The DnD Sanctuary

Well...

I've got a cable, and tomorrow I'm to pay my first rental fee. The other - still undead, but not undead enough - as if pervider, having stolen a good bit of my money paid, has proven being a piece of shit (some prefer "Scheiße").

ADSL but it's not on your list.

What a hell is that at all?

ADSL but it's not on your list.

I think "local net" is supposed to cover that, at least if we read it as something like "over a wire".

What a hell is that at all?

*DSL (ADSL, VDSL) is Internet over telephone lines. DOCSIS goes over your typical TV coaxial cables.

Yeah, it's the first option.
Who uses telephone lines these days!? ???

What a hell is that at all?

Asymmetric digital subscriber line (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_digital_subscriber_line)

I think "local net" is supposed to cover that,

Hmm! Maybe, wouldn't describe that as local net myself though.

Who uses telephone lines these days!?

Most of the UK for starters. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/253164678/thumbdown.gif)

Anyway, I seem to have meant the structural type of connection - not the protocol, which are many. Are they?

Hmm! Maybe, wouldn't describe that as local net myself though.

We have "/cable" there.
Is that via a cable or what? "Cable", "wire", "Schlang";)

Cable here means fibre optics. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/253164678/Wink.gif)

Here is where?
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/cable_1?q=cable

Who uses telephone lines these days!?

Tons of people, even if only for Internet (like me). The infrastructure is already there; it'd be madness not to use it.

Here is where?
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/cable_1?q=cable (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/cable_1?q=cable)

Doesn't matter what it says there. Cable here is fibre optic, ADSL is copper wire phone lines. Trust me I live here. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/253164678/Tease.gif)

So what do you call coaxial cable? In the case of both *DSL and coaxial cable the backbone is mostly fiber optics; it's just the last mile (or few hundred meters) that's over the existing infrastructure. Fiber optics has really nothing to do with any old infrastructure at all, regardless whether it's being planted by a telephony or cable company.

Trust me I live here.

In Luxorshire?
International application prevails over any local one, sorry.

What we call cable here is only supplied by one provider and that's mostly in the big city's and they provide cable TV, telephone and internet all in one package. The rest of us are stuck on BT's decrepit old copper wire lines (even they have started fibre optics in some areas though). And yes coaxial cable is a cable but not in the same sense as describing our internet connection, not here any ways.

In Luxorshire?

You could call it that, yes.  (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/253164678/BigGrin.gif)

International application prevails over any local one, sorry.

Try telling that to the locals.  (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/253164678/Whistle.gif)

and that's mostly in the big city's

In the big city's what?
(One certain big city?)

Nice smilies!
Your own set?

The rest of us are stuck on BT's decrepit old copper wire lines

My modem syncs at 70 Mbit on Belgacom's decrepit old copper wires, and I'm fairly certain it could do more. :P

In the big city's what?

You're being pedantic again.  (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/253164678/tonguesmiley.gif)

Nice smilies!
Your own set?

Just a bunch of them accumulated over the years from different sources.

My modem syncs at 70 Mbit on Belgacom's decrepit old copper wires, and I'm fairly certain it could do more

I average about 7.15 Mb/s but I'm lucky as I'm close to the exchange, during peak times that can drop drastically though.  Most folk I know are struggling to get above 1Mb/s at the best of times. If they achive the dizzy heights of 2Mb/s they have a party as they think it's their birthday.

I had 2 Mb/s on ADSL at the end, although it started out at 6 MB/s. Somehow the interference must've increased. However, in the Netherlands VDSL doesn't often go over 20 MB/s or so because the connections go all the way to the telephony exchange, while here in Belgium they've extended the fiber to the street boxes.

2 Mb/s isn't that bad; it's mainly frustrating that they make you pay just as much as people who get 21 Mb/s (which you get with ADSL2+ if you live really, really close to the exchange). For that matter I'd gladly pay the same for lower speed and higher volume, or even slightly less for lower speed and the same volume. Oh well.

Got your horse, Frenzik?
Enjoy! ;)

Que?

2 Mb/s isn't that bad;

Maybe if it was a constant 2 Mb/s it wouldn't be and I doubt no one would complain if it was. But round here you would be lucky if you were able to get a fifth of that once peak time started which I think is from 6 pm onwards. The very time most people would be using it.

it's mainly frustrating that they make you pay just as much as people who get 21 Mb/s (which you get with ADSL2+ if you live really, really close to the exchange).

I agree, It would be much fairer on people if you paid for the speeds you are getting rather than the potential maximum speed connection. Can't see the ISP's being in favour of that one though.

Maybe if it was a constant 2 Mb/s it wouldn't be and I doubt no one would complain if it was. But round here you would be lucky if you were able to get a fifth of that once peak time started which I think is from 6 pm onwards. The very time most people would be using it.

That's awful, but it doesn't have anything to do with ADSL technology. That's all congestion at the backbone. They can't sustain 2 Mb/s per connection at peak hour? What is this, 1999? :right:

That's awful, but it doesn't have anything to do with ADSL technology. That's all congestion at the backbone.

Yeah I know, oversubscribed is what we usually call it.

They can't sustain 2 Mb/s per connection at peak hour? What is this, 1999?

Pathetic isn't it.
I've one friend who would have been better sticking to his dial-up modem connection, what speeds he get's for what he pays for is daylight robbery. But that's rural areas for you.

Que?

Je ne mange pa sis jours!
:P
O'k, I've got my pay, and since now (on, hopefully) I seem to be a legitimate user of The Cable.:P ;)

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DSL from AT&T.

9/10 on my scale of customer satisfaction.

 I didn't get that: isn't "cable" a "broadband" (http://www.speedguide.net/terms_popup.php?seek=^BROADBAND$) too?

Anything sufficiently fast is "broadband", although the name implies a broad band of frequencies.

What exactly should that mean? "Frequencies"?

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From what I understand, anything higher than the bandwidth of a voice channel is "broad".

OESO defines it as at least 256 kbit/s. (See here (http://www.oecd.org/sti/broadband/oecdbroadbandsubscribercriteria2010.htm).) That's still twice the maximum speed you can achieve with ISDN (128 kbit/s).

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(Here just to up the thread.)
A radio presenter in Kent just steadily pronounced it as Winsconsin:)

(Why can't I see J7n's posts here properly?)
I have no cable net here for the second day, and no clue when - or if...

He removed each and every one of his posts. No idea why.

Arrgh!
I liked his participation!
Gonna try emailing him some time soon. ???