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How blind my US rants are Sanguinemoon

-Nearly 10,000 killed by guns annually.  People even stick military style weaponry.
-Police problems every week somewhere over misuses of guns.
-Schools a regular place for shootings. More police looking like military must be a hell of a dangerous living.
-Proportionally amongst the highest forin the world in jail - and executions many found later to be flowed. .
-People in death row for years sometimes a decade. Disgusting and form of torture.
-Half the world's military expenditure. Over 400 bases world wide and still increasing.
-A million a year lose their homes.
-Forty million poor on food stamps (quite a percentage population-wise. Can't all be stupid or worse  prob.
-Many of poor die as too poor for meds.
-More spy agencies than the old USSR and the 3rd Reich. And a dumbness as "security" used.
-For all the Constitution people constantly spied or hampered. Phone, pc, mobile phone not secure.
-CIA torture regime for years.
-Concentration Camp Cuba (shouldn't be there). Even innocents declared still in it. Recognising sovereignty?
-Tries to corner Russia because won't give in to routine US attempt to control the world by US Cold War.
-Political system out of date and fewer people coming out to vote which says something.
-Race is still a big problem in the political system.
-What passes for a parliament is run by a millionaires club and all funded in background by corporates.

Yet, even with what RJ lists as his overwhelming  reasons not to go there, America is still the most desired place where peoples from all around the world still wish to migrate to. People obviously think the price is miniscule in comparison to the Freedom, Liberty, & Opportunity that is available to those who wish to work hard for it - in RJ's hell hole   -  in the Good Ole U S of A

The Gallup Organization just released the results of a poll of 500,000 people worldwide. It turns out that America is the first choice destination for 138 million adult would-be immigrants. (Their children would no doubt add scores of millions more, bringing the total up to around, say, 200,000,000.)

And America Jr. (i.e., Canada) is the first choice of 37 million adults, and America's nephew Australia is the first choice of 26 million.

Most of those would likely go to America instead if they could get in.

    About 13% of the world's adults -- or about 630 million people -- say they would like to leave their country and move somewhere else permanently. For roughly 138 million people, that somewhere else would be the U.S. -- the No. 1 desired destination for potential migrants.  Canada, France, and the U.K. also rank among some of the other top choices for potential migrants.

Recognising sovereignty?

This is sorta-off-topic, but RJ's rants got me to remembering where I've seen that sort of thing before. It was in a propaganda sheet put out by a local Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist group.

Many years ago, I worked in a hammer-shop, and the local commie faction of the above-mentioned beliefs-- it was on their letterhead on every pamphlet they handed out-- loudly declared how bad it was here, and how only giving them control would make things better for the working man. Problem was, most of the working men I knew weren't buying it because we could see how well it worked in countries that supposedly already had that system. They had to build walls to keep their own people in, it was that good. So, no sale.

RJHowie's rants look so much like those pamphlets that it could be almost word-for-word copy-paste. The only thing lacking is M/L/S letterheads and pictures of AK-47s on the front, along with Photo-shopped images of picketers. Otherwise--- it sure looks familiar somehow.

A 14-year-old North Carolina boy shot and killed one of two drug-craving home invaders who were attempting to break into his grandparents’ home to steal her prescription drugs.

    A teen is dead and his brother is charged after breaking into a home in southeast Mecklenburg County near Mint Hill on Tuesday, according to police.

    The incident happened at a home in the 8600 block of Rolling Fields Road, off of Whispering Falls Ave. near Fairview Rd.

    Police say they found and arrested 22-year-old Carlos Delcid on Tuesday night. His brother, 18-year-old Isai Robert Delcid, was shot by the resident’s grandson, according to police.

    “They heard some noises, saw an individual at the back of the residence trying to come into their house,” said Lt. Eric Brady of Charlotte Mecklenburg Police.

    Brady said when officers first arrived on the scene they found a man, later identified as Isai Delcid, dead at the back of the home.

    Police say the brothers were reportedly trying to break into the home when a 14-year-old, who was visiting his grandmother, shot Isai Delcid. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

Believe it or not, it was the third time that these same criminals targeted this home since September.

The older brother, Carlos Delcid, had been arrested for breaking into the home in September and October and was out on probation. He was quickly picked up after the crime because he was being electronically monitored with a tracking device as part of his probation.

The Charlotte Observer notes that the teen’s grandfather had wisely trained him to use firearms in self defense, and left the gun where he and his grandmother could access it for protection after the previous break-ins.

The teen gave these idiotic criminals every chance to flee. When Isai Delcid responded by forcing his way through the window, the teen fired his grandfather’s .380-caliber Glock 42 as Delcid came through the window, and struck him with at least one fatal shot.......

* Guns used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year -- or about 6,850 times a day. [1] This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives. [2]

* Of the 2.5 million times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, the overwhelming majority merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8% of the time, a citizen will kill or wound his/her attacker.[3]

* As many as 200,000 women use a gun every year to defend themselves against sexual abuse.[4]

* Even anti-gun Clinton researchers concede that guns are used 1.5 million times annually for self-defense. According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are as many as 1.5 million cases of self-defense every year. The National Institute of Justice published this figure in 1997 as part of "Guns in America" -- a study which was authored by noted anti-gun criminologists Philip Cook and Jens Ludwig.[5]

* Armed citizens kill more crooks than do the police. Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as police do every year (1,527 to 606).[6] And readers of Newsweek learned that "only 2 percent of civilian shootings involved an innocent person mistakenly identified as a criminal. The 'error rate' for the police, however, was 11 percent, more than five times as high."[7]

* Handguns are the weapon of choice for self-defense. Citizens use handguns to protect themselves over 1.9 million times a year. [8] Many of these self-defense handguns could be labeled as "Saturday Night Specials."

I have been a member of one of my country's leading parties and been a candidate for them and something more anti-Red pone couldn't imagine!

I have been a member of one of my country's leading parties and been a candidate for them […]

* As many as 200,000 women use a gun every year to defend themselves against sexual abuse.

* Even anti-gun Clinton researchers concede that guns are used 1.5 million times annually for self-defense. According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are as many as 1.5 million cases of self-defense every year. The National Institute of Justice published this figure in 1997 as part of "Guns in America" -- a study which was authored by noted anti-gun criminologists Philip Cook and Jens Ludwig.

The safety experts would be thrilled if we could get the carnage on our nation's highways down to that level. We had nearly 33,000 people die in traffic accidents in 2013-- down from just over 33,000 the year previously. Of course that means we should get rid of all motor vehicles since it's obvious we're good at killing each other with cars and trucks. Ban them at once. Don't let the sun go down and there's still a functional auto anywhere in the US.

Again, I'll halve the numbers. Lets say the anti-gun criminologists exaggerated a bit, lets say that Defensive Gun Use was only experienced by 750,000 honest, law abiding citizens.

This is a fallacy as well. The Clinton advisers were all liars, so assign a "corrected" value......

This is a fallacy as well. The Clinton advisers were all liars, so assign a "corrected" value. The phenomenon was also observed in conservative sites trying to "correct" the polling data that showed Romney was likely to lose. To get a real value, you would need to look the methodology and compare other data. Also it assumes that the ones defending themselves were all law abiding citizens. I don't have time to look up the data now, but a complain against "Stand Your Ground" was there was at least a drug dealer successfully using that law against charges of shooting another. To get the real picture requires a lot of digging.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMO_Hi-uA-s

Man's best friend apparently was feeling a little less friendly this weekend, according to police in Highlands County, Fla.

Highlands Today reports that Gregory Dale Lanier, 35, was shot by his dog while traveling in his truck Sunday.

According Highlands Today, Lanier told authorities that he didn't realize his .380 pistol was loaded, until his dog kicked the weapon, firing a round into Lanier's leg. "Lanier said he heard boom, saw smoke and felt a burning in his leg," Sebring Police Commander Steve Carr explained.

Police have ruled the shooting accidental and did not detain the dog for questioning.