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Reply #50
"Had you not demurred you would have been rash!"
Indeed! But why be concerned with trifles?
Specially, when so many have rifles…
There is only one way to fight. […stifles
the natural fellow-feeling, until
it is done. Or until you've had your fill.
Then, suffers the all-too-common result:
Becomes a recluse, an outcast, a cur;
a person not fit to keep others' (…her)
company.] One fights, when one does, to win.
Surely, everyone understands this much?
And, yet, we face an enemy… And Djinn

are their most potent weapons, their first such.
Their second is their willingness: To die
is all they want. They are deficient; lie
to themselves and others, because they must…

Their creed is little more than a bent crutch!
But -in order to feel important and
vibrant- they show their cards. And their hand
is
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Reply #52
on the other hand ,    I don't think we can chit - chat at the coffee shop, karaoke club  , nor at the campfire ,  etc.
I did a search for karaoke on the forum and this came up.

I wanted to listen to the Bassie en Adriaan theme song. I couldn't find it. All I could find was people from all over the world singing it…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICKAAWSnPLQ

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Reply #53
I propose that our dear @Belfrager (RC) and the solidly grouchy Scot, @rjhowie (P), should debate Transubstantiation and Consubstantiation.

:wait:

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Reply #54
So Jesus can read the posts and say "All I was telling them to do was remember me :faint: "
“What kind of man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.”
― Terry Pratchett, Going Postal

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Reply #55
Let this be a lesson and warning to all of you!

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cRxiJkiDrw[/video]

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Reply #56
Transubstantiation and Consubstantiation
You don't have the required basis to understand "Transubstantiation". The other fellow doesn't understand anything.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #57
Transubstantiation and Consubstantiation
You don't have the required basis to understand "Transubstantiation". The other fellow doesn't understand anything.
How so? The RC version can't be too far from the Methodist tradition (my former denomination), as it is descended from Anglicanism, and I think we can both agree that they (Anglicans) pilfered quite a bit from Catholicism when they split.

Agreed that Howie probably just thinks they are both long words. 

In any case, I was proposing the debate between the two of you, not me.

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Reply #58
I'm more than a little surprised that a novel about Faust and Mephistopheles which I had as a hard-cover finds no cites via Google… The author was British, and -I believe- an academic… (Go figure!) But the penultimate scene crucially involved transubstantiation.
I wish I still had the volume (…I doubt the debauchery described would much bother you). Some of the writing was quite good; and many of the tropes were important morally. If I find an on-line reference to it I'll pass it along.
(No! I'm not gonna give you the plot spoiler… Convert, damn you! :) )
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Reply #59
In any case, I was proposing the debate between the two of you, not me.
Dogmas are out of debate, you know that.
How so? The RC version can't be too far from the Methodist tradition (my former denomination), as it is descended from Anglicanism, and I think we can both agree that they (Anglicans) pilfered quite a bit from Catholicism when they split.
It doesn't matter, you only have transubstantiation at a Mass celebrated by an ordered Catholic Priest. It's not a DIY.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #60
Yep the Anglicans did pilfer from you Belfrager and fully agree with that point. We here were more fortunate in that we had a far wider break and more independent. Our break came from the bottom folk not those at the top like the Anglicans.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #61
When it comes to my traditional corner of protestant tradition I recall a leader in Ulster via a speech back in 1922 when the border was being arranged  and how far it would penetrate he said "Not an inch." (!)
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #62
You recall…? :)
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"Humor is emotional chaos remembered in tranquility." - James Thurber
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman
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Reply #63
Surprising, eh?  :o
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #64
Yeah! I didn't think you were that old… :)
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"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts!" - Richard Feynman
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Reply #65
That's how I put up with all you youngies trying to be mature.......
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #66
         :idea:     
     In times of universal deceit, telling the honest truth is a revolutionary act.


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Reply #68
@Belfrager is such a wet blanket......

I know good and well he'd like to champion Roman Catholicism > Protestantism, and @rjhowie the reverse.
Surely there is something you two would be willing to debate?

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Reply #69
I know good and well he'd like to champion Roman Catholicism > Protestantism,
Discussing with servants from the bottom? nope. Not admissable.
Atheists & agnostics seems to me more juicy as entertainment. :)
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #70
Well I for some time was friendly with a priest and a nun. And why not after all I have a couple of ex-colonists whom I get on with!
"Quit you like men:be strong"