Since a few weeks I experience a kind of "not responding time" while a certain page is being built. During this time (10 secs?) Otter is completely unresponsive (no amount of clicking anywhere does anything). After this the page shows up (being an empty tab before) and Otter behaves normally again. This whole thing did not happen before and in my particular case this could for me be a show stopper.
Actually I do not think that it has something to do with Otter, but on the other hand, maybe it is connected with the change of Qt. (Or it is some change in the page itself, although no other browser shows this behavior. I am really not sure.)
I am under Win7 (happens on both 32 and 64 bit Windows) and I currently use the latest 32 bit RC in a portable mode. Could you people please be so kind to test if you experience this under the same and also different OSes? The link is:
In my profiles directory I created a subdirectory dictionaries and put - in my case - four files there: en_US.dic, en_US.aff, de_AT_frami.dic and de_AT_frami.aff. After a restart, one of the two dictionaries can be selected via a right click over a text input box. When writing text and making an error, the word in error is being underlined. A right click over it however shows no suggestions. The entry in about:config/Browser/SpellCheckDictionary apparently remains empty, but the selected dictionary remains selected between the sessions. Explicitly entering a selection into about:config/Browser/SpellCheckDictionary apparently didn't change anything.
Also, it apparently does not work after copy pasting the text into the box. A word has to be actively (erroneously) written/changed, in order to be underlined.
Also, in spite of selected dictionary apparently being remembered somewhere (even between the sessions), it seems that all (in my case both) dictionaries are active at the same time!
@Frenzie I have now tried without my profile (am using a portable mode). In that case I get the beginning of that page (but by far not the whole one, i.e. without graphs....) and Otter does not crash. (I have no idea which setting makes a difference.) If I then click on the login-area, then just another empty tab opens, but not the login page.
So you really got to see the whole page (containing the overview of my OSM work, with graphs, tables,...)?! I was/am not able to make it under Otter/Win7 (but am having no problems with K-Meleon to see the whole thing and get the proper login page, if I click on the login area). I am not aware of any special setting. Maybe it really is something special with the Otter/Win combination and some of my settings.
Could perhaps someone under Win try the above mentioned page, just to try to confirm that it is not only me?
Can I do something to debug this? (Sorry for prolonging this topic under this thread.)
Yes, the Page Information Panel is really informative! Also, probably due to the new QT, some pages which previously presented problems, function very nice now - example: http://www.arte.tv/guide/de
I have though a page of a kind that is more important to me, but brings Otter to crash. This is not new and I can of course live with that, but maybe someone finds time once to check what is going on: http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?Borut%40OSM
Yep - I also chose to install WebM yesterday evening. Everything went smoothly (I was only not able to start the Installer directly from Otter with Open, so had to save it first) and since then youtube videos can be viewed in Otter without problems. Many thanks from me too!
Only the last shortcut in the list (for the Copy action) seems to work. Windows users, being mostly used to Ctrl+Ins, apparently have to remove all Copy action keyboard shortcuts but this one, in order to make it work.
Also, when saving the keyboard shortcut definitions, it seems that only the last shortcut for the Copy action will be saved.
This applies also to RC1. Tested under Win 7, 64bit. Interestingly enough, it seems that only the keyboard shortcuts for the Copy action are involved. Other actions do not seem to suffer.
@Borut, and done, with current master you can set open hints for that action, you need to modify toolBars.json in your profile directory (you can find path in Help -> Diagnostic Report) and replace "GoToHomePageAction" by: [...]
Works great - have tried it now with W192 under Win7. Many thanks!
I have "Open new windows in tabs instead" checked and "Reuse current tab" NOT checked. This is good when some word(s) in a page are selected and one makes a search with a right click - the page with the search results opens in a new tab, which is what I want. However, when I am on some page and click "Go to Home Page" icon, I would prefer to reuse the currently active tab for my home page, instead of opening the home page in a new tab. (I am aware that many people would probably not like it that way.) Is this maybe still possible to achieve somehow?
Question 2:
Is there any option that would make the content of the folder .\cache\localStorage\ be deleted at the end of a session? I have "Clear history when application closes" and all its detail settings checked.
I could not care less for Win10, Chrome and Android. (And somehow I have a feeling that I am not the only one around here, but I might be wrong.) I use my special selection of small portable applications (including a portable application launcher) on every Win machine I touch. Otter has become my primary browser many weeks ago.
My impression is that for Emdek and annulen the monetization prospect has never been a driving force. (Yes, such people do still exist.) For the Otter-Browser I wish that both of them find the time for further development and the power to believe in the way they have chosen, so they can persist on their way.
It is a 32 bit build running under both 32 and 64 bit Win 7 (happens on both).
Hm.... Some of my checked options: Open new window in a new tab; Reuse current tab; Remember browsing history; Clear history when application closes; Events - Transfer completed: Show notification; Prefer native notifications; Widgset style: Fusion; Show download dialog for all.
Also, I have a user script active with "@include about:blank", which shows a fixed url from a local server.
At my place - under Win 7 - the crash happens almost always, for several weeks now (sorry, not sure exactly since when). The download process itself actually finishes successfully - the complete transfered file can always be found at the destination position - Otter apparently crashes immediately after the end of transmission. I was not able to note any difference between the (seldom) cases when it does not crash and the crashing ones. Had a feeling that the downloading tab has to be the active one when the transfer finishes, in order to crash, but am not completely sure of that.
Thanks for 171. I can confirm that history is now being cleared on exit. Also full screen mode is working fine again. The above described issue with opening new tabs when following links is still there, so let us hope that in some time it will be clear what happens and it will be possible to change it.
Many thanks for developing Otter - for quite a large percent of my daily browsing I am able to happily use it.
A small question: I am/was new to user scripts. Could you perhaps point me to a good source of knowledge, maybe not so about JS itself, but more about the binding to the browser events (as was here the case of loading about:blank)?
Your answers were eye openers for a few things for me - thank you for that!
When trying to simply assign a local file to window.location.href it indeed got blocked (as you thought it would be) and this was nicely shown in the console (Ctrl+Shift+O).
Explicit script reloading (via popup) indeed seems to work - obviously it was my handling error before. However, with checking/unchecking I am not sure if there was any effect. (Never mind, it is of no importance.)
So, then I decided to try a completely another solution and use a web server. I believe that it will still be portable enough for me. Sure, on the first start the system security asks if the server application should be allowed to do the job, but I believe and hope that this will in general go well for me. On my own laptop it is working superbly.
If anyone is interested, I am using the following two free applications for this: TinyWeb as server - https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/tinyweb/ PStart as application launcher - http://www.pegtop.net/start/ (for almost 10 years I am very happy with it - works well on 32bit WinXP and Win7, most probably also on newer ones).
Many thanks once more!
Update 2017-04-08 06:50:
Now my home page is being shown not only when I explicitly want to open a new empty tab, but also always when a new tab is being created, i.e. for instance when I right click a link and then "Open in New Tab", or "Open in New Background Tab". Instead of showing the wanted page in it, I get my home page.
My guess is, that about:blank is being shown first, and as soon as it happens, the script runs, so that real target page never shows up. Can something be done? As far as I can tell, the K-Meleon shows in such cases the page from the "launching tab" in the new tab (instead of the blank tab), for as long as the real target page is being fetched.
Many thanks for such a fast action. Regarding clearing history: It has always worked on explicit clear. Only implicit clear on exit was a problem. As I understand you got that and I am eagerly awaiting the next week binaries.
I have a bit of a problem with the script though. I apologize for my newbieness: I have disabled the StartPage in about:config. I have created a script file (currently directly in a subdirectory of the ./profile/scripts), activated it and it seems to work. However, I am trying to bring it to show a local page, but in vain. I tried something like 'file:///C:/...', or 'file://localhost/C://' and what not... Is it at all possible to access a local file here (due to sandboxing), or, what am I doing wrong? I do not have a local server (and I use Otter portably on different machines).
BTW, while trying scripts, checking, unchecking, reloading it in GUI, it seemed to me that a restart of Otter was always necessary to make it work (when it worked, i.e. when using the http protocol).
I am using the weekly 170 for WinXP (legacy QtWebkit) in the portable mode and have the following issues:
The visited links seem not to change color when in private mode. Maybe it is the Webkit, or maybe something could be done about it.
When not in private mode and the following options are checked: "Remember browsing history" and "Clear history when application closes" (and also "Clear browsing history" for the last "6666 h" in Clear history options), I still see the previous history after restarting Otter. This looks as a bug to me.
On this occasion a three tiny wishes:
Could perhaps the options dialog retain its current tab between invocations during the same session?
Could perhaps an option exist which, when checked, would mean that each new tab (when explicitly created) would open with a home page? This was not a possibility of Opera 12.18, but I find it very useful for those who, like me, have the bookmarks actually in the local home page, in order to be browser independent. (It is a feature of the K-Meleon.)
Could perhaps - besides the existing tab popup menu item "Clear Other Tabs" - the following two menu items exist: "Clear Left Tabs" and "Clear Right Tabs"?
I am one of the Win XP SP3 users, that (hopefully) know what (and why) they are doing. Being a long time user of Opera 12.x, I had great hopes in Vivaldi and first heard about Otter on Vivaldi blog in April 2016, shortly after Vivaldi dropped support for Win XP (after Chromium did the same).
Although I also use Win7, nothing above it is my cup of tea (it will be Linux, probably Mint). So, please do try to support Win XP SP3 as long as at all possible. I think that there are more Win XP users that would be happy. The current ability to support Win XP seems to be almost unique to Otter now.
Otter surprised and impressed me! I feel that you lack public relations (at least there should be a Wikipedia article about the Otter Browser, I would say).
