The U.S. Supreme Court recently refused to reconsider a 9th Circuit decision that –among other things– enshrined the "heckler's veto" in our law-fare…
The point of contention was whether high school students should be allowed something akin to "free speech". Various courts have decided not.
Their reasoning is curious, to say the least!
In 1969 the Supreme Court said the exact opposite. (Black arm bands worn by students, in opposition to the Vietnam war…)
What has changed?
I'd say, that the acceptance of the heckler's veto (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/03/30/supreme-court-refuses-to-review-schools-ban-on-wearing-of-american-flag-on-cinco-de-mayo/) is actually desired, by some.
(That's not unusual: But it is -as we like to think of ourselves- un-American!)
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I'd like to remind those who don't read history that the Battle of Puebla was fought against the French (in 1862, when the U.S. was preoccupied…) :)
Must we now bow to gross ignorance, as well as "hurt feelings"?
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If schools cannot teach, why should we fund them? :)
I'm glad you are freeeee to use how many eeeeeeees you'd like without being annoyed by anyone.
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!
And shouting fire in a crowded Kid Rock concert?
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Most free speech is worth every penny.
Perhaps, but this penny costs $12.95, and that ain't free!
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Heavens what an example of the cost of free speech!
BTW ....... while contemplating free speeeeeeech, what has become of our resident (https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrBO2dVN.gif&hash=4e0c994eab7168db17b5e3c7ef382145" rel="cached" data-hash="4e0c994eab7168db17b5e3c7ef382145" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://i.imgur.com/rBO2dVN.gif) procyonid?
He have a meltdown, & shit himself? I woulda loved to read that, but I guess I somehow missed it.
Anyone gotta link?
Miss the lil bugger!
(https://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/smileyvaultmisc166.gif) Or is that booger? (https://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/chuckle002.gif)
BTW ....... while contemplating free speeeeeeech, what has become of our resident (https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrBO2dVN.gif&hash=4e0c994eab7168db17b5e3c7ef382145" rel="cached" data-hash="4e0c994eab7168db17b5e3c7ef382145" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://i.imgur.com/rBO2dVN.gif) procyonid?
He have a meltdown, & shit himself? I woulda loved to read that, but I guess I somehow missed it.
Anyone gotta link?
Miss the lil bugger!
(https://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/smileyvaultmisc166.gif) Or is that booger? (https://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/chuckle002.gif)
I also am curious as to what happened to Sang? :bandit:
I also am curious as to what happened to Sang?
He deleted his account as far as I can tell.
I also am curious as to what happened to Sang?
He deleted his account as far as I can tell.
Thanks for the update! :cheers:
Sang: I hope you're well, and I'll miss your posts.
Heavens is that a sober comment?! :no:
Teetotalers have no excuse for their inanities… :)
But I would miss Sang -drunk or sober- because, well, he posted — and sometimes to the point. (Some people never do that…)
I'd like to remind those who don't read history that the Battle of Puebla was fought against the French (in 1862, when the U.S. was preoccupied…) :)
Must we now bow to gross ignorance, as well as "hurt feelings"?
And those who are unaware of the exploits of Gilles de Rais and Ilse Koch. Ignorance abounds in these dark regions. Thanks, OakdaleFTL, for shining light into the dark recesses of DnD.
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I'd also like to remind those who only pop in and out of conversations without bothering to acquaint themselves with the topic(s) that their snark is unbecoming… :) (But some are past caring. Oh, well.)
Nice picture, 'tho.
Well considering your love affair with John Barleycorn Oakdale, I fail to see how you can give a balanced view on sense!
I fail to see how you can give a balanced view on sense!
Of course you do! For you, only the appearance matters… And the mirrors of your mind are your only reference.
He deleted his account as far as I can tell. (https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?action=reporttm;topic=1019.8;msg=39514)
Did he considered DnD as a gangrenous purulence putting his life in risk?
Did he considered DnD as a gangrenous purulence putting his life in risk?
Not being a mind reader, I have no way of knowing that. :P
To whom are you speaking, tt92? :)
Since I create (and edit — hey!? Can you do that? :) I don't think so…) the titles of threads I start I have to assume others do as well.
In this case (as is likely in many others…) my particularly American (U.S.) viewpoint and focus may confuse others… (Sorry 'bout that.) But the topic -Free Speech- happens to be prominently mentioned to our 1st Amendment to our Constitution. It's important — to most of us.
In Great Britain, her dependencies, Europe and -almost- everywhere else in the world, our idea of Free Speech is rejected, rebutted, restricted, remonstrated or ridiculed: These others don't like it.
I respect their right to feel as they do. (As I bemoan their proclivity to adhere to their feelings…)
What I don't and won't accept is a "heckler's veto" eviscerating that 1st Amendment right to Free Speech. Not in the U.S. …
I began this thread with a story that continues to this day.
Should we have "hate speech" laws? Anti-defamation laws? Blasphemy laws? Laws banning (or sanctioning) "religious" insult?
You may not want to go as far as we did, originally. But dare you go as far as so many others will, eventually?
Free men will not submit to tyranny. (The corollary is that those who submit to tyranny are not free… Trust me on this: I know logic! :) )
Giving the power to circumscribe speech to your government means the end of whatever freedom you ever aspired to…
It's only a matter of time.
But of course freedom may not be something you need, or even want…
Giving the power to circumscribe speech to your government means the end of whatever freedom you ever aspired to…
It's only a matter of time.
It's funny you saying that because yesterday I read an article that quoted your ex president Gerald Ford as saying: a state big enough to give you everything you want i's also big enough to take everything from you.
Wise words that applies to freedom of expression. Being freedom of expression a natural right you don't have it because it says in some paper, call it constitution or whatever. If you make it depend from a paper, it can be taken from you with simply another paper.
That's why you need a King not a piece of paper.
Wise words that applies to freedom of expression. […]
That's why you need a King not a piece of paper.
What? And have regicide be the only recourse? :)
Seriously, re-read our Declaration of Independence,
Belfrager. It explains a lot that you don't understand…
Or -if you haven't the patience to reference that document- I'll give you the gist:
Government is a compact with the people governed. The "piece of paper" you mistakenly think is the guarantee of our rights merely describes the duties of said government, failure to perform which is just cause to legitimately "dissolve" such… The paper and the government's adherence to it are what secures the existence and persistence of the
government.
Statists, of course, disagree… :)
Government is a compact with the people governed. The "piece of paper" you mistakenly think is the guarantee of our rights merely describes the duties of said government, failure to perform which is just cause to legitimately "dissolve" such… The paper and the government's adherence to it are what secures the existence and persistence of the government.
Nothing you added alters the nature of that piece of paper, very much the contrary, still a mere piece of paper that any other paper will have a similar value.
Maybe you want to defend such paper as a Pact, probably a Social Pact it's what you want to say. If so, I regret to inform you that one of the parts - the government, has long ago ceased to honor the Pact. Your paper it's useless, the government wasn't and never will be dissolved.
Or do you need more pretexts than the NSA spying the entire American population? I think not.
Your reasoning seems to me equal to Smleyfaze's "right" to have an armed militia and blá blá blá, both suffering from some mysterious form of hope on the "holy paper". As a result, you don't have your sovereignty and he doesn't have his militia.
In this case (as is likely in many others…) my particularly American (U.S.) viewpoint and focus may confuse others… (Sorry 'bout that.) But the topic -Free Speech- happens to be prominently mentioned to our 1st Amendment to our Constitution. It's important — to most of us.
In Great Britain, her dependencies, Europe and -almost- everywhere else in the world, our idea of Free Speech is rejected, rebutted, restricted, remonstrated or ridiculed: These others don't like it.
I respect their right to feel as they do. (As I bemoan their proclivity to adhere to their feelings…)
I would give more credence to that statement if you had taken the time to actually study other countries' governance, in this case their ideas, origin, application of and formula for free speech. Free speech is not usually considered an issue of contention, particularly not between the US and "Great Britain, her dependencies, Europe".
In many cases European and other countries has copied US implementations and ideas, as they worked better than what they had been stuck with, but the US largely inherited their free speech from Britain (with some inflow from other European countries). Free speech was no novelty at the time of the independence of the US, nor in the centuries thereafter. This is not an aspect of governance where the US has been ahead of the curve, nor behind it. How it actually has been applied on the other hand has varied between any two countries. These differences are illuminating and interesting, platitudes are not.
More typical than free speech (in any country) being "rejected, rebutted, restricted, remonstrated or ridiculed", is unconsidered celebration of free speech. Free speech is considered, as a given, terribly, terribly, terribly important, without any thought for why it is terribly, terribly, terribly important, or what would happen in its absence. Free speech is our only safeguard against a Nazi nightmare. Free speech is important, but is no bulwark against tyranny.
Incidentally, as a recently enumerated member of the Swedish set, I now have recourse both to a "paper" (a constitution, actually a succession of constitutions) and a "king" (a monarchy, actually a succession of monarchs). Sweden had constitutionally enshrined freedom of the press in 1766, before the US Constitution, indeed before the United States. Freedom was in vogue in the 18th century, a more novel idea was government transparency, also enshrined in the same constitution.
Good points there Belfrager. We have a monarch and no bits of paper like the Yanks fight over and misuse for the arrogant corporate string-pullers. :queen:
If schools cannot teach, why should we fund them? :)
Because you fund everything that you are forced to fund. Not your option what you fund or not.
If schools are not funded, then who or what will do the teaching? Streets? Church? Which one do you prefer?
The question is not to fund schools or not, the question is to fund schools that destroy your children or not. I said you have no option, you are forced to fund schools that destroys your children.
Unless you rebel, but you don't.
By the way, best schools are, always have been and will ever be from the Catholic Church, namely owned by Jesuits. These are private schools, no one is forced to fund it and most are not even allowed to put their children there. Superior education is not for everybody.
By the way, best schools are, always have been and will ever be from the Catholic Church, namely owned by Jesuits.
The proof of which is...?
What does "best" mean?
Although some Catholic clergy, religious orders and Popes owned slaves, and the naval galleys of the Papal States were to use captured Muslim galley slaves, Roman Catholic teaching began to turn more strongly against "unjust" forms of slavery in general, beginning in 1435, prohibiting the enslavement of the recently baptised, culminating in pronouncements by Pope Paul III in 1537.
However when the Age of Discovery greatly increased the number of slaves owned by Christians, the response of the church, under strong political pressures, was confused and ineffective in preventing the establishment of slave societies in the colonies of Catholic countries. Papal bulls such as Dum Diversas, Romanus Pontifex and their derivatives, sanctioned slavery and were used to justify enslavement of natives and the appropriation of their lands during this era.
I'm still waiting for an answer, Mr. Belfrager. Name five of the best Jesuit universities in a listing of the world's best.
You might take a look at this listing of top universities in the world.
https://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2014-15/world-ranking (https://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2014-15/world-ranking).
Out of the first 200 listed I couldn't find even one Jesuit school. I didn't check the second 200.
Harvard is a Jesuit school. Because Jews study there, Jesus was a Jew, and Jesuits are named after Jesus. Everybody knows this.
Logic rules!
Harvard is a Jesuit school. Because Jews study there, Jesus was a Jew, and Jesuits are named after Jesus. Everybody knows this.
I have to agree with Barulheira, even though I didn't know it. On the other hand...
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Did any of know that Barulheira means noise? Now that you do know it, are you surprised?
I'm still waiting for an answer, Mr. Belfrager.
Sorry Mr Jimbro, I forgot entirely about you. My fault.
You might take a look at this listing of top universities in the world.
No I don't. Hardly Saxons can pretend to be someone in the world of education.
Any ignorant not aware of the role Jesuits had, have and will keep on having in the education of elites all over the world obviously doesn't deserves my attention.
Jesus was a Jew
You think so? Or did he fought the Jews that killed him? Learn a little bit more.
No I don't. Hardly Saxons can pretend to be someone in the world of education.
Any ignorant not aware of the role Jesuits had, have and will keep on having in the education of elites all over the world obviously doesn't deserves my attention.
Rule # 1: If you can't answer the question, say something in Portuguese English and have a dish of Arroz de pato.
Rule # 2: Return to Rule # 1.
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This kind of language doesn't belong here, Belfrager.
It's not needed that's for sure. But as it's the "free speech" thread, I'll try to ignore it. Not that I am condoning it though Belfrager.
Quoting it, doesn't really help matters.
When my father was learning German he invented a new swear word.
It was "railway ticket to a sleighride" in German, said slowly with venom.
Look it up.
To be fair though, that did escalate rather quickly. [referring to Belfrager's cussing…]
I actually remember the so-called Free Speech Movement (…on American -specifically, Californian, campuses); and I remember Sam Hayakawa's response. :)
Those "brave free speech advocates" mostly wanted to be able to curse in public. And to be able to shout down anyone they disagreed with. Such remains the focus of "liberal" free speech concerns…
I don't think
Jimbro will be put-off by a few expletives… Specially, a repeated one, as if
Belfrager had read White and Strunk's
Elements of Style… :) (He taught AP English Literature, which helped to
indoctrinate introduce high-schoolers to a more
sophisticated understanding of such language!) American sign-language used to be limited to "giving the finger"!
Deaf people are smarter. But their opinions are seldom promulgated beyond their cohort.
(He taught AP English Literature, which helped to indoctrinate introduce high-schoolers to a more sophisticated understanding of such language!)
An understanding that the very book breaks just about every nonsensical rule they made up? ;) One wonders if it isn't some kind of prank that was taken seriously… cf. e.g. http://chronicle.com/article/50-Years-of-Stupid-Grammar/25497
I can't imagine that Jaybro would recommend Strunk and White… Whatever our differences, he speaks English! The Elements of Style shows people how not to reach for them…
Jimbro respects the language, and its speakers. (At least, I think he does.) When he taught, that was the least of his lessons -no doubt. But it was a requisite…
I don't think I'm wrong.
So. I goes, like, Jeeze, what the hell are we talkin' about?
Can we talk about anything, without invoking the 1st Amendment, first? Does at least a Circuit Court have to "sign off" on our speech, before we can speak? Some sort of government tribunal, some bunch of bureaucrats…?
I piss people off on a regular basis. (I'm talented, that way.) But would you really like the government to step in and keep me from putting my foot in my mouth…?
I'd ask you to think about it.
I don't think Jimbro will be put-off by a few expletives… Specially, a repeated one, as if Belfrager had read White and Strunk's Elements of Style… :) (He taught AP English Literature, which helped to indoctrinate introduce high-schoolers to a more sophisticated understanding of such language!) American sign-language used to be limited to "giving the finger"!
I spent four years in the Navy, so expletives come easy to me. And, as I just mentioned in the Lounge, I just installed a toilet seat, a task that elicited more than one expletive, here deleted.
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It's not needed that's for sure. But as it's the "free speech" thread, I'll try to ignore it. Not that I am condoning it though Belfrager.
Quoting it, doesn't really help matters.
As such it is clearly misplaced in such a civilised place as D&D. Thus moved to the Testing Board (https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=1306.0), for those testing indiduals who are too often bored.
Thus moved to the Testing Board (https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=1306.0),
1. Now you put it again to where I posted it. My posts are my intellectual property, not yours. You don't use them as it pleases you.
2. I don't renounce to my right to answer to insults and the way I answer them is my prerogative, not something limited by you.
3. You solve divergences of opinion and interpretation between moderators privately, not using my posts for that.
Thin ice alert: Bel, you're on it. Tread carefully.
Good advice. But I'd much rather watch him stamp his little foot in a tantrum and the thinner the ice the better.
Thin ice alert
That's a good allegory, a good image.
It applies well to free speech,
Thin ice free speech - copyright by USA.There's a real and important problem with the import of US rules, terms, conditions, eula and whatever to be applied to non American citizens at international forums.
If most of the time it doesn't interfere with the normal process of debates and discussions there is however moments when it's totally unwise to use such rules as kind of taser pistols American's police way.
Curiously, it was a non American to do that, while Luxor and Mjm showed common sense and politeness. I'm very disappointed with you jax.
Well, such is life.
Bel, you may be less thrilled with me when you find that I just moved a post by Krake for the exact same reason. Free speech comes with responsibility, you know. Exercising your ability to use foul language on a publicly accessible forum doesn't really come into that realm.
Here in the States we've practically enshrined the First Amendment. However, if you broadcast on the radio or on TV, expect to get the station license yanked if you can't control your mouth. Uttering a string of expletives is not acceptable in most forums I've ever been part of.
Bel, you may be less thrilled with me when you find that I just moved a post by Krake for the exact same reason.
Tu quoque fili mie...
Krake knows it all... he he :)
Here in the States we've practically enshrined the First Amendment. However, if you broadcast on the radio or on TV, expect to get the station license yanked if you can't control your mouth.
I really don't know what I have to do to make you understand that it's exactly that what you can't do - impose your culture to non American citizens in an international forum.
How many posts do I have? 1500, multiply it for let's say 50 words, 75 thousand words I wrote versus simply three words your cultural habits don't like to see written ( however it seems that, as krake demonstrated, English speakers loves to say it) and we're discussing banning menaces and so on?
(Not to count with all the posts from the previous opera forum...)
Now on I strike for my Cultural and European rights. I will say nothing more. Poster's strikes are allowed, I suppose...
1. Now you put it again to where I posted it. My posts are my intellectual property, not yours. You don't use them as it pleases you.
2. I don't renounce to my right to answer to insults and the way I answer them is my prerogative, not something limited by you.
3. You solve divergences of opinion and interpretation between moderators privately, not using my posts for that.
And yet, it has been moved.
Pity RJ and Belfrager aren't both Catholics or Protestants.
Helluva team that'd be. :devil:
"My posts are my intellectual property, not yours. You don't use them as it pleases you."
Hosea 13:3
Therefore they will be like the morning cloud And like dew which soon disappears, Like chaff which is blown away from the threshing floor And like smoke from a chimney.
Well now southern boy, I have to say that Belfrager is my interesting papist. As for Oakdale owning his intellect that isn't much to boast about.He is indirectly being honest poor man.
Yours sincerely,
modern Martin Luther
Well now southern boy, I have to say that Belfrager is my interesting papist. As for Oakdale owning his intellect that isn't much to boast about.He is indirectly being honest poor man.
Yours sincerely,
modern Martin Luther
*Searches for 'modern Martin Luther's" 95 Theses*
That's right, Southern Boy!
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:cheers:
Howie, if you don't say anything how do you expect anyone to reply? :) But, even when you do clutter my screen with "words", you don't say anything — except to reiterate your prejudice and animus against the United States. (Israel has taken a back-seat, eh?! :) )
How's the "heckler's veto" going in your country? (I ask, in an attempt to bring us back on-topic… I don't expect a Howie to answer; but surely there are others in Great Britain, even in Scotland?)
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Dear would-be intellectual redneck Oakdale man, please try and read and not skimp. Any time you are faced with the in-the-face US hypocrisy history you cannot or won't answer such. Instead you like to lean satirically as you cannot face such. However don't you worry the mental industry is a big player in the ex-colonies so I in turn can worry less about you. That is a relief. :coffee:
There can't be free speech when there's no free thinking.
There can't be free thinking when there's no free speech.
The one is the two and the two are the one. More or less like the Trinity but lacking the third one.
Definition of free thingking = The freedom to thinks something Stupid
definition of Free Speech = The Freedom to Exposing Ignorance
1. There can't be free speech when there's no free thinking.
2. There can't be free thinking when there's no free speech.
The one is the two and the two are the one. More or less like the Trinity but lacking the third one.
3. (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1334203382/GifGod.jpg) the free thinker who has no need to think!
However don't you worry the mental industry is a big player in the ex-colonies so I in turn can worry less about you. That is a relief. :coffee: (https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?action=reporttm;topic=1019.61;msg=42362)
As they are in the home islands… But you're okay with that. So: What's your problem? :)
On no you don't Oakdale! You live in the land of nut jobs and legions of head shrinkers making a fortune off the army of weak minds.Now as your country always likes to boast about everything please don't feel obliged to desist especially on that corner! Heavens you wil be clamouring to claim the land of free speech, freedoms and so on (yawn). 8)
From The Times Literary Supplement. A paragraph taken at random (almost) from a book review.
"The curious fact is that apocalypticism is not really natural to Evangelicalism which has such a deep desire to remake society, to reform a nation. This is surely Evangelicalism's priority, to which apocalypticism is subordinate.....So from one perspective, American Evangelicalism seems to have been using premillennialism, which is not its natural eschatology, to establish a fresh gulf between itself and secular humanism, and so regain its angular voice."
Does it not leave you speechless, if not breathless? There is a whole page of this.
Free speech indeed, and worth every penny.
Remove blender lid, insert words. It's a bit like an Rj post.
intellectual redneck, ex-colonies, Irn Bru, US hypocrisy history, arrogant corporate string-pullers, ex-colonies
Nice try dear new Southern Boy. Anything too direct is a no-no and time you escaped from your intellectual monk's cell!
Remove blender lid, insert words. It's a bit like an Rj post.
intellectual redneck, ex-colonies, Irn Bru, US hypocrisy history, arrogant corporate string-pullers, ex-colonies
You forgot "grey cell(s)". :left:
Remove blender lid, insert words. It's a bit like an Rj post.
intellectual redneck, ex-colonies, Irn Bru, US hypocrisy history, arrogant corporate string-pullers, ex-colonies. grey cells
It's a bit like an Rj post.
Yours being much worst. Unbelievably much worst.
Someone should have tell you this before.
a fresh gulf between itself and secular humanism, and so regain its angular voice."
Does it not leave you speechless, if not breathless?
No, I have retained my angular voice.
As i have pointed out in a separate thread jimbro has a constant infantile attitude about Russia/Putin so no right to yak at me nor has the laddie from below the Mason-Dixon as they are from the same giant world hypocrisy country that thinks it should rule the damn world and spent trillions for the benefit of the military-corporate world whilst millions of Americans starve are homeless and I have just discovered that those with learning difficulties run into tens of millions. It may make those who think they are something snipe but it is not a very educated nor principled stance at all as the facts are there in the face but they choose to snootily ignore. Their own government does everything to spy on everyone in their own borders and find ways of confining them with that age old excuse of "security."
Indeed their land would get more respect if they spent less time interfering in the world and causing military mess-ups. When you think on what goes in inside a country that makes so much two-faced stuff on principles, freedoms and all that mince it would be funny if not so serious. Then it could concentrate on things like their own people not just the cumfy who come on here blabbering. Probably less homeless, less on food stamps and homelessness living the written principles, Heavens their own government even stands on principles and their own constitution when it suits and gets away with it!
As i have pointed out in a separate thread jimbro has a constant infantile attitude about Russia/Putin so no right to yak at me nor has the laddie from below the Mason-Dixon as they are from the same giant world hypocrisy country […]
This, from the boy-o who gets bent out of shape when "foreigners" ask him about his peculiar habit of wearing a kilt! :)
Go soak your head, sir! (It needs it…)
As i have pointed out in a separate thread jimbro has a constant infantile attitude about Russia/Putin so no right to yak at me nor has the laddie from below the Mason-Dixon as they are from the same giant world hypocrisy country that thinks it should rule the damn world and spent trillions for the benefit of the military-corporate world whilst millions of Americans starve are homeless and I have just discovered that those with learning difficulties run into tens of millions. It may make those who think they are something snipe but it is not a very educated nor principled stance at all as the facts are there in the face but they choose to snootily ignore. Their own government does everything to spy on everyone in their own borders and find ways of confining them with that age old excuse of "security."
You should take up knitting so you'll have something fresh to post. Do you think that we haven't noticed your rat-a-tat-tat on the ills of the U.S.?
Ingredients for haggis......
1 sheep stomach
1 sheep liver
1 sheep heart
1 sheep tongue
1/2 pound suet, minced
3 medium onions, minced
1/2 pound dry oats, toasted
1 teaspoon kosher salt
1/2 teaspoon ground black pepper
1 teaspoon dried ground herbs
Directions
Rinse the stomach thoroughly and soak overnight in cold salted water.
Rinse the liver, heart, and tongue. In a large pot of boiling, salted water, cook these parts over medium heat for 2 hours. Remove and mince. Remove any gristle or skin and discard.
In a large bowl, combine the minced liver, heart, tongue, suet, onions, and toasted oats. Season with salt, pepper, and dried herbs. Moisten with some of the cooking water so the mixture binds. Remove the stomach from the cold salted water and fill 2/3 with the mixture. Sew or tie the stomach closed. Use a turning fork to pierce the stomach several times. This will prevent the haggis from bursting.
In a large pot of boiling water, gently place the filled stomach, being careful not to splash. Cook over high heat for 3 hours.
Read more at: http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/haggis-recipe.html?oc=linkback
Something like that might help.
Donald Trump takes free speech a bit too far...perhaps. Keep it up Donald!
“You know, it really doesn’t matter what the media write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.”
Yes sireee,
The Donald said that.
Not a bad effort there jimbro from a land that eats grit.
Wrong! We eat grits...at least in the South.
The missing s doesn't help much..yeuch.