Where debating everything under the sun is only the beginning

So blaming today just a few people of the Bush administration comes handy -  hypocrisy at its best.
I assume you aren't such naive to believe that the USA is a banana republic where foreign policy and long-term geostrategic interests are changing with each President. 

What matters is to reach a form of consensus rather than just pushing through with your original vision. Old Bush and Clinton were capable of it. Consensus goes two ways. One is to make concessions, the other is to convince your partners to do so (PR/propaganda). If I understand you correctly you're saying that the Old Bush and Clinton administrations were just putting on a better show, but the show has consequences beyond European perception of the US.

Even if there's some truth to it, long term that's not pragmatism but stupidity. You want to extend your empire by having others join or comply willingly, not through force. Otherwise you'll reap what you sow.

Europe is fine for holidays and been there three times

Has EuroDisney become the only part of Europe that the rest of the world takes seriously…?

If Trump wins, it's quite possible that Europe will need to fend for itself.

If Clinton wins, it's quite possible that Europe will have just another European country to contend with…

No. You will reap what you sow either way.

In 2000, Haider's Freedom Party unexpectedly won the 1999 parliamentary elections. After efforts by the runner-up, the ÖVP, to renew its coalition with the Social Democrats failed, the ÖVP reached an agreement with the FPÖ. Normally, Haider should have become chancellor. However, since he was deemed too controversial to be part of the government, let alone head it, he stepped aside in favour of ÖVP leader Wolfgang Schüssel.

The heads of government of the other fourteen EU members decided to cease cooperation with the Austrian government, as it was felt in many countries that the cordon sanitaire against coalitions with parties considered as right-wing extremists, which had mostly held in Western Europe since 1945, had been breached. For several months, other national leaders shunned diplomatic contacts with members of the Schüssel government. Supporters of the government often blamed social democrats and President Thomas Klestil for these sanctions, and questioned their loyalty to the country.

At the end of February 2000, Haider stepped down from the leadership of the Freedom Party. This was widely regarded as a cynical move to appease foreign criticism, as he appeared to continue to control the party from behind the scenes, with his successor, Susanne Riess-Passer, being only pro-forma in charge. Haider proclaimed that his move was just the fulfillment of his promise to Carinthian FPÖ voters he gave prior to the election that had been held in the same year.[18] Following analysis of the diplomatic sanctions, EU leaders came to believe that the measures were counterproductive and returned to normality in September 2000, even though the coalition remained unchanged.

I was born last century, so I remember stuff like this.

Krake thinks that force doesn't exist. He thinks pulling the rug, isolation, sanctions etc. are "advice".

Krake is a complex character, he simultaneously supports and fights the same things.
The finished example of post modern Germans. They have a past and a future, they deny the past but work hard for building the exact  same future.

The funny thing is that if Haider were the Austrian prime minister, Estonians would be considered as untermenshen by them.

They have a past and a future,

Krake thinks that...

Krake thinks that force doesn't exist. He thinks pulling the rug, isolation, sanctions etc. are "advice".

Namely, for the earth orbiting the moon.

But, of course, the earth does orbit the moon

the earth orbiting the moon.

George Santayana... Who's that?