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Reply #625 –
Quote from: krake on
Military putsch in Turkey.
That little half-assed attempt is already over. That country should never be considered Europe.



The Nice attack was immediately branded jihadist terrorism by the President and Prime Minister of France, with a call to increase the war efforts in Syria, but it actually looks like doings of a lone frustrated Tunisian. A single vehicle can do such horrific damage. Is it written somewhere how fast he was driving? Likely slow.

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Reply #626 –
Quote from: ersi on
That little half-assed attempt is already over.
Interesting is the timing of the attempted putsch - quite after Erdogan was seeking to normalize relations with Russia , Israel and Syria (Assad).

Quote from: ersi on
The Nice attack was immediately branded jihadist terrorism by the President and Prime Minister of France, with a call to increase the war efforts in Syria, but it actually looks like doings of a lone frustrated Tunisian.
It's more convenient to blame jihadists than to adress the social bomb which the poor banlieues are...
As for the war efforts in Syria, like the military interventions in Libya or Mali, they are all disguised (self-made war on terror by destabilizing entire regions) attemts to secure natural ressources. Only problem of Hollande, France can hardly afford such military adventures in the long term.

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Reply #627 –
You are very right there ersi about Turkey. The place is a mess.

A country where a broadcasting station can be shut down and journalists jailed a newspaper taken over by the government for them all being anti-President?? What that same government has been doing to one group of people in the country too is a disgrace and killing innocent people inside the place.
"Quit you like men:be strong"

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Reply #628 –
We're living decisive times, the Nice attack and the Turkish attempt of coup d'etat are more related than what people can think. Both are pieces of the process that will lead to the finish of our freedoms.

Thousands of opinion makers are already writing that we should think if it is possible to maintain our freedoms while facing the current menaces and that's obviously the first step in the way for totalitarian regimes all over Europe. For our safety, as usual, and with no option for rebellion - Nice and Turkey, both sides of the same coin.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #629 –
Depends on each country and we have already taken a step to protect ours.......
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Reply #630 –
Swedish authorities are totally enthusiastic about adding American borderguards to Sweden's main international airport to check up on people boarding American flights. Of course the borderguards would be armed and they would have the right to exercise their American rights on Swedish soil.

http://www.swedavia.se/arlanda/om-stockholm-arlanda-airport/om-flygplatsen/preclearance/

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Reply #631 –
Quote from: ersi on
Swedish authorities are totally enthusiastic about adding American borderguards to Sweden's main international airport to check up on people boarding American flights. Of course the borderguards would be armed and they would have the right to exercise their American rights on Swedish soil.
Do the American borderguards speak Swedish or the air passenger has to speak English?

:) BTW - how the begin of a conversation between a DND vet and an American borderguard could sound like:
Borderguard: "What's the reason for your flight to the USA, sir?"
DND veteran: "Just a visit to the ex-colonies over the pond to convince myself how miserable they perform, sir.

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Reply #632 –
Quote from: ersi on
Of course the borderguards would be armed and they would have the right to exercise their American rights on Swedish soil.
Did you read the link Ersi posted? "The objective of having a US border entry checkpoint at Stockholm Arlanda is to make travel easier for passengers."
Now you know that you travel easier if subjecting to American guards.

Then a description of the process follows. The general idea is to explain that being stopped and interrogated by guards it's an experience even better than sex that you should be thankful for.

Are the Swedish on LSD?? This is really worrying.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #633 –
American border guards in Sweden?  Active demonstration at being poodles!
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Reply #634 –
Never, ever trust the Swedish. What a bunch of idiots.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #635 –
When you consider the numbers getting into th ex-colonies from Me-he-co I wouldn't depend on them as guards.
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Reply #636 –
Quote from: rjhowie on
we have already taken a step to protect ours.......
The only thing you've done so far is to finish with your freedoms inside the European Union.

Now on, you'll get in the queue together with the Burundi citizens to show your passport. In case you have an entry Visa of course.
And don't speak too loud, we don't accept such behavior to the third world people.

I really like this Brexit.

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Reply #637 –
Quote from: Belfrager on
Quote from: rjhowie on
we have already taken a step to protect ours.......
The only thing you've done so far is to finish with your freedoms inside the European Union.

Now on, you'll get in the queue together with the Burundi citizens to show your passport. In case you have an entry Visa of course.
And don't speak too loud, we don't accept such behavior to the third world people.

I really like this Brexit.


Would you consider them 3rd world before or after Scotland and N. Ireland leave the UK? :D
 

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Reply #638 –
Quote from: ersi on
Swedish authorities are totally enthusiastic about adding American borderguards to Sweden's main international airport to check up on people boarding American flights. Of course the borderguards would be armed and they would have the right to exercise their American rights on Swedish soil.

Old news, I posted this aaaages ago. Not only America, hopefully Arlanda will eventually be a Chinese outpost as well, though that is a work in progress: Now Stockholm Arlanda Airport will be more like China

There is a rivalry between Stockholm Arlanda, Oslo Gardermoen, Copenhagen Kastrup, and Helsinki Vantaa airports to catch the Transatlantic and Eurasian traffic. The Nordic countries are in the periphery of Europe, but through the magic of spherical geometry closer to both Northeast America and Northeast Asia. The shortest route from Mumbai, India to New York, USA is through Helsinki, Finland. 

Hopefully in time the Nordic countries will be a little bit of America, a little bit of China/Korea/Japan, and with a whiff of India. 

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Reply #639 –
Quote from: jax on
Quote from: ersi on
Swedish authorities are totally enthusiastic about adding American borderguards to Sweden's main international airport to check up on people boarding American flights. Of course the borderguards would be armed and they would have the right to exercise their American rights on Swedish soil.

Old news, I posted this aaaages ago. Not only America, hopefully Arlanda will eventually be a Chinese outpost as well, though that is a work in progress: Now Stockholm Arlanda Airport will be more like China
Yes, this is ages-old news, reoccurring every other year or so, to prepare the population for what the masterminds have masterminded. Also ages-old is your attitude that it's all totally positive and best for the people. It isn't. The heads of govts will negotiate deals over the heads of the people. The deals will be skewed and asymmetric. Some common concepts will be reinterpreted to suit certain big players. For example, when introducing visa freedom between EU and US, visa freedom came to mean a sort of visa (a background check, a fee, an application for a term-limited permit to cross the border) for EU citizens who enter the US, while it means perfectly ordinary visa freedom (no fee, no application) for the citizens of the US. And in the process, biometric passport became a requirement to the EU citizens, but not to US citizens. See where this is going?

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Reply #640 –
The US passports are biometric. That the US and other governments and private companies keep their people under surveillance is an orthogonal issue.

I have no problem with the US or China getting a little piece of Sweden, that is not so different from an embassy. Neither do I have any problems with my new homeland becoming a global country.

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Reply #641 –
Quote from: jax on
The US passports are biometric.
New passports are. Old passports were not, and the EU did not require new passports at the time of signing the deal, while the US required new passports from EU citizens (maybe not of the "old" EU countries, but I very well know the specific terms between my own country and the US).

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That the US and other governments and private companies keep their people under surveillance is an orthogonal issue.
You are right if you are talking about govts and companies keeping their own people (i.e. people within their own jurisdiction) under surveillance. But I am talking about a country/company obtaining authority over people in another jurisdiction asymmetrically, i.e. there is no mutuality or no return value to it, the benefits and powers are all skewed towards one centre.

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I have no problem with the US or China getting a little piece of Sweden, that is not so different from an embassy. Neither do I have any problems with my new homeland becoming a global country.
How about your local govt powers being eroded and your country becoming a puppet, a province or a colony? Enlighten me, link to a plan to introduce Swedish border guards at JFK or EWR.

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Reply #642 –
Quote from: ersi on
How about your local govt powers being eroded and your country becoming a puppet, a province or a colony? Enlighten me, link to a plan to introduce Swedish border guards at JFK or EWR.
If a European government wanted their own border guards at Mccarran International Airport I don't see much of a problem with that. In fact, they'll be better at checking a citizen of that country's credentials than an American guard and maybe even less likely to falsely detain him. Further, it would eliminate language misunderstandings between the traveler and guards.
“What kind of man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.”
― Terry Pratchett, Going Postal

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Reply #643 –
You all submit to the New Order.
Clowns and traitors to the human race.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #645 –
Priests are beheaded inside churches in France while the idiots of this world discusses sociological and pseudo political hallucinations to cover their cowardliness.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #646 –
Quote from: Belfrager on
Priests are beheaded inside churches in France
How many? I must have missed that since I know only about one.

Quote from: Belfrager on
while the idiots of this world discusses sociological and pseudo political hallucinations to cover their cowardliness.
You are perfectly right sir.
Let's bomb Iraq, let's bomb Afghanistan, let's bomb Libya, let's bomb Syria, let's bomb everything that doesn't meet our high moral and ethic standards.

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Reply #647 –
Quote from: krake on
How many? I must have missed that since I know only about one.

Quote from: krake on
You are perfectly right sir.
Let's bomb Iraq, let's bomb Afghanistan, let's bomb Libya, let's bomb Syria, let's bomb everything that doesn't meet our high moral and ethic standards.
Your time will come. You'll be just another coward beheaded.
What an idiot.


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Reply #648 –
So what do you propose?

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Reply #649 –
Don't think that poor French priest so dastardly done in was not decapitated Belfrager. Stabbed and throat cut by those dastardly Islamist nut jobs. A damn shame and everywhere Islam goes the columns of killers come too.
"Quit you like men:be strong"