Re: Tripe about Ukraine
Reply #854 –
No they are not Russian soldiers. What I have said is that there will be Russian ex-military volunteering. I watched Frenchmen being interviewed who are fighting for the rebels. That there is a mass invasion by the Russian Army is a load of cobblers and follows the old stock adage of repeating the same thing long enough to become standard.
What about the cluster bombs used by the Ukrainian Army, eh?? Most sensible countries have banned those terrible types of bombs so why no condemnation? Or the films a while back of what looked awfully like phosphorous bombing? Any nation that does not acept the US's idea of democracy (snigger) or the West's way of doing things can expect to be hounded and lied about. Didn't we have a US fleet hovering about near China but that doesn't count? Talk about odd mindsets.
Although i for a long time have been of the view that Ukraine should be Federal because of the different bakcgrounds and groups living there i think it almost deserves losing the two eastern provinces. The "revolution" in Kiev was NOT universal and indeed the folk in the east not even consulted. Then they had their language removed as an official State one and thought the people there would just accept their less than inclusive overthrow of a legitimate government. Russia has a right to be concerned the way the millions of Russian speakers and traditionals were treated after all as i have well said it is okay for America to have hundreds of bases everywhere to "guard it's interests." What that means is the corporate string pullers.
So it was okay for the West Ukrainian lot to have a one-sided "revolution" then treat the East like rubbish? Russia has NEVER demanded the 2 regional East places at any time but they are sure as Hell right to be concerned the way people there were treated. Ukraine has been and is a damn mess and continue being so. The warfare has been fanatically nationalist and the East treated like rubbish. Kiev created this civil war and deserve to lose it. To give Kiev all that money in loans is a big, big mistake in such a corrupt place. It is too divided a country and unfortunately due to the head bangers in Kiev they will lose another bit and deserve too. That we in the West slavishly follow any lie that comes out of Kiev is a disgrace, immoral and not principled.