Where debating everything under the sun is only the beginning

......."A Message to the Allies of America" includes what appears to be a threat directed at British Prime Minister David Cameron, news.com.au says. "For being a lapdog, Cameron, you will drag your people into another bloody and unwinnable war," the video warns.

Cameron responded to the video by tweeting: "The murder of David Haines is an act of pure evil. My heart goes out to his family who have shown extraordinary courage and fortitude. ... We will do everything in our power to hunt down these murderers and ensure they face justice, no matter how long it takes."

Cameron has returned to his residence at Downing Street and is expected to chair a meeting of the government's emergency response team Sunday.

Late Saturday, the White House released a statement from Obama in which he says the United States strongly condemns the "barbaric murder" of Haines.

"Our hearts go out to the family of Mr. Haines and to the people of the United Kingdom," the statement reads. "The United States stands shoulder to shoulder tonight with our close friend and ally in grief and resolve.

"We will work with the United Kingdom and a broad coalition of nations from the region and around the world to bring the perpetrators of this outrageous act to justice, and to degrade and destroy this threat to the people of our countries, the region and the world."...............................Continued

The lass who left university here in my city and disappeared over to the IS attended a very expensive and high class private school leaving her family numbed. She has also sent word back she would like to bring the IS black flag back home to here. Well she better not damn try that.

I would go a bit farther than Smiley, believe it or not......

......once you leave your home to join a group such as ISIS, your citizenship in your former home should be terminated and you should be considered as the enemy that you've become.....

........ Citizens or no, they should be rounded up, tried for treason against humanity, found guilty, & then humanely put to a swift death en mass .........
..... They should never be allowed to breathe our good & free air .........

Smiley--- you misunderestimate me. Removing citizenship merely recognizes officially what has already taken place. A person who leaves his home to join ISIS has become a traitor-- removing citizenship recognizes that fact and makes the person "fair game" for whatever we're doing to the rest of ISIS. If the rest of the world finally gets tired of it and decides to exterminate ISIS to the last man--- too bad, so sad, shouldn't have betrayed your homeland if you wanted to live.

A person charged with serious terrorism-related offences after police raids in Sydney this morning was allegedly planning to abduct a person off the street and film their beheading.

Police have confirmed raids across Sydney this morning thwarted a plan to commit violence against “a member of the public on the streets”.

9NEWS understands the man is accused of plotting to abduct a person off the streets and decapitate them in a manner similar to the recent ISIL beheadings of US and UK citizens in Syria.

The suspect allegedly intended to wrap the body of the victim in an ISIL flag and upload video of the murder online.

Raids were also carried out in Brisbane but police said they weren’t directly linked to the operation in Sydney.

Three people were arrested after over 800 police officers searched 15 homes in north-western Sydney, in a joint AFP and NSW Police counter-terrorism operation called “Operation Appleby”.

Police executed search warrants in Beecroft, Bellavista, Guildford, Merrylands, Northmead, Wentworthville, Marsfield, Westmead, Castle Hill, Revesby, Bass Hill and Regents Park.......................CONTINUED

Is it okay for American authorities to be irresponsible with impunity towards any non-citizen? Is this how Americans view citizenship?

As I unknowingly predicted, it is now starting ....... are you sure it wont happen in your neck (no pun intended) of the woods?

A group of Iraqi Sunni refugees had found shelter in an abandoned school, two families to a room, after fleeing fighters from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. They were gathered in the school’s courtyard last week when the Iraqi Air Force bombed them.

The bombing, in Alam District near Tikrit, may well have been a mistake. But some of the survivors believe adamantly that the pilot had to know he was bombing civilians, landing the airstrike “in the middle of all the people,” said Nimr Ghalib, whose wife, three children, sister and nephew were among at least 38 people killed, according to witnesses interviewed last week, as well as human rights workers who detailed the attack on Wednesday.

The attack fit a pattern of often indiscriminate shelling and airstrikes on Sunni areas by the armed forces of the Shiite-led Iraqi government. The strikes have added to a long and bitter list of Sunni grievances, leading many to view the government’s leaders as an enemy — and some to regard the government as an even greater threat than the Sunni extremists in ISIS.

Since this seems to be the ISIL thread by default:

Quote from: ersi on 2014-09-17, 12:51:52

Is it okay for American authorities to be irresponsible with impunity towards any non-citizen? Is this how Americans view citizenship?

Two words: Guantanamo Bay.

About how Muslim women don't actually choose to wear a hijab:

Six Iranians arrested for appearing in a video dancing to Pharrell Williams' song Happy have been sentenced to up to one year in prison and 91 lashes, their lawyer says.

Just shows how far they ae from freedom and democracy as I have said.Talk about spiritual knuckle-draggers.

Quote from: jax on 2014-09-19, 01:48:36

Since this seems to be the ISIL thread by default:

That is wrong, we should change it. I ask you all for thinking about it.

As well it should be. The disconnect between the statements of the administration — and the government and media establishment in general — and reality is increasingly large, and Americans are noticing in increasing numbers. “Obama’s ‘not Islamic’ Islamic State Claim Ridiculed,” IPT News, September 11, 2014.......

........The claim, also made by Obama’s predecessors, is “preposterous,” Daniel Pipes wrote for the National Review Online. “To state the obvious: As non-Muslims and politicians, rather than Muslims and scholars, they are in no position to declare what is Islamic and what is not.”

    Author Sam Harris, an atheist who challenges all religions, went further, dismissing Obama’s argument as a “scrim of pretense and delusion.”

    “Which will come first, flying cars and vacations to Mars, or a simple acknowledgment that beliefs guide behavior and that certain religious ideas—jihad, martyrdom, blasphemy, apostasy—reliably lead to oppression and murder?” Harris wondered in an essay. “It may be true that no faith teaches people to massacre innocents exactly—but innocence, as the President surely knows, is in the eye of the beholder. Are apostates ‘innocent’? Blasphemers? Polytheists? Islam has the answer, and the answer is ‘no.'”.........................Continued