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Forum Administration / Re: Moderation
I've seen it at least once. I was debating animal rights with someone and then another poster came around, saying something like "I think Someone may have a point there." He didn't keep up the charade very well and it was more pathetic than anything else, hardly banworthy, but it does happen.
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Forum Administration / Re: Moderation
Yeah, I kinda like the no personal attacks rule from The Old Place. I don't think we need to censor swearing but that may just be me.

I'm inclined to agree.
Rules against First Post and the like would mess up most Lounge games.

Naturally there would have to be (somewhat) different rules for different sections.
I'm not so sure about sockpuppets either - nothing wrong with banned users coming back as long as they behave.

I think it's talking about "real" sockpuppetry (i.e. making it seem like people agree with you when it's all just you), not about a new 'nym.
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Forum Administration / Re: What's in a Name?


Re Copyright in the forum I would guess that most cartoons shown in D&D probably infringe copyright if people wanted to be sticky. Can't say I approve at all but there it is.

Depends which laws actually apply. In the US it would be fair use ( don't pretend it's your own, link to the original just to be safe etc. ), but this isn't the US.
The Netherlands has citing right. It's somewhat similar to fair use, but more limited. The relevant law is in article 15a of authorship law.

It says (summarized, and don't completely trust my interpretations as IANAL):

  • Citing is not regarded as a breach of copyright if:

    • The work was properly made publicly available. (i.e. don't cite from unpublished stuff without permission)

    • The citing is in concordance with what society deems acceptable with regard to the size of the cited passages and whether it's justified with the intended goal in mind.

    • Article 25 is taken into account. (That's about what rights the author of a work has even after having sold the rights to their work. They can e.g. still object to publishing a work, but that already seems to be covered under point 1. There's also all kinds of stuff there about surviving relatives etc.)

    • As much as reasonably possible, the source, including the name of the maker, is mentioned.


  • Citing also means citing in press overviews of articles published in periodicals. (Isn't that freaking obvious? Law can so weird. :P I guess they might have some exceptions for overviews someplace else.)

  • This article also applies to citing in a different language than the original.



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Forum Administration / Re: What's in a Name?
Re Copyright in the forum I would guess that most cartoons shown in D&D probably infringe copyright if people wanted to be sticky. Can't say I approve at all but there it is.

There's also the integral copying of articles that showed up occasionally, sometimes even without source attribution. You can quote parts of an article to discuss them, but you can't simply paste the whole article. I realize that other website are *ahem*stupid*ahem* and they often seem to make no attempt to keep their links alive. I'm not talking about a My Opera-style shutdown, but simply a newspaper upgrading this or that aspect of their website and breaking all links every two years or so. Therefore I completely understand why one might wish to include an entire article, but unfortunately even if it disappears from the Internet completely it's still not okay. I'm not entirely sure how http://archive.org handles this.

There's also a lot of CC licenses out there, but all too often people seem to forget about the attribution part of that license.
On the disclaimer thing, I'm working on that.

One thing that might be worth considering is that each comment is not only the responsibility of an individual poster, but also the full property of the individual poster. Disqus essentially requires you to sign away all rights to your own comments. Disqus is awful. I want to be the anti-Disqus, so to speak. You give me the right to publish your comments, and to unpublish your comments if they violate the rules, and that's about it. If you could incorporate something along those lines into your first draft that'd be neat too.
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Forum Administration / Time display
You'll notice I'm running an experiment with ISO-8601, but I realize it may not be the most easily readable format. I suppose the default format wasn't too horrible, except I'd make it 24h and possibly add day of the week.

Default:
November 21, 2013, 08:04:15 PM
Today at 09:35:56 AM

Example proposal 1:
Tue 26 Nov 2013 23:52:12

(That's the format I use on my personal computer, by the way.)

The Unix timestamp is related to quick quote functionality. The forum itself works with a server round-trip, but I think that's ridiculous. I can hide it somewhere out of sight if desired but actually I kind of like it. Also, it would allow people to tap into it to change their personal time display with a UserJS if they wanted.
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Browsers & Technology / Re: Keeping an eye on Opera
Yeah, actual realtime media playback, processing etc. was one of the stated design goals.

Well, I guess they succeeded. I thought you needed something like a Pentium 200 or 233 at the very least for that kind of performance.

Opera ASA is the high-uppest corporate gold sponsor of Linux Mint http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2472

I notice it says the gold sponsorship ends on 31 December 2013.

Will it be sufficiently different from Chrome for anyone of us to use it? Why? (I noticed Frenzie hoping for a sensible Unix-like non-Chromish config&profile files system. I entertain no such hopes.)

I'm not sure if I entertain such hopes exactly, but I had no idea the bookmarks were implemented in plain text. I really meant it when I said that was the best news about Chropera I've heard yet.[/quote]
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Forum Administration / Re: Moderation
That means hiding this forum section entirely too.

For now I think hiding it from prying guest eyes is enough. Every My Opera member's input is welcome, especially since we presumably all have some experience with different communities.
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Are moderators expected to be online and active on preset hours?
No.
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Forum Administration / Re: Moderation
The server is in the Netherlands, so I would imagine Dutch laws apply. Mac, you interested in being a moderator in the Americas? There's no expectation of regular activity attached; I figure an occasionally visiting mod is still a lot better than one less mod.
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Browsers & Technology / Re: Keeping an eye on Opera
At least Firefox does not use a bloody database for search engines (which are by definition few) like Opium. At first I thought I had to edit the Jason file, until Krake mentioned that he had an XML (with line breaks).

I completely agree. Chromium might well be the epitome of a bad browser. I posted on this very subject last hour:

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=14992812
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The "bookmarks" plain text file, if it indeed serves as the QAB database, is the only Opera 18 database I've found that is plain text. That's why I think it's a temporary, quick fix.

Would you rather access your data through SQLite? I've had to do some of that in Firefox. It's a huge increase in complexity with not one single advantage as far as I can see. It just puts the user further away from their data. I can do it, but that's besides the point. If Opera had thrown up database-based obstacles back in 2001 chances are I wouldn't be able to today.

I'm probably wrong, but I prefer to think of it as a first step toward bringing Opera/Presto proper Unix-style plain-text configuration to the overall atrocity of Chromium.



Speaking of which, does anyone remember the mail client that came with BeOS? […]
Dammit I miss BeOS. Guess I'll check if any of the successor projects got anywhere lately.

Sorry, never used it. I actually have or had a BeOS demo disk somewhere which had the interesting capacity of playing reasonable-quality Xvid (or was it DivX…) video on my Pentium 100 without stuttering.
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Forum Administration / Re: What's in a Name?
Even if DnD were a company or a product, the reason Bounty the coconut candy bar and Bounty the cleaning product can coexist peacefully is that they're completely unrelated. I don't really see any relation between Debates & Discussions and Dungeons & Dragons.
But of course, if problems arises, it will be Frenzie to got them. That's not fair.
You tell us what you think about this issues, Frenzie.

I'm not sure it's really an issue, but I'm all open to suggesting a few different names.
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Browsers & Technology / Re: Keeping an eye on Opera
There are easier ways to add search engines in Firefox. One is built-in: bookmarks. In Firefox they're a sort of blend of Opera's bookmarks and search engine keywords. The second is an extension like URL Alias, which my wife uses. Somewhat ironically imo she occasionally uses Opera to help with the process of URL retrieval for more complex query strings.
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Browsers & Technology / Re: Keeping an eye on Opera
The large blog hanged for several seconds on my PC on every load and press of the "load more" button, and is a pain to scroll. And scrolling I must because of the sparse layout of the posts.

You can read my comments on why Disqus is an unusable POS here:
http://blogs.opera.com/news/2013/10/welcome-to-the-new-home-of-the-opera-news-blog/#comment-1104659747
http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2013/10/welcome-to-the-new-home-of-desktop-blog/#comment-1105611523

I'll have to rescue them from Disqus and mirror them e.g. here because… well, as I said, it's an unusable POS.

Btw, threaded comments is a standard Wordpress feature.

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Does migration to Disqus also mean that the new forums are physically stored on their network?

The horror! The horror!
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DnD Central / Re: This is a testing forum

I'm with Frenzie against video from that particular site. Threads with these embedded flash windows are unbrowsable memory hogs. Even when I'm interested in one post, I am forced to load most of the embedded players.
You should use Opera's plugin on demand functionality. :)

Besides not filling up the forum pages, this little test above taught me some other things: I can c/p regular links (or add an item to my right-click menu or some such) to open them in a proper video player, or to process them with a script. VLC comes with YouTube URL support baked in. Plus if you load it in a text-based browser you only get an iframe. This means a proper video bbcode should stick the URL underneath the video. In summary, it looks like I'd have to write it myself to get it right, but like I said before it's not a problem I'm especially interested in solving.