way to go ensbb3, way to go  :)

Settle down. Settle down. I have other tricks...
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-07-29, 13:39:37
I can open the Little thread for the Little minds.

You're the perfect Portuguese lady to do that.
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.static.flickr.com%2F8439%2F7995654048_2dce0ca220_m.jpg&hash=57727a7dd4f78e4c5de3b7fd20193462" rel="cached" data-hash="57727a7dd4f78e4c5de3b7fd20193462" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8439/7995654048_2dce0ca220_m.jpg)
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Belfrager on 2015-08-21, 23:21:16
You should be forbidden of keep on showing your portfolio. Exhibitionist.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-08-23, 02:59:30
I actually think that could be jimbro in drag?
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-08-23, 15:49:57
You should be forbidden of keep on showing your portfolio. Exhibitionist.

I'm not Portuguese, but speaking of folks in drag.
(https://scontent-atl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11056624_118235221858326_6863012467067809736_n.jpg?oh=74227450f2ea51b69bb6ff18e4d39551&oe=567CBFC0)
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-08-23, 18:39:22
Well interesting coming from someone who has never been seen here looking as if has anything decent to wear. I will be considerate and understand the envy which was not intended. I still have my collecting can for money to help when the ex-colonies go bankrupt but will be helpful and give a clothing donation to you. As one who is still active outside the house, speaks at rallies and meetings and so on I fully understand your lackComing from someone who has a President running up and down plane stairs with sleeves rolled up I suppose it is a norm hence my consideration.

On more basic terms...nice try frustrated man.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-08-24, 10:18:19
When the ex-colonies go bankrupt, the ex-colonials will go with it, as will Europe, Japan and China.

=================="Quit you like Howie: be wrong"=====================
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-08-25, 21:01:06
Nice try but your lot will be top of the worse off league considering the record of the poor and homeless presently in existence.  :P
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: OakdaleFTL on 2015-08-26, 04:10:46
[…] but your lot will be top of the worse off league considering the record of the poor and homeless presently in existence.
Not yours? Those standing on the shoulders of pygmies? :)
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-08-30, 01:26:18
Well you should know about pygmies as your corporate controllers treat the ordinary ex-colonists as mental pygmies so more your experienced corner than mine. Wish you would help yourself by getting out more and mixing with people Rockwell, sorry, Oakdale.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: tt92 on 2015-08-30, 04:53:32
Has this thread gone bad yet?
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: jax on 2015-08-30, 11:15:46
Has it ever strayed from baddery?
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-08-31, 06:18:47
Yes. It's just there is a built-in blindness from some!
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Jimbro3738 on 2015-08-31, 15:14:00
Has this thread gone bad yet?

When it was opened. The opener has been bad for decades.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: rjhowie on 2015-09-01, 05:35:57
Well no-one is of course perfect but you can manage a goodly job of being bad as a self contradiction.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Belfrager on 2015-10-03, 22:06:05

Has this thread gone bad yet?

When it was opened. The opener has been bad for decades.

DnD mission is to turn bad every and each thread that appears.
We are good at that. :)

We should change DnD Sanctuary for DnD Hell. :devil:
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: ersi on 2017-01-27, 15:28:44
Does anyone know who started those orgies at the White House?

(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.mentalfloss.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fstyles%2Finsert_main_wide_image%2Fpublic%2Freagan-mr-t-santa_0.jpg&hash=4aea1d28a08e59a8a5e8a222f4150da4" rel="cached" data-hash="4aea1d28a08e59a8a5e8a222f4150da4" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/reagan-mr-t-santa_0.jpg)
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: krake on 2017-01-27, 16:29:54
Hmm, the lady seems to be Nancy Reagan but I don't know who Santa is. An uncle of Obama?
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: ersi on 2017-01-27, 16:37:15
Mr. T. He was big in the 80's with A-Team (tv series) and Rocky III.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Frenzie on 2017-01-27, 17:26:30
I've seen Rocky I & II. Now I need to see III. Btw, he also had some kind of rap song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_rBidCkJxo
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: Belfrager on 2017-01-28, 00:10:33
those orgies at the White House?
American orgies. Europeans knows nothing about that.
Title: Re: Every Thread Goes Bad....
Post by: ersi on 2023-02-26, 15:48:49
Microsoft destroyed Nokia. The last thing left to destroy is Nokia's logo (https://yle.fi/a/74-20008814/64-3-140142).

(https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/c_crop,x_134,y_0,w_1533,h_863/w_1200,h_674,ar_1.78,dpr_1,c_fill/q_auto:eco,f_auto,fl_lossy/v1677417222/39-107812463fb5ae120f74)