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DnD Central / Re: FIFA World Cups
Fifa: Sepp Blatter faces criminal investigation
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Swiss prosecutors have opened a criminal investigation into Sepp Blatter, the head of football's world governing body Fifa.

The attorney general's office said he was being investigated "on suspicion of criminal mismanagement as well as - alternatively - on suspicion of misappropriation".

Mr Blatter was being questioned, and his office was searched, it added.

Fifa said it was co-operating with the investigation.


Hmmmm !
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DnD Central / Re: Europe's Migrant Crisis


At a first glance, I see too many questions

Some of them deserve the predicate: "perverse"
Even the predicate "perverse" seems too pale for one of them: "Are the migrants simply escaping the consequences of their own culture And so what?"

After fu**ing up entire regions for 'convenient' regime changes, put the blame on the culture of those you've fu**ed up.
Understanding is not always possible, krake, by ignoring difficult questions.
The Taliban culture was a good example, I think, of a culture making life intolerable for its people and what about these people?. Each migration is different and has lessons to be learned. It's not all America's  fault!

Understanding the reasons for mass migration is part of the task at hand which, as I wrote, is bigger than the current crisis.
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DnD Central / Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming
Quote from: ersi
What's the meaningful difference between local and global?

An effective introduction of the ecological perspective in a single country may put it at an economic disadvantage compared to other countries. Then there are, for example, countries who poison rivers that run further into other countries. International agreements on these issues are indispensable.


Agreed absolutely. Cesspits export their stink.
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DnD Central / Re: The American 2016 Presidential Elections & The Ongoing American Saga
Since we don't have Presidents in the UK, there is not exactly an exact comparison, but the remarks on getting a good Republican Candidate strikes a chord with me even though were I an American I would probably lean towards the Democrats.

Those that are slightly interested might have noticed that the UK' has two major parties, Conservative and Labour - right of centre and left of centre respectively. Well Labour have recently elected a new Leader recently by the name of Corbyn who is very much on the left of left-of-centre. So much so in fact that it is quite possible that his Party stands no chance at all in future General Elections. As a floating voter whose vote has to be earned I like to have a real choice, not have only one party to vote for. So even though I voted for the Conservatives at the last election I don't want to be marooned there.

There is a parallel with the odd-ball candidate for Republican Candidate becoming the Republican Choice. The best situation, I feel, is if both eventual main candidates for President are up to the job.
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DnD Central / Re: The Weird, the Wacky and the Wonderful
Quote from: ensbb3

Random weirdness: But wonder why the logo poster is all caps except for the "side" in "OUTside"?

Am I missing something?

Or is it like if you're responding to someone that sounded far behind you only to turn around mid-statement and they're standing right behind you?  
":left: WE'RE GOING TO THE OUT! :right::eek: side one."


I think it must be because OUT is a magic word in PROUD Circles, so emphasise it "side" had to be demoted.
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DnD Central / Re: Europe's Migrant Crisis

At a first glance, I see too many questions:

To continue: Such migrations will again raise the questions we have today; tough questions such as
--- Are the migrants simply escaping the consequences of their own culture And so what?
--- Are they fleeing persecution or danger And so what?
--- Are they economic migrants And so what?
--- Should they all be resettled or sent back and by what criteria Why not let them choose for themselves? Are they cattle? Are they criminals?
--- Which country should take them in, their arrival point (current international law) or shared Idem
--- shared by whom, locally, or across a continent, across similar cultures or across the whole world
--- Who should pay
--- Who is going to answer these questions, each country by itself or by international agreement
(...)
Because it will happen again and again an again



Sorry to confuse you, but I see the EU is making a start on some.
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DnD Central / Re: Europe's Migrant Crisis

There is statistics. The relatively safe waters between Turkey and Greece are predominantly travelled by Syrians, Iraqi, and Afghans. Some Eritreans take this route, and while the number of Yemeni fleeing their civil war has been relatively low, this number is likely to increase unless or until this conflict is ended.

Swarm is not and was not an appropriate word, as it was used with intent and pre-meditation to take away people's humanity and individuality. I see no particular reason to be upset by that, he wasn't calling them "cockroaches", but neither is it something to be applauded or emulated. Politicians live and die by the word, and this was no off-the-cuff remark. Words might matter, but action, or inaction, matters more.

Britain, and yes Cameron, has a particular responsibility, as they were the primary force to  torpedo the EU Mediterranean "Mare Nostrum" rescue fleet.  Their theory was that rescuing people from drowning would encourage them to take the journey, and Our Sea has overflowed with deeply discouraged dead. Dead people in their hundreds could be laid at the doorsteps of Downing Street 10, but that might be considered an encouragement.

The UK government can feel encouraged that less Syrians take the Libyan route now, but then it was often quite involuntary to begin with. Syrians and other Asians take more natural Asian routes these days, leaving it for the Africans to take their chances in Libya.


I don't agree with your assertion that swarm is not apt, nor with the assumption that it was an intended belittling of the refugees by Cameron, such is the language of political bias. We can readily see that many of the refugees act as groups, following the current flow and favoured destinations and generated by some crisis. Any collective name is by definition collective, why even the term "refugees" puts such people into a box and is in no way used prejoratively. Indeed, there is, I see, a mathematics associated with the behaviour of swarms which might help in anticipating such things in the future. But at the time I think it was just a turn of phrase, not some Machiavellian insult.

It was an EU decision to curtail the Mare Nostrum effort, a decision which I agree was supported by Cameron, then recognised as a mistake and its successor operation supported by the UK.
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DnD Central / Re: The American 2016 Presidential Elections & The Ongoing American Saga

I agree with RJ.....I think "The Donald" is a fawkin' asshole!

Even though, to his credit, back in the late 70's his lot contributed handsomely to the boys of the IRA, he's still a fawkin' asshole!


So he is not just a "f a" but also has a huge dollop of bad judgement, supporting a bunch of murderous loosers".

I'm  glad to be reassured he will not be elected to damage the good name of the U.S. of A.
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DnD Central / Re: Europe's Migrant Crisis
If I may, I'd like to broaden the context a bit because I think that what we are seeing now it's just a tip of the iceberg compared to what the world will face in the future.

The present crisis is seemingly about fleeing a war zone (Syria) yet what percentage of those people come from Syria?  The answer is that they come from all over the place, See here, paras 4, & 5. Yes war seems be a major reason, but there are others, as rjh has pointed out such as economic for example.

But what is the future: I suggest that, as resources diminish we will see greater instances of famine in different parts of the world; we will also continue to see economic differences which will result in mass migration; as global warming takes effect we may even see migration due to that, or even population pressures of other kinds as individual countries reach their limits.

What I miss in the current "debate", or at least what passes for one, is a long term policy on how to deal with such migrants "swarms" in the future. ((an aside: the words "swarm" was a word used by David Cameron and he got a lot of stick for using it, but in fact it is quite a good analogy for a bulk influx of people suddenly appearing)).

To continue: Such migrations will again raise the questions we have today; tough questions such as
--- Are the migrants simply escaping the consequences of their own culture
--- Are they fleeing persecution or danger
--- Are they economic migrants
--- Should they all be resettled or sent back and by what criteria
--- Which country should take them in, their arrival point (current international law) or shared
--- shared by whom, locally, or across a continent, across similar cultures or across the whole world
--- Who should pay
--- Who is going to answer these questions, each country by itself or by international agreement

So lots of questions which I think need to be answered for the long term, and this is as good a crisis as any to start trying to answer.


Because it will happen again and again an again
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The Lounge / Re: Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer.
A:  Oh iphones went bust years before Kirk took flight, they could not overcome the competition from smartarse android phones with the new, dial-a-flavour lollipop attachments (see your picture)

Q:  Why can't we use icons instead of numbers?