Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #225 – 2014-01-16, 09:44:16 The thing with Chropera's net installer is that it's a device to facilitate downloading a stillborn product. Is the net installer really making anything better about the product itself? This is the first point against it. The second point against it that it's dowsn't fulfil its stated purpose. The alleged purpose is this: "Opera, being popular in developing and low-bandwidth markets, have seen frequent failed installations due to network and other problems." How is this supposed to help against network problems or low bandwdith? Only a solid download manager of the full installer would help. The Opera net installer is just a downloader for one single program. Worthless.Also: "The new installer will retry downloads if there are problems, ensure the latest version is always the one installed, and enhance security of the installation process." So, it is yet another update-enforcer, adding to net activity, calling home whenever possible, etc? Not just worthless, but outright dangerous.
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #226 – 2014-01-16, 21:01:14 Quote from: ersi on 2014-01-16, 21:44:16Also: "The new installer will retry downloads if there are problems, ensure the latest version is always the one installed, and enhance security of the installation process." So, it is yet another update-enforcer, adding to net activity, calling home whenever possible, etc? Not just worthless, but outright dangerous. Last Edit: 2014-01-16, 21:40:26 by SmileyFaze
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #227 – 2014-01-17, 12:21:01 I'm sorry. Carry on. Last Edit: 2014-01-17, 14:08:05 by j7n
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #228 – 2014-01-17, 13:30:25 Intentionally divided? By whose intention?
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #229 – 2014-01-21, 14:21:01 Is Opera Mediaworks the reason that Opera has moved the browser to a lower priority?
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #230 – 2014-01-21, 15:29:27 Among one of the reasons, certainly. Change of business interests. Important reason.
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #231 – 2014-01-22, 09:25:27 Quote from: pizzapops on 2014-01-22, 02:21:01Is Opera Mediaworks the reason that Opera has moved the browser to a lower priority?Quote from: ersi on 2014-01-22, 03:29:27Among one of the reasons, certainly. Change of business interests. Important reason.A Total Sellout.....Greed, plain old Unadulterated Corporate Greed! Last Edit: 2014-01-22, 18:37:24 by SmileyFaze
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #232 – 2014-01-22, 15:29:37 Quote from: pizzapops on 2014-01-21, 14:21:01Is Opera Mediaworks the reason that Opera has moved the browser to a lower priority?Surely it is more shiny. It has been fairly successful, the browser much less so.
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #233 – 2014-01-31, 21:32:44 Opera 19 comes with promises (more). That's pretty neat.
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #234 – 2014-02-06, 20:24:05 Well, my question is not exactly about what's happening with Opera but about what happened.Where do I get older versions, Opera 12 for example, to install? I needed it because computers crashes definitively and I want to use what I had not what they offer now.Thank you.
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #235 – 2014-02-06, 20:37:07 Try herewww.opera.com/download/guide/?ver=12.16Cheers
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #237 – 2014-02-06, 21:50:29 If you want a portable version (either for USB or for a local file folder) try here Opera 12.16 Portable
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #238 – 2014-02-06, 22:36:59 Or from here: ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #239 – 2014-02-06, 22:41:17 Quote from: SmileyFaze on 2014-02-06, 21:50:29If you want a portable version (either for USB or for a local file folder) try here Opera 12.16 PortableExcept an extra loader, what is the difference between the portable from PortableApps and the native installer (with the USB option checked)?
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #240 – 2014-02-06, 23:39:35 Quote from: krake on 2014-02-07, 10:41:17Except an extra loader, what is the difference between the portable from PortableApps and the native installer (with the USB option checked)?Why not install it, & see it first-hand for yourself.
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #241 – 2014-02-07, 07:25:49 Quote from: krake on 2014-02-06, 22:36:59Or from here: ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/You have a greater selection here: http://arc.opera.com/pub/opera/
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #242 – 2014-02-07, 09:22:57 Quote from: Frenzie on 2014-02-07, 07:25:49Quote from: krake on 2014-02-06, 22:36:59Or from here: ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/You have a greater selection here: http://arc.opera.com/pub/opera/Do you? ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/ <=> ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/That should be something trivial (at least for you ).However I gave the second link exactly for the reason to not confuse our Portuguese friend. I bet he is on Windows anyway
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #243 – 2014-02-07, 09:25:07 Quote from: SmileyFaze on 2014-02-06, 23:39:35Why not install it, & see it first-hand for yourself. I did once, hence my question
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #244 – 2014-02-07, 09:36:05 Quote from: krake on 2014-02-07, 09:22:57However I gave the second link exactly for the reason to not confuse our Portuguese friend. I bet he is on Windows anywayI inform you, Suevian friend, that I'm right in the process of invading Linux land.My entrance will be memorable and my dominance over the poor linuxers ruthless. Already posting with Opera 12.16 again, thank you.
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #245 – 2014-02-07, 10:15:32 Quote from: Belfrager on 2014-02-07, 09:36:05My entrance will be memorable and my dominance over the poor linuxers ruthless. You mean linuxistas? Keep in mind Bel, there are also people migrating from Linux to Windows The Review Last Edit: 2014-02-07, 10:37:49 by krake
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #246 – 2014-02-07, 10:22:27 Quote from: krake on 2014-02-07, 09:22:57Do you? ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/ <=> ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/That should be something trivial (at least for you ).Mais oui! You missed the arc for archive. However, I should've probably linked to http://arc.opera.com/pub/opera/win/
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #247 – 2014-02-07, 10:34:08 Quote from: krake on 2014-02-07, 10:15:32linuxistas?Linuxeiros... (Whatever word you choose, they all sound terribly!)
Re: Keeping an eye on Opera Reply #249 – 2014-02-07, 17:32:33 Opera is making their old tests publicly available:https://github.com/operasoftware/presto-testoI think it'd be interesting to see how Blink fares. *whistles*