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Reply #850 –
Quote from: rjhowie on

Many in all honesty do want to see change but will not get it with either Clinton or Trump and what they will get is the usual routine.

with Clinton maybe but not with Trump...if he wins, which is a strange thought to entertain, he surely would change America...maybe send the country 50 years back.

50 years back?

Reply #851 –
:sst: Please, anybody send my country 50 years back!

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Reply #852 –
Quote from: OakdaleFTL on
I suppose you can be excused from knowing much about the '70s…

So: You'd rather have an avowed socialist or a master practitioner of kleptocracy than Cruz, because you fear him being a Christian?
He's a constitutionalist — something I'd expect you to have little understanding of!

Still unable to answer that the GOP at best has an incoherent message and has rendered itself incapable of being a party of small government, I see. Perhaps this another factor that paved the way for the rise of Trump. Further, I see you've yet to check Cruz's particular branch of Christianity, Seven Mountain Dominionism, to see that it's incompatible with the constitutionalism and is rather scary stuff with a goal of imposing laws based on the sect's heretical teachings on everyone else. Some have gone so far as to call it a cult.

I know Clinton and Sanders are not small government either. At least they don't lie about that.
“What kind of man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.”
― Terry Pratchett, Going Postal

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Reply #853 –
Quote from: johnogaziechi on
with Clinton maybe but not with Trump...if he wins, which is a strange thought to entertain, he surely would change America...maybe send the country 50 years back.

You are correct, sir. Hillary will be more the same. Trump will be far worse. At one point, Trump said he'll change his rhetoric for the general election, but he doesn't realize that he's gone past the point of no return.
“What kind of man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.”
― Terry Pratchett, Going Postal

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Reply #854 –
Sang, Trump never appealed to you, nor could; nor to me, either. But he stands a good chance of gaining the nomination… Which, unfortunately, will likely "elect" Clinton.
(Without Ross Perot, we wouldn't have had Bill… :) But you knew that, right?)

The Republican Party has an incoherent "message"? And can't be the party of small government? (Compared to what?)
I'll grant, that the Democrat Party has a coherent message: Let's all be good little socialists! Later, we'll see where we can go… :)
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Reply #855 –
The next presidential election in Russia will take place on or before March 2018.
Anybody want to predict the outcome?


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Reply #856 –
Quote from: Barulheira on

:sst: Please, anybody send my country 50 years back!

Immigrate Barulheira, there's no hope for "Order and Progress" when governed by thieves. Thieves in the Government, robbers in the opposition - the delight of democracy...
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #857 –
Quote from: Jimbro3738 on

The next presidential election in Russia will take place on or before March 2018.
Anybody want to predict the outcome?

One thing is for sure. It won't be neither Billary nor the Donald. :)

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Reply #858 –
Cold War style answer jimbro but then you were brought up in that stuff! With the system that exists in the ex-colonies it only parodies the problem you lot have sniding at someone else.  :hat:
"Quit you like men:be strong"
 

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Reply #860 –
News on a smaller race. Sharon Angle is trying to take Harry Reid's spot in the US Senate. She already proved that either she's retarded or thinks the voters are in her last two attempts by blaming the decrease in Nevada home values in 2010 on Reid and claiming Frankford, Texas (a town that hasn't existed since circa 1975) is under Sharia Law and not the constitution. See, Oakdale, I tend to vote Democratic because not because they're supposedly liberal but because Republicans are either stupid or think the rest of us are. Those were among her more intelligent statements.

And she seems to support Trump for president and would like a Trump/Cruz ticket.
“What kind of man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.”
― Terry Pratchett, Going Postal

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Reply #862 –
Dunno, are you active? :)

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Reply #864 –
Makes him highly individual.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #866 –
Quote from: Frenzie on

Dunno, are you active? :)
dunno, my newbee tag doesn't suggest much 'activity'  :doh:..
However, for sake of clarification lemme rephrase...  Any African in the house who isn't johnogaziechi.

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Reply #867 –
Obama counts?

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Reply #870 –
So much truth, in such a small package!

Joe Dan's got it   'balls on dead center'   with this one! 


[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvzXfc7ereg[/video]  


     ......... it seems the more they try to pile on Trump, the stronger he gets?!    

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Reply #871 –
Again, though, when people are pissed (ie, "outraged) do they make the best choices?


Quote from: SmileyFaze on
......... it seems the more they try to pile on Trump, the stronger he gets?!

You don't understand. Hard core Democrats WANT Trump to be the GOP nominee. Real Clear Politics polls show Trump being crushed by Clinton. If you notice, he's not getting stronger, at least in the general election, with the newer polls showing him falling further behind her. By election day, we're looking at a landslide. The only question will be how dark of an aura will he cast on the Republican candidates for other offices.
“What kind of man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.”
― Terry Pratchett, Going Postal

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Reply #872 –
Quote from: johnogaziechi on

dunno, my newbee tag doesn't suggest much 'activity'  :doh:..
However, for sake of clarification lemme rephrase...  Any African in the house who isn't johnogaziechi.

I'm not sure really. None of the regulars I don't think. Oh yeah, and we're just pulling your finger. ;)

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Reply #873 –
It is one thing a man who is not a routine politician in principle getting involved but Trump is ignorant, embarrassing and makes the system look even worse than it practically is.  What an example and portrayal that gives to the world. Clinton will win and although steeped in politics has been a liar, cheat and such. I will tell you this that her election will mean damn all to the millions of poor, homeless of downtrodden inside the country and continue to be sticking the nosei n everywhere else ion the world. A more deep rooted change is needed but the might of the financial controllers makes that a dream - sadly.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #874 –
Quote from: rjhowie on
It is one thing a man who is not a routine politician in principle getting involved but Trump is ignorant, embarrassing and makes the system look even worse than it practically is.
Sort-of like RJHowie running –twice! Huh?
Still, that was only for local office — something that I applaud! But, sir, you were rejected twice by your neighbors… Did you ever ask them why? :) No. Of course, not.

But of course you mean -when talking about Trump- that he might actually win! Well, it's a remote possibility… I'd hope not, too. But my reasons are different from yours:
I don't want to see my country follow the same path as yours.
So, if the Democrat candidate is H.R. Clinton — I'd vote for Trump! Better an idiot than a rabble-rousing socialist crypto-capitalist like Clinton. Kleptocracy is not what I'd vote for…

Of course, most Dems are assuming -that if Trump wins– both the Senate and the House fall back under Dem control… Because Democrats assume voters are stupid! Perhaps they are. Still, the Democratic "operatives" are stupider… They will do what they do; they know no other way.
What happens, if neither the Senate or the House changes hands!?
Good for the country, I'd say. Should Trump become president, we'd really need a Republican House and Senate — to constrain his "proclivities"… :(
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"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
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