Hi ersi,thanks for you feedback As you can imagine,I'm spanish,but I'm not catalan nor basque.I'm from a part of Spain where people only talk in castilian("standar" spanish).And like many other spaniards I'm not in favour nor against catalonia independence,I'm for democracy,and I think in this case (like in many others) the Spanish government is not acting democratically at all. The real problem in Spain is corruption.Corruption and lies:you can find a lot of people in power saying something and doing exactly the opposite thing.I know this is something you're going to find in many other countries,the difference is the percentage of people acting that way.And I can assure you that in Spain that is an endemic issue,and that percentage is higher than in many other countries of our environment.The judiciary system is simply a joke,there are many examples proving this point.There is no freedom of expression (I could have problems just for saying things like "in Spain the judiciary system is a joke" in places like twitter,there are policemen checking stuff like this in social media).In an environment like this one,the Spanish government has left no margin for democracy in Catalonia,it seems that everything goes against a catalan leader,documentaries like this show what kind of regime are we living in.By the way,documentarieslike this(crowfunded by an online newspaper) are really unusual in a country where all relevant media are owned by just a few corporations:
We've lived a similar situation for many years in the Basque Country.In both cases the Government of Madrid has left aside any democratic solution to solve a political problem that has been there since the very beginning of the Spanish history,centuries ago, and the only solution they've offered has been submission to Madrid or jail,torture,exile,death etc...like centuries ago. And of course,like we've already seen here before,now they're after catalan dissidents,but who will be next? Leftists? Muslims? Gays? the alt-right? and of course everything is being done in the name of law and democracy
well,thanks for the wellcome I like forums like this because there are people with very different opinions,among many other things. I wanted to point about the fact that fascist movements in places like Germany,France,UK,Belgium,Italy...were outlawed after WW2.In Spain we had a very different situation: the fascists who helped Hitler won the war in Spain,and they ruled for more than 40 years,their goal was to bring back the Borbon monarchy and make it look like something "democratic",not related to wars and fascism. They also made all the "changes" to present Spain as a democracy to the world in the 70s,but the same people who were in charge of the dictatorship were later ruling in the new "democracy". The ultimate goal was related to economic stability.As a dictatorship Spain could never be a member of the EU and similar institutions,so they made up a so called "transition" to make believe that Spain was now a democracy,but the truth is nobody related to Franco's regime was never jailed for their crimes.They even retained the power and the money earned killing people during 40 years,they created new political parties (Partido Popular,Ciudadanos...) and they're now one of the main sociological and economic powers in Spain.
So imagine a Germany in the 70s full of swastikas were Hitler died old,in his bed,ruling the country,deciding who will be his successor,while in the TV people doing the nazi salute praised his many crimes.Imagine the children singing nazi hymns in the 21st Century,that's what we see in Spain. Imagine a France were the President during 40 years was Marshall Philippe Pétain after winning WW2 for the fascists, where he was honoured until his death in the 70s and his followers are now the main political party in Government. Imagine Italy from 1940 to 1980 in a similar situation: Mussolini has been "El Duce" the last four decades,his followers have accumulated power and money for years and now they decide it would be good for their economy to turn the country into a democracy,because that will let them become members of many international institutions and treaties.Of course,none of them will never pay for their crimes,not at all.They will even retain power,money,influence etc... in the new regime. I could go on.Many other european coutries did have prominent fascist movements,but all of them were doomed after WW2,or at least none of them were in power th next 40 years after WW2.There are places like Portugal or Greece were there are analogue situations,but they're not the same.And you can see the levl of development of those coutries,it's pretty similar to Spain.Of course we had the eastern block,but that's another topic,I'm talking about fascisms related to nazis,WW2 etc.
Hi,guys I would like to ask for your opinions about what's happening in Catalonia.We've seen these last few months a lot of news about such topic and I would like to hear what people from different places and backgrounds have to say about it.
Do you think this is an european issue or just an internal problem in Spain? Do you think their elected president should be jailed? Do you think Spain should allow a referendum for independence like in Scotland? What do you think about peacefull movements like this,do they have any chance to succeed or a violent oposition would give them better options to achieve their goals? Do you think Spain is a democracy like for example UK,France or Germany? What do you know about the Spanish fascists? Do you know what happened to fascists after WW2 in countries like Germany,France,UK or Spain?
In fact,I'm interested in anything related to all the questios mentioned, not only the catalan issue.
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Do you think this is an european issue or just an internal problem in Spain? Do you think their elected president should be jailed? Do you think Spain should allow a referendum for independence like in Scotland? What do you think about peacefull movements like this,do they have any chance to succeed or a violent oposition would give them better options to achieve their goals? Do you think Spain is a democracy like for example UK,France or Germany? What do you know about the Spanish fascists? Do you know what happened to fascists after WW2 in countries like Germany,France,UK or Spain? 
,guys