Re: Tripe about Ukraine
Reply #317 –
You have a real nerve there Smileyfaze terror supporter. You have long outdone Russia in both the USSR and the more modern and wider Russia today when it come to such organisations. The CIA is high in the stakes of undermining, creating coups and murderous stuff so need no lessons from you.
As for the weird Mussolini stuff there is a backhanded compliment in that if we want to muse. That is that Musslonit produced a better Italy than the shambles before him and since. Benito wasn't interested in expanding his dogma overt the world like some we can think of either!
The base takeovers in Crimea is an interesting matter. Crimea is back where it wants to be and the Ujrainian military should have been gone or made preparations to be so. They weren't and the commanders locally were given NO orders from Kiev and a Colonel has already stated that in a television interview. He did seem rather demoralised by it all. The shotting was obviouls skywards as a kind of warning just in case and in the whole incident only one person injured. Contrasts completely from the criminals in Kiev that we the West supported. Ignoring the fact that it was obviously a terror lot that did the shooting in the square and not the unarmed police.
Because the Referendum was in a majority Russian area we have moaned about it being illegal because the illegal government in Kiev says so! How ridiculous is that one? It was the Crimea parliament which voted to have it but that is warped into being illegal and the Kiev illegality by a rump as legal. you couldn't make this up. Trouble is that if the West led by DC thinks it has the sole right to declare on rights, sovereignty and such and no-one else and will even find ways of bending UN resolutions or even ignoring them. Had Crimea been in a different corner and tremendously US-lined Obama and that dumbell, Kerry would haave been clapping their hands.
Europe is not completely united and Germany does have less than publicconcerns (understandably). Our politicians have been lying and the media fed the lies. Their is no balanced reporting and how many news stations carried that revealing telephone chat between the Estonian Foreign Minster and the op EEC woman a Baroness from GB?? It is also ok for the USA to send a warship to paddle about the Black Sea to "look after US interests." Funny that word 'interests' comes up in every war it starts. Anyone else claiming that word is somehow automatically in error. Now the smugs in the West are yakking on about the effect on Russia and getting at not using Russian oil (small wonder the Germans are worried the amount they use) but in hard terms oiol makes up for only 15% of it's economy unlike a decade ago so Western liars are deliberately working out of date.
Now more and more concern is erupting in eastern Ukraine NOT because of Russia/Putin but the Kiev rump that is making things awkward for them. They supported the previous democratic elected and fair situation and now dictated too by that rump which is heavily infiltrated by neo-Nazis and not very mice people at all. Kiev is making Ukraine destbilised and much of the industry and commerce is in the east so must have a death wish. Demands are being made for local referendums but they have no leadership or situation like Crimea. So if the western Ukraine aided by it;s Nazis wants to be in Europe and the east of the country where the industry is how is that overcome. One other tjhing that is certain is that the gradual rise of far rightists in Europe will be greatly helped by the illegal fiasco in Kiev.
Crimea is fortunate in getting out before things fall apart and the West has to huff and bluff having helped the Ukrainian disaster.